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Re: Bill Nye is about to Destroy Creationist Ken Ham- Live Link
« Reply #250 on: February 10, 2014, 06:37:57 PM »
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Re: Bill Nye is about to Destroy Creationist Ken Ham- Live Link
« Reply #251 on: February 10, 2014, 06:40:16 PM »
I missed the debate!  :(

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not an actual quote, stupid argument regardless
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Re: Bill Nye is about to Destroy Creationist Ken Ham- Live Link
« Reply #252 on: February 10, 2014, 06:49:37 PM »
El Numero Moron posting fake quotes I see.

Is that what its come to?

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Re: Bill Nye is about to Destroy Creationist Ken Ham- Live Link
« Reply #253 on: February 10, 2014, 06:50:10 PM »
El Numero Moron posting fake quotes I see.

Is that what its come to?

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Re: Bill Nye is about to Destroy Creationist Ken Ham- Live Link
« Reply #254 on: February 10, 2014, 06:51:40 PM »
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Re: Bill Nye is about to Destroy Creationist Ken Ham- Live Link
« Reply #255 on: February 10, 2014, 06:53:00 PM »
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« Reply #256 on: February 10, 2014, 06:55:16 PM »
:D
well lol to be fair, water was there way before temperatures were systemacaly established,lol.
this quote has got to be fake ;D
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« Reply #257 on: February 10, 2014, 06:56:08 PM »
haha lol those fake quotes are hilarious, post some more ;D
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« Reply #258 on: February 10, 2014, 07:02:05 PM »
haha lol those fake quotes are hilarious, post some more ;D

They are too funny  :D

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« Reply #259 on: February 10, 2014, 07:08:15 PM »
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« Reply #260 on: February 10, 2014, 07:39:04 PM »

First, in defiance of one of the most elementary principles of logic, the atheist suggests that “something” (e.g., the Universe) came from “nothing;” that zero plus zero equals something greater than zero.

Victor Stenger, an atheistic professor at the University of Hawaii, admits that “everyday experience and common sense” supports the concept that something cannot come from nothing. Nevertheless, he suggests that “common sense is often wrong, and our normal experiences are but a tiny fraction of reality” (26-27). If you want to be an atheist, you must put your “common sense” on the shelf!

Second, atheists contend that the entire Universe, estimated to be 20 billion light years across (the distance light could travel in 20 billion years at the rate of 186,000 miles per second) accidentally derived from a submicroscopic particle of matter. As one writer expresses it: “Astonishingly, scientists now calculate that everything in this vast universe grew out of a region many billions of times smaller than a single proton, one of the atom’s basic particles” (Gore, 705). This is totally nonsensical.

Then consider this fact. Atheism contends that the marvelously ordered Universe, designated as Cosmos by the Greeks because of its intricate design, is merely the result of an ancient explosion (the Big Bang). Does a contractor pile lumber, brick, wire, pipe, etc., on a building site, blast it with dynamite, and expect a fine dwelling to result? Is that the way atheists build their houses? To so argue is to reveal a truly “senseless heart” (cf. Rom. 1:21).

LOL do you Nutters even listen to yourselves.  Mocking atheists who suggest something came from nothing when that's exactly what God botherers say about God.  You ask them where God came from and he miraculously just came from nothing, or they suggest the even more ridiculous, God is eternal.  Just is, therefore never created, never to be destroyed.

And you offer a straw man argument, you misrepresent the atheists argument, he doesn't suggest that nothing came from nothing, he suggests that the Universe came from an infinitely dense singularity.  

On the quantum level, matter appearing from nothing is exactly what happens.  And since we know the Universe was once incredibly small, matter appearing from noting doesn't violate the LAWS of NATURE !!!

Also, "The laws of physics demand something called negative energy, To get your head around this crude but crucial concept, let me draw an analogy. Imagine a man wants to build a hill on a flat part of land.  The hill will represent the Universe.  To make this hill, he digs a hole in the ground, and uses that soil to build the hill.  But he isn't only making a hill, he is also making a hole. In effect a negative version of the hill.  The stuff that was in the hole has know become the hill.  So it all balances out.  This is the principle behind what happened right at the beginning of the Universe.  When the Big Bang produced a vast amount of positive energy, it simultaneously produced the same amount of negative energy.  In this way the positive and the negative all add up to ZERO.  Always!.  It's another law of nature.  So where is all this negative energy today? It's in space.  According to the laws of nature concerning gravity and motion, space itself is a vast store of negative energy, enough to ensure that everything adds up to zero.  So this means if the Universe adds up to nothing, you don't need a God to create it.  The Ultimate free lunch."
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Re: Bill Nye is about to Destroy Creationist Ken Ham- Live Link
« Reply #261 on: February 10, 2014, 11:59:49 PM »
LOL do you Nutters even listen to yourselves.  Mocking atheists who suggest something came from nothing when that's exactly what God botherers say about God.  You ask them where God came from and he miraculously just came from nothing, or they suggest the even more ridiculous, God is eternal.  Just is, therefore never created, never to be destroyed.

And you offer a straw man argument, you misrepresent the atheists argument, he doesn't suggest that nothing came from nothing, he suggests that the Universe came from an infinitely dense singularity.  

On the quantum level, matter appearing from nothing is exactly what happens.  And since we know the Universe was once incredibly small, matter appearing from noting doesn't violate the LAWS of NATURE !!!

Also, "The laws of physics demand something called negative energy, To get your head around this crude but crucial concept, let me draw an analogy. Imagine a man wants to build a hill on a flat part of land.  The hill will represent the Universe.  To make this hill, he digs a hole in the ground, and uses that soil to build the hill.  But he isn't only making a hill, he is also making a hole. In effect a negative version of the hill.  The stuff that was in the hole has know become the hill.  So it all balances out.  This is the principle behind what happened right at the beginning of the Universe.  When the Big Bang produced a vast amount of positive energy, it simultaneously produced the same amount of negative energy.  In this way the positive and the negative all add up to ZERO.  Always!.  It's another law of nature.  So where is all this negative energy today? It's in space.  According to the laws of nature concerning gravity and motion, space itself is a vast store of negative energy, enough to ensure that everything adds up to zero.  So this means if the Universe adds up to nothing, you don't need a God to create it.  The Ultimate free lunch."

You are trying to use logic with people that thinks that the flintstones was a documentury. You will fail.

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Re: Bill Nye is about to Destroy Creationist Ken Ham- Live Link
« Reply #262 on: February 11, 2014, 12:23:48 AM »
You are trying to use logic with people that thinks that the flintstones was a documentury. You will fail.

Not the most eloquent, but true all the same.