Excellent film/documentary: Battle for Gold, the 1988 Mr Olympia

[crownshep]

There`s a difference between short and SHORT,in other words bouncing off the chest and pressing up for 4-5 inches is doing nothing for the pecs,but going up three quarters of the way in a controlled fashion is great for the pecs,thats really keeping the tension on the pecs.I`ve used a shorter movement on preacher curls the last few years and my biceps have improved a lot,even at my age.

[Montague]

Yes sir, we need to experiment and nod be afraid to stick with something we feel the right way instead of following the crowd.

I've got to hand it to you, Sev: you're a smart guy. I joined the board during your wars with Donkey Kong and thought you two were just a couple of trolling gimmicks. Donkey surprised me with his contributions on the Nutrition board, and you've surprised me with many of your recent posts on training and nutrition. You also consistently back up what you post with photographic proof.

Mad props to you, brother!

[Cleanest Natural]

I've got to hand it to you, Sev: you're a smart guy. I joind the board during your wars with Donkey Kong and thought you two were just a couple of trolling gimmicks. Donkey surprised me with his contributions on the Nutrition board, and you've surprised me with many of your recent posts on training and nutrition. You also consistently back up what you post with photographic proof.

Mad props to you, brother!

haha yes I remeber Donkey. What happened to him I wonder? I am here to share and learn and believe that we can all benefit from doing the same. Ego needs to be put aside if we want to advance in knowledge.

[The Scott]

haha yes I remeber Donkey. What happened to him I wonder? I am here to share and learn and believe that we can all benefit from doing the same. Ego needs to be put aside if we want to advance in knowledge.

I think I've seen your photograph here...The gentleman that resembles Jason Statham?  If so, a very good physique you have there.  One that I am certain women appreciate!  Good job.

[MCWAY]

I thought he came of as an arrogant twat!  Thinking his shit didn't stink and constantly belittling his opponents.

It sounds as if he's just trash-talking with his competitors. Compared to Arnold, Lee Haney is a novice, when it comes to ribbing his opponents.

Besides, I don't know of any champion who didn't think he was THE MAN and that their opponents (while good in their own right) weren't quite up to their level.

You have Samir Bannout here claiming that he "allowed" Lee Haney to win the 1984 Olympia. If that's not arrogant, what is?

[Montague]

haha yes I remeber Donkey. What happened to him I wonder? I am here to share and learn and believe that we can all benefit from doing the same. Ego needs to be put aside if we want to advance in knowledge.

I agree. We can have constructive discussion here.

As for Kong, the last I know, he married some woman and lives in Japan.

[a_pupil]

How come those guys used less gear than current pros but looked better  .

Was it the high volume + high frequency training?

[Nails]

Tom Platz has the voice of an angel

[MCWAY]

moron vic richards not competing but doing all the work for it

He wasn't a pro. Platz talked about a gym body vs. a stage body. I think the former best described Richards.

Besides, who wants to see him smash another trophy after he loses to a smaller but better-conditioned guy (i.e. when he lost a local amateur show to  Gaspari)?

[Montague]

He wasn't a pro. Platz talked about a gym body vs. a stage body. I think the former best described Richards.

Besides, who wants to see him smash another trophy after he loses to a smaller but better-conditioned guy (i.e. when he lost a local amateur show to  Gaspari)?

Where have you been hiding, brother!

How is your family?

[MCWAY]

Damn, Strydom was in great condition with a teeny waste.

Indeed. But both look a bit lanky compared to their WBF days (particularly in 1991).

[MCWAY]

Where have you been hiding, brother!

How is your family?

I wouldn't say I've been hiding. The family is quite well. I got a new job last year; so we packed it up and moved to the Midwest.

[njflex]

Indeed. But both look a bit lanky compared to their WBF days (particularly in 1991).

strydom over killed that yr he was shredded but much smaller,his chest and delts looked wrapped lean,but his weak back was even weaker by the down size he was,his legs were sick sliced,but he made up for it shocked people at wbf shows he looked awesome.

[SF1900]

Take a look at how Sergio and Serge trained chest. Both are from the old school.Both had huge chests. Both from different areas, and both didn't use full ROM.

[/youtube]

Parker, there are EXCEPTIONS to everything. On AVERAGE, guys back then used a greater range of motion compared to the guys now.

Its funny the way it works out:

1970s: Less drugs, better diets, more hard work, good builds and more full ROM
2014: MORE drugs, less hard work, shittier diets, shittier builds and less full ROM

[Montague]

I wouldn't say I've been hiding. The family is quite well. I got a new job last year; so we packed it up and moved to the Midwest.

Congratulations!!

[FitnessFrenzy]

Samir talks about wanting to compete at 208 pounds. Philsuline would still look good at this weight without GH and Slin. It is a shame what bodybuilding has become.

[Montague]

Parker, there are EXCEPTIONS to everything. On AVERAGE, guys back then used a greater range of motion compared to the guys now.

Its funny the way it works out:

1970s: Less drugs, better diets, more hard work, good builds and more full ROM
2014: MORE drugs, less hard work, shittier diets, shittier builds and less full ROM

That wasn't the case for everyone, though. Larry Scott developed some impressive delts for his frame using a db press that only moved through about the middle 3/5 of the ROM, as he described. This movement was documented on video with he and Francis Benfatto demonstrating.

Scott also used similar ROM on neck presses.