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Do you still get sore
« on: May 07, 2014, 03:28:51 PM »
The reason why a lot of people are no longer making progress is they do the same kind of workout and the body adapt and no longer gets sore, every now and then you need to incorporate giant sets, drop sets, pre exhaustion etc to shock the muscles and keep them growing.

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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2014, 03:32:22 PM »
Ive always wondered if its necessary to get sore to adapt. My own experience with cycle racing and weight training is that i see the biggest improvements in speed or strength right after doing different routines, with the accompanying soreness. Not necessarily extreme soreness, but i sure feel it the next few days after.

 So maybe yes?

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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2014, 03:41:42 PM »
I only get soreness for days after a workout when I've taken a week or longer off.

And I have noticed that my gains plateau when I only get a short-term workout pump.

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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2014, 03:45:13 PM »
I only get soreness for days after a workout when I've taken a week or longer off.

And I have noticed that my gains plateau when I only get a short-term workout pump.

I am not a fan of the new pump craze I see a lot of people doing endless sets of light weights saying they are trying to get pump and vascular but they always look the same.

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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2014, 03:47:04 PM »
I am not a fan of the new pump craze I see a lot of people doing endless sets of light weights saying they are trying to get pump and vascular but they always look the same.
I've tried the 20-30 rep range. Only gets you sore if you force so hard on the last 3 reps that your muscles lock out. And the next day they feel normal again. No growth, just a bit more tightness of the skin around the muscle.

Going heavy for 4-8 reps gets a better pump, but if you're not getting the pump from it by angling it just the right way when you squeeze, it won't work either. Natural sucks sometimes.

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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2014, 03:56:47 PM »
I've tried the 20-30 rep range. Only gets you sore if you force so hard on the last 3 reps that your muscles lock out. And the next day they feel normal again. No growth, just a bit more tightness of the skin around the muscle.

Going heavy for 4-8 reps gets a better pump, but if you're not getting the pump from it by angling it just the right way when you squeeze, it won't work either. Natural sucks sometimes.

If you are natural you should try the bsn nitrix take 6 tabs 1 hour before workout it will help you with the pump.

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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2014, 04:00:35 PM »
I've tried the 20-30 rep range. Only gets you sore if you force so hard on the last 3 reps that your muscles lock out. And the next day they feel normal again. No growth, just a bit more tightness of the skin around the muscle.

Going heavy for 4-8 reps gets a better pump, but if you're not getting the pump from it by angling it just the right way when you squeeze, it won't work either. Natural sucks sometimes.

My legs get much more sore when I do high reps (15-30), not low reps.

If I do one set of squats for 20-30 reps and milk it until I can no longer move the weight, I WILL be sore for the next 5-7 days.  The last 1-2 reps is a "life passing before my eyes" event.  This is extremely taxing and not many can muster this type of intensity, but it is one of the best ways to kick your leg growth into high gear.

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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2014, 04:01:50 PM »
My legs get much more sore when I do high reps (15-30), not low reps.

If I do one set of squats for 20-30 reps and milk it until I can no longer move the weight, I WILL be sore for the next 5-7 days.  The last 1-2 reps is a "life passing before my eyes" event.  This is extremely taxing and not many can muster this type of intensity, but it is one of the best ways to kick your leg growth into high gear.
Quads are different. Hamstrings and calves respond best with me using the 6-12 range.

But quads I can rarely get a pump with unless I do 15-20, or failure. They're just that kind of muscle, because of how much you use them in daily life. But once you get a pump in them, just squeezing them while standing can result in pure agony. They pump well. It's why they grow better than some other muscles like forearms or traps.

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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2014, 04:07:46 PM »
Quads are different. Hamstrings and calves respond best with me using the 6-12 range.

But quads I can rarely get a pump with unless I do 15-20, or failure. They're just that kind of muscle, because of how much you use them in daily life. But once you get a pump in them, just squeezing them while standing can result in pure agony. They pump well. It's why they grow better than some other muscles like forearms or traps.

I agree there is no reason to go below 15 reps when you are working quads.

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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2014, 04:08:55 PM »
Quads are different. Hamstrings and calves respond best with me using the 6-12 range.

But quads I can rarely get a pump with unless I do 15-20, or failure. They're just that kind of muscle, because of how much you use them in daily life. But once you get a pump in them, just squeezing them while standing can result in pure agony. They pump well. It's why they grow better than some other muscles like forearms or traps.

Anything above 10 reps and my legs pump up like balloons... less reps for my upper body.

I can do 20 sets of any upper body part and I rarely get sore... even if I change the routine all the time.  The only time I notice upper body soreness is after a layoff over 2 weeks.

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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2014, 06:06:50 PM »
I get sore all the time......some bodyparts get more sore than others as a rule.

If you never get sore anymore,the time to get out of your comfort zone is yesterday.

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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2014, 08:52:38 PM »
Legs always get sore

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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2014, 09:08:45 PM »
I get sore all the time......some bodyparts get more sore than others as a rule.

If you never get sore anymore,the time to get out of your comfort zone is yesterday.

That's cause u are 100 yrs old wes :D

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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2014, 09:14:29 PM »
I'm sore after every workout. But what's odd is it hurts more 48 hours after.

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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2014, 09:17:20 PM »
i still get sore after every workout,sometime 24hours later
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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2014, 03:43:28 PM »
As you get older the muscle soreness diminishes and the joint soreness increases.

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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2014, 03:52:58 PM »
As you get older the muscle soreness diminishes and the joint soreness increases.

That means its time to increase the reps and the intensity of each rep.

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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2014, 03:57:28 PM »
soreness means youve just got yourself back up to par

i can make any bodypart sore once a week thats because if i dont train it 6 days a week it slowly deconditions and on training day it always will get sore

soreness just meas youve got yourself back up to par, you didnt gain anything
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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2014, 07:34:34 PM »
The moment I don't feel any soreness or don't get a good pump, I just change the routine a little bit and do more or less reps. Works great .

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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2014, 07:36:31 PM »
I'm sore after every workout. But what's odd is it hurts more 48 hours after.
x2 to the after 48 hours gets worse.

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Re: Do you still get sore
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2014, 08:01:54 PM »
The reason why a lot of people are no longer making progress is they do the same kind of workout and the body adapt and no longer gets sore, every now and then you need to incorporate giant sets, drop sets, pre exhaustion etc to shock the muscles and keep them growing.

very good point..

i have never in my life planned what exercises to do before starting my workout.. i only plan what parts to train then i do the exercises i feel i like to do on that certain day which are not the same every time.. this makes the workout more interesting and makes the trained part sore every time.. even after nearly 20 years of lifting..