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D Day 6/6
« on: June 03, 2014, 01:32:25 PM »
Here are some photos in regards to the D Day Anniversary coming up on 6/6.

If you ever get a chance to tour Normandy, you should absolutely go.  Standing there on the beach and knowing what our troops faced coming ashore is a sobering experience.  Some tours will take you step by step along various routes the Allies followed from that day and through a bit of their onward push.  In some of those little cities and places along the way, very little has changed. Clean up has occurred but many of the buildings still carry scars of the battles. 

Particularly impressive is the cliffs that the troops had to ascend on those ladders.  Movies do not do it justice.  Hard enough under normal circumstances, but nearly impossible under fire.

http://life.time.com/history/wwii-before-and-after-d-day-color-photos-from-england-and-france-1944/#1

http://time.com/120751/robert-capa-dday-photos/

http://www.skylighters.org/photos/robertcapa.html

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Re: D Day 6/6
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2014, 05:57:10 PM »
When I was a kid there were still bunkers you could go in and walk around.  Not sure anymore as it's been so long.  But the GI's coming up from the beach, being completely exposed and having to take out that bunker where the Germans were so well protected is just amazing to think about.

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Re: D Day 6/6
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2014, 06:03:55 PM »
You're a goddam man if you can hit a beach....
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Re: D Day 6/6
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2014, 06:55:33 PM »
Second rate German troops, w/ poor equipment. Most Allied forces landed virtually unopposed. 100 German divisions were dedicated to the Eastern-front and only 27 to all other theaters. The English still complain that the war would have been over sooner if the Americans were willing to take casualties.

With the entrenched machine gun bunkers, pretty solid protection and open field of fire, that more than enough makes up for any troops or equipment shortcomings.

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Re: D Day 6/6
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2014, 07:08:04 PM »
They had plenty defending the beaches...lack of airpower and holding back German Armor including ss formations cost them. Hit a beach and test ur manhood.
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Re: D Day 6/6
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2014, 10:32:07 PM »
They had plenty defending the beaches...lack of airpower and holding back German Armor including ss formations cost them. Hit a beach and test ur manhood.

Evidently, waking Hitler up was more dangerous.  ;D

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Re: D Day 6/6
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2014, 10:32:19 PM »
Here are some photos in regards to the D Day Anniversary coming up on 6/6.

If you ever get a chance to tour Normandy, you should absolutely go.  Standing there on the beach and knowing what our troops faced coming ashore is a sobering experience.  Some tours will take you step by step along various routes the Allies followed from that day and through a bit of their onward push.  In some of those little cities and places along the way, very little has changed. Clean up has occurred but many of the buildings still carry scars of the battles. 

Particularly impressive is the cliffs that the troops had to ascend on those ladders.  Movies do not do it justice.  Hard enough under normal circumstances, but nearly impossible under fire.

http://life.time.com/history/wwii-before-and-after-d-day-color-photos-from-england-and-france-1944/#1

http://time.com/120751/robert-capa-dday-photos/

http://www.skylighters.org/photos/robertcapa.html

great post!

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Re: D Day 6/6
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2014, 05:14:10 PM »
Could you imagine the "holy shit" feeling you'd have? Both sides. Seeing that huge armada about to blast your ass, or being a GI about to hit the beach as a sitting duck in one of those amphib vehicles? Crazy shit.

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Re: D Day 6/6
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2014, 08:12:35 PM »
Second rate German troops, w/ poor equipment. Most Allied forces landed virtually unopposed. 100 German divisions were dedicated to the Eastern-front and only 27 to all other theaters. The English still complain that the war would have been over sooner if the Americans were willing to take casualties.


Germans actually had better weapons....their failure on D-Day was due to Hitler not listening to Rommel
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Re: D Day 6/6
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2014, 10:34:08 PM »

Germans actually had better weapons....their failure on D-Day was due to Hitler not listening to Rommel

Yeah and they were many polish conscripts too.   

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Re: D Day 6/6
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2014, 06:42:18 AM »
Yeah and they were many polish conscripts too.   


Rommel was one of the few generals you could respect.  Ignored all of Hitler's orders to torture and kill Jews and prisoners.....tried to have him arrested for war crimes in fact.  Committed suicide to save his family and soldiers
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Re: D Day 6/6
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2014, 07:35:26 AM »
WW II was over by June '44. Germany had been broken since at least the summer before with its defeat at the Battle of Kursk. It lacked the manpower to continue any sustained operations against what was now essentially the rest of the world. Stalin was already rolling west by this point and D-Day was necessary to ensure the US some of the post-war spoils. Had the US not landed in France, Russian tanks would have been pulling into Paris a year later. It makes Americans feel good to talk about D-Day but the Russians won WW II. The last time the US was involved in total war was the Civil War and even then it was only the south that was really impacted. Parts of the north were hardly effected.  
 

The largest theater by far was the eastern front for sure.  And it can be argued that the Russians won the war.   But they didn't do it alone.  with out America's involvement early on in the form of material help to both Britain and Russia along with keeping Japan from wanting to possibly expand its war, allowing Russia to move many divisions to the eastern front and also keeping 30 or so Germans divisions on the eastern front played a crucial role.  

What would have happened if Germany's momentum in 41-42 goes unchecked?  Thankfully, Hitler in some ways aided the allies with his dumb moves during the war also.   Such a indecision what to focus on in Russia, ( Moscow, then Stalingrad, then Moscow, etc.), impractical focus large expensive tanks, Dunkirk, etc

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Re: D Day 6/6
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2014, 07:36:38 AM »

Rommel was one of the few generals you could respect.  Ignored all of Hitler's orders to torture and kill Jews and prisoners.....tried to have him arrested for war crimes in fact.  Committed suicide to save his family and soldiers

Yeah Rommel was great.  A true battle general who unfortunately was implicated in an assassination attempt.