How do the guys like Romanowski get around the NFL's steroid testing?

[bmacsys]

I been looking at these guys for years, many who have huge arms and are cut and wondered are they all genetic marvels or do they somehow circumvent the NFL's steroid testing. I admit I know next to nothing about this subject but it makes me wonder.

[muscle19]

its probably goint o be the type of juice they use and how fast it can exit their system. or they just go unnoticed somehow and just never get tested. before all this steroid hype became big, they probably didint want that exposure, so why test and make the "nfl" look bad.


muscle

[coolioni]

I think some poitive tests never get talked about in pulic, the players may get a lecture instaed.
Have you noticed the star players never get caught ?
I have known several nfl players in the past, and they say that alot of guy's are on the juice.
I never asked too much about it, but I am sure plenty of the linemen and running backs use them!
Also, most of the kickers are juiced to the gills!!!!!!!!

[rufjunk]

Despite popular belief, there are only a few cases of gear use in the national football league. Most of the guys look big because they are carrying a lot of excess fat, they care more about playing weight than actual muscle mass.

Many of the offensive and defensive lineman do have incredible strength, that's why they are in the national football league, 800 pound bench presses, etc.

There are a few known users who have been caught, Todd Sauerbrun ( the one punter, the idiot above said all kickers are juiced to the gills) and David Boston.

All other steroids rumors are exactly that... rumors.

As for Romanowski, he took substances that weren't banned yet. Prohormones, etc. Once it was banned, he stopped taking it. You can read this in his book.

"If you continue to do the things that compromise your integrity then what are you? Morally, you get into a bind. What do you want? Is it quality of life? Do you want to feel good? It was a struggle that I had "


Please ignore the posts like the one above, this guy doesn't know what the heck he's talking about... it almost seems like he'd rather believe Steroid use is prevalent in other sports because it gives him vindication for using. It's much easier to take gear when we pretend everyone else is taking it too..

[DIVISION]

Alot of NFL players were using and still are.  It's ony a matter of circumventing the test.  The last designer steroid they were using was OKG I believe......not sure.  It was the one Romanowski was caught with.  That is the example, before that there were other undetectable steroids being used.

Even now, I'm sure many players use Halotestin, Methyltestosterone or Cheque drops before games, as the half-life is very short on those. 

Understand this, players will always use, just as sure as I have a fresh bottle of Tren just ready to be injected.

Don't believe the media, only believe what you think is realistic.

AAS are used.........right under your noses.




DIV

[bmacsys]

Despite popular belief, there are only a few cases of gear use in the national football league. Most of the guys look big because they are carrying a lot of excess fat, they care more about playing weight than actual muscle mass.

Many of the offensive and defensive lineman do have incredible strength, that's why they are in the national football league, 800 pound bench presses, etc.

There are a few known users who have been caught, Todd Sauerbrun ( the one punter, the idiot above said all kickers are juiced to the gills) and David Boston.

All other steroids rumors are exactly that... rumors.

As for Romanowski, he took substances that weren't banned yet. Prohormones, etc. Once it was banned, he stopped taking it. You can read this in his book.

"If you continue to do the things that compromise your integrity then what are you? Morally, you get into a bind. What do you want? Is it quality of life? Do you want to feel good? It was a struggle that I had "


Please ignore the posts like the one above, this guy doesn't know what the heck he's talking about... it almost seems like he'd rather believe Steroid use is prevalent in other sports because it gives him vindication for using. It's much easier to take gear when we pretend everyone else is taking it too..

I know the guy who posted above is clueless. When a guy tests positive they don't "reprimand" him and put him in "timeout". Also I am not talking about the fat 300+ pound offensive lineman who can only run 5 yards. I mean the jacked 250 pound plus linebackers and 285 pound defensive ends who have arms that look to be 18"+ and ripped.

[bmacsys]

Alot of NFL players were using and still are.  It's ony a matter of circumventing the test.  The last designer steroid they were using was OKG I believe......not sure.  It was the one Romanowski was caught with.  That is the example, before that there were other undetectable steroids being used.

Even now, I'm sure many players use Halotestin, Methyltestosterone or Cheque drops before games, as the half-life is very short on those. 

Understand this, players will always use, just as sure as I have a fresh bottle of Tren just ready to be injected.

Don't believe the media, only believe what you think is realistic.

AAS are used.........right under your noses.




DIV

I agree. Too many of these guys are just too big, too strong and too ripped.

[bmacsys]

Many of the offensive and defensive lineman do have incredible strength, that's why they are in the national football league, 800 pound bench presses, etc.

Ruff, nobody in the NFL is benching 800 pounds. Let alone naturally. I don't think any powerlifter even using a bench pressing shirt has ever benched 800. Nobody has a raw bench of that weight that I have ever heard.

[muscle19]

true that! i have not heard any nfl players benching that amount as well. again like saud before, more r juiced up than what we could imagine, i dont believe in steroids in sports (other than bb of course)


muscle

[BigIronMike25]

Alot of NFL players were using and still are.  It's ony a matter of circumventing the test.  The last designer steroid they were using was OKG I believe......not sure.  It was the one Romanowski was caught with.  That is the example, before that there were other undetectable steroids being used.

Even now, I'm sure many players use Halotestin, Methyltestosterone or Cheque drops before games, as the half-life is very short on those. 

Understand this, players will always use, just as sure as I have a fresh bottle of Tren just ready to be injected.

Don't believe the media, only believe what you think is realistic.

AAS are used.........right under your noses.




DIV

I AGREE DIV,  i played baseball at the collegiate level and guys were juicing like crazy just in college....drugs play a huge part in pro sports no matter what kind of testing scheme they have in place...i mean damn you are talkin about millions of dollars at stake, these guys are gonna use whatever edge they can and i say thats fine!

[DIVISION]

I AGREE DIV,  i played baseball at the collegiate level and guys were juicing like crazy just in college....drugs play a huge part in pro sports no matter what kind of testing scheme they have in place...i mean damn you are talkin about millions of dollars at stake, these guys are gonna use whatever edge they can and i say thats fine!

I agree.

I've found nothin' but money rules time and space, and in professional sports is where all the juicing takes place.




DIV

[BigIronMike25]

I agree.

I've found nothin' but money rules time and space, and in professional sports is where all the juicing takes place.




DIV

Well put, as always DIV!

[BigIronMike25]

I agree.

I've found nothin' but money rules time and space, and in professional sports is where all the juicing takes place.




DIV

My only regret is I never got on Juice while I was playin ball, damn it wouldve helped!!  but oh well, ya live ya learn!

[DIVISION]

My only regret is I never got on Juice while I was playin ball, damn it wouldve helped!!  but oh well, ya live ya learn!

Something tells me it was meant to be.  If you were meant to play you probably would have had access to AAS and would have found a way to use.  Even if you had used, that doesn't mean you'd have what it takes to play in MLB.  Alot of people top out at the college level and can't make it in the pros, AAS or not.




DIV

[BigIronMike25]

Something tells me it was meant to be.  If you were meant to play you probably would have had access to AAS and would have found a way to use.  Even if you had used, that doesn't mean you'd have what it takes to play in MLB.  Alot of people top out at the college level and can't make it in the pros, AAS or not.




DIV

Good insight Div and thanks for the reply....I had a couple workouts with some pro teams but after a torn rotator cuff just couldnt hack it anymore...couldnt freakin throw....but hey i aint bitter, "i rode the horse till she died"  and went with it as far as it took me....appreciate your expertise on these boards DIV!!!

[muscle19]

what pro teams did u have workouts with?


muscle

[rufjunk]

Ruff, nobody in the NFL is benching 800 pounds. Let alone naturally. I don't think any powerlifter even using a bench pressing shirt has ever benched 800. Nobody has a raw bench of that weight that I have ever heard.

I was speaking specifically of Larry Allen. He also doesn't bench press 800 pounds, its 700.

As for the guy that suggested I'm clueless, the majority of people who would use only do it because they can't compete at a competitive level. Ricky Williams was jacked beyond belief at 230+ pounds during his glory years and he never took steroids.

Remember this name... Hershel Walker. That guy had the best genetics of anyone I've ever seen and is by far one of the most jacked, we're talking a man amongst boys. Never touched a drug.. the guy also doesn't drink....

How about Jim Brown?

Jim Brown was the Ronnie Coleman of his era, he dwarfed 90% of the guys in the league. It's called genetics. You also have to remember that these players could give a shit-load less about muscle size, it all relates to performance on the field.

We can all point out guys and say.. "Hey he looks big, he's 250 pounds and he's a lean DE".. that doesn't mean he takes drugs. You wouldn't be at that level unless you were among the best genetically and had god given ability. It's also ridiculous how many people contributed to this thread and have no idea what they're talking about. Granted, I'm not in the national football league, I also know that there are some low-life college and highschool colleges that peddle drugs to their football players in the south, that doesn't mean most or even 20% of players in the NFL are caught with steroids.

Also.. The Carolina Panther scandal involving the doctor who prescriped illegal drugs for Todd Saurbrun (the punter "juiced" to the gills) had his license revoked and is facing jail time. The shit hit the fan and almost every player involved was traded. Louis Castillo tested positive during the NFL combine, he still was drafted in the first round, but he realized he couldnt' cheat the system and he wrote a hand written apology to each NFL team (32 of em').

Please don't believe all or most or even 15% of NFL players take gear. 20 inch biceps won't do shit for me if I'm a middle linebacker in a cover 2 system and my goal is to defend the deep third in the cover 3.

Also, Johnathon Vilma is another example of a genetic freak. How about Shawn Merriman? The guy is 21 and he's 270 pounds with less than 5% body fat. I honestly suspect Merriman has taken something, I have no idea if he has or hasn't, but the guy is a freak.. and just because Shawn Merriman is questionable, doesn't mean most players use gear or it's extremely prevalent.

[rufjunk]

I AGREE DIV,  i played baseball at the collegiate level and guys were juicing like crazy just in college....drugs play a huge part in pro sports no matter what kind of testing scheme they have in place...i mean damn you are talkin about millions of dollars at stake, these guys are gonna use whatever edge they can and i say thats fine!

You also have to remember that there's a difference between an illegal drug ring in collegiate sports and claiming "most guys juiced like crazy in college". That simply isn't the case.

I just don't want people who aren't informed about the topic reading this thread and thinking steroids are being used by most of their favorite players. Illegal drugs will probably always be a part of professional sports, but these players usually do and will get caught.. (hint: Romanowski).

We also can't ignore our relevance to the issue. Professional bodybuilders knowingly take gear because it's just the way the sport is, in the NFL and other sports it's banned. 3 positive tests and your banned for life in MLB, you'd have to be an idiot to think it was a mistake not to take gear in baseball.

[muscle19]

ur right! good post bro


muscle

[youngguns]

If you get a chance read the Romano interview with Romo in MD. Romo explains that He never toke anything that was tested for by the league. If the league started testing for a substance he quit taking it. We all know science is always ahead. he would move on to the latest undetectible. He never broke league policy but pushed the boundries.

[mart541]

My uncle was a trainer for the Cowboys in the 80s. Lets just say he knows his juice.

[BigIronMike25]

what pro teams did u have workouts with?
muscle

Muscle,
Hadda couple workouts with Baltimore and KC....no big deal...some pro scouts are fulla shit...they tell you what you wanna hear ya know

Ruf,

Sorry i didnt clarify... i meant it just seemed like everyone was juicing since so many on my team were.