hgh

[jb14972]

just started kefei blue tops Biotech from HK.

i got a large red lump at injection site, i was wondering if its poor quality gh or am i having a reaction to the bac water. i believe i had this issue once before but it stopped and i dont remember what i did to stop it.

3iu/d mixed 10iu with 1ml bac water

[whitewidow]

I heard it's shit somebody showed there bloddwork and it barely raised.

[Daydreamez]

just started kefei blue tops Biotech from HK.

i got a large red lump at injection site, i was wondering if its poor quality gh or am i having a reaction to the bac water. i believe i had this issue once before but it stopped and i dont remember what i did to stop it.

3iu/d mixed 10iu with 1ml bac water

Watch out for fakes!! many counterfeits regarding HGH ( specially blue-brown-yellow tops)

[pestosterone]

From what I've been reading lately unless u get pharmacy from somebody with a script u can go ahead and assume it's fake. Sucks because I would like to get some for my self but... to risky buying some BS

[whitewidow]

From what I've been reading lately unless u get pharmacy from somebody with a script u can go ahead and assume it's fake. Sucks because I would like to get some for my self but... to risky buying some BS

Yeah the Generic HGH is dead right now. I want some too but guys want 600-1,000$ for a kit of serostim going rate is 10$ a IU. I know one source who claims his HGH is just as good as serostim but I have not tried it yet. guys bloodwork is proving it but who knows who these guys really are. I might try one kit and see what happens its that new stuff sciroxx has out.

[mazfit]

Yeah the Generic HGH is dead right now. I want some too but guys want 600-1,000$ for a kit of serostim going rate is 10$ a IU. I know one source who claims his HGH is just as good as serostim but I have not tried it yet. guys bloodwork is proving it but who knows who these guys really are. I might try one kit and see what happens its that new stuff sciroxx has out.

Wrong, Generic is not dead. Generic in the USA is dead, im using Black tops and getting sides at 2ius, wanted to see what 7ius would do, i didnt even go to work today because my body was in so much pain and i couldnt get out of bed

GENERICS ARENT DEAD YOUR SOURCE IS JUST WACK

[Jizmo]

Wrong, Generic is not dead. Generic in the USA is dead, im using Black tops and getting sides at 2ius, wanted to see what 7ius would do, i didnt even go to work today because my body was in so much pain and i couldnt get out of bed

GENERICS ARENT DEAD YOUR SOURCE IS JUST WACK

how do you rate a dosage of 3-4 iu LEGIT gh (legit generics or pharm) for muscle building? is that enough ?
drastic difference in appearance?

i mean 4iu a day would cost about 200€ a month.
you could get 100g of test for that.
so you could run 25g of test a week for the price of 4iu GH a day, lol
ok 25g test would obviously do more for muscle building, but you get the point...

4iu legit GH worth it compared to the price of AAS?

[mazfit]

how do you rate a dosage of 3-4 iu LEGIT gh (legit generics or pharm) for muscle building? is that enough ?
drastic difference in appearance?

i mean 4iu a day would cost about 200€ a month.
you could get 100g of test for that.
so you could run 25g of test a week for the price of 4iu GH a day, lol
ok 25g test would obviously do more for muscle building, but you get the point...

4iu legit GH worth it compared to the price of AAS?

4-6ius of good quality hgh is enough for the first 6 months you then have to analyze it and move up bb is all about moving up doses slowly,

SORRY BUT ITS NOT ABOUT CHANGING DIET CHANGING TRAINING - they change in regards to contest prep only.


It depends on what level your at - for me personaly i feel i have reached my peak at 235lbs 8% without anything other then orals - test/tren/mast. im done or close to done on just aas

now if you havent been on aas that long 6months to 1 year then purchase gear.

You need to know when to get on hgh, if the scales arent really moving and your eating enough for 5-6 months its time to go with hgh - and then again you monitor it in 6-1 year and then add something else eg insulin more hgh peptides aswell.

my trainer partner is a top pro he helped me turn pro and has made others huge in the world of bodybuilding this is his lessons.

if you have all the money in the world you would start with hgh from the begining, but insulin isnt needed till the end stages because it will ruin your physique eventually.

[mazfit]

eg with hgh

4-6ius 6 moths - with your gear ( gear also increases as you know )

6-7ius 3 months

7-10ius 6 months

10-14ius 6 months and so on

insulin when your growth stops

[Jizmo]

great info man.
so you'd say only add in GH when maxed out on moderate (moderate in the sense of pro BBing) dosages of AAS? ie 3-4g

in terms of money

of course if i had 2k to blow a month id run 20iu from now on lol

i guess ill see how far i can go up to 4-5g AAS and then add GH


id really love to see how far you can get with JUST AAS in huge dosages (health aside)
if you know a homebrewer AAS cost nothing and you can run 10gs of quality AAS a week for a hundred bucks a month

i mean there was this guy in the 80s or so and he claimed to have run multiple grams of test a day. i think his weekly dosage was like >20gs

he was huge, really huge. but not comparable to IFBB pros today, maybe some of the lower tier IFBB guys ones.

[mazfit]

Yeah you see you got the right ide

if your running 4-5g and we know the UK stuff is actually about 4-5g you push it as far as you can with that
if your above age 27 you can forget it though you need hgh.

if you could run 10g a week then you would keep growing if your body accepts it but there are two things you need to be aware of.

1. your physique isnt going to look as good as someone wha has been on a mild dose of hgh with half the gear you are taking, eg: the appearence of less bodyfat, water placement from within the muscle, thinner skin, a more 3d LOOK.

2. your health -  taking 5g of gear + 4ius of growth is better for your body then 10-12 grams of gear. Hgh heals organs aswell as all the other body changes it creates.


Only you know if you have pushed the the realms of AAS - if the scales aree stalling, its time to re design

[mazfit]

My advice

Plan 12 weeks of short acting gear

1 gram tren ace a week
600g-800 mast
600g-800 prop
600-800 NPP
4 weeks Anadrol  - 150mg
4 weeks - dbol 50mg - winny 50-100
last 4 weeks no orals


But still if you can add as little as 3ius black tops to that, after a month your going to notice a nice difference.

£140.00 for black tops 100iu my man its worth it

[mazfit]

After that id just lower the doses a tad no orals and no NPP
ive never really lowered doses much,

but this time i will slightly while upping the HGH

Remember HGH causes hyperplasia - more cells, once those cells grow your going to look thicker not just bigger

[local hero]

So your a recent uk pro in 100kg class.?

[whitewidow]

Wrong, Generic is not dead. Generic in the USA is dead, im using Black tops and getting sides at 2ius, wanted to see what 7ius would do, i didnt even go to work today because my body was in so much pain and i couldnt get out of bed

GENERICS ARENT DEAD YOUR SOURCE IS JUST WACK

How do you know those black tops are for sure 191-AA? I am pretty sure I can get anything you can get. If I want to drop 800$ I can get USA Pharmacy grade but no point in that I'm not trying to go pro. I rather buy some generic and get a deal. I think if you really were a pro you would of started out using more then 2Iu's a day even 7Iu's is avery light for a pro bodybuilder who has used HGH for awhile. Lets see your bloodwork your word means very little without the Pro stars under your handle on here.

[mazfit]

because ive seen the tests on them and ive seen serum tests on them, because my circle is all using them and winning in the uk

im using 4ius i said at 2ius i started getting sides  went to 7ius and its too much - i listen to my coach and he has turned many many into greats he works with guys over in the US hes a huge name in bodybuilding he is british yiou know who he is. -  i turned pro without ANY HGH just AAS and PEPs

Why would i go in at 10ius when im young, when ive done alot with just aas alone.

yes i competed at under 100kgs i will compete at over next time i compete and im not english. 

i competed as muscle model also wbff. no more clues, and i dont give a crap about PRO STARS ON HERE. i dont want people not mods not antone to know who i am - why would i i spend all day thinking about this sport all day planning for this sport you talk about such things thaty i will talk about and any chance of making what little money you can from this cult is gone. you know that as well as i do,.

im here to gv my knowledge to trhe younger guys on here, did i have good genetics no iw eighted 10stone before i started bodybuilding skinny fat.

here to give my knwledge and power to the kids. if they want to turn pro they can but they will put alot at risk, health, mental, relationships and huge cash.

thatys all

[mazfit]

my words mean nothing without STAAAAAAAAAAARSRSRSRSSSS SSSSSSSS STAAAAAAAAARSSSS YES WE ALL WANT STARS  

FUCK THE STARS

YOU MEAN NOTHING WITHOUT PRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOFFFF FFFFFFFF

WHAT PROOF THAT QEVERYTHING I WORKED FOR TO BE SOMETHING IN THIS GAME IS NOW IN SMOKE BECAUSE I BASICALLY ADMITTING TO BE

DRUGGED TO THE EYE BALLS -   WHO ADMITS THAT DRUGS DO MOST OF THE WORK

NOT DIET AND TRAINING

LIKE MUSCLE AND FICTION WANT YOU TO BELIEVE SO THEY CAN SELL THERE SUPPLEMENTS AND SELL THERE MAGAZINE WITH KAI GREENES ULTIMATE WAY TO BUILD A MONSTER BACK  - by doing pyramid incline decline cross function latt pull downs supper setted with fuking monkey bar cross section rows. - tell us about the insulin  and myo folly drugs ki tell us about the doses you tell my coach about mr greene tell us about the research peps we dont even know about here tel us please sir
when theese boys spend time in the UK they come to MY COACH for the stuff ive spent enough time with theese boys

[mazfit]

anyway bfor i start sounding like that idiot gh156 who btw was hafl right/ half douch/ half drug dealer

im just here to give my view - i dont lie about myself - i know alot as you will find out - and now i have a boring day job to fund my bodybuilding

i have the time to speak about things people dont want to speak about

kids should believe they can become huge with 500mg tes 300mg tren and a good diet

it simply will never ever happen.

they need to klnow to be like there idols - LOTS OF THINGS HAVE TO BE PUT AT RISK HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT IT

IF YOU WANT IT LIKE U WANT TO BREATH THEN THEESE THINGS WONT MATTER TO YOU

if you want to be a gym rat look decent enough to get the girls wet and the lads want to be like you
if you want to be a shaggging machine - regular doses and a good diet is fine.  

but my friends here is the problem - bodybuild can be good for you it can also be bad

here it is - you become that ripped 200lbs beast yea, you get all the girls you get the respect
now after a while that stops meaning anything to you - you find pussy is pussy and usually the girls that go for us types of guys arent girls you want to spend time with eventually uy get board of the games the chasing and yes you get bored of it - whart others think ' your in good shape man' its nopt enough any more u crave the
fkin hell you fujkin massive mate,

for me anywaty just looking good and getting piuss wasnt enough anymore, i needed more i needed to walk in a place and people talking to each other i like when peiople say thats to much thats gross whatever

thats just my narcosistic way and that can be trhe problem espessialy if your only child,.

[whitewidow]

anyway bfor i start sounding like that idiot gh156 who btw was hafl right/ half douch/ half drug dealer

im just here to give my view - i dont lie about myself - i know alot as you will find out - and now i have a boring day job to fund my bodybuilding

i have the time to speak about things people dont want to speak about

kids should believe they can become huge with 500mg tes 300mg tren and a good diet

it simply will never ever happen.

they need to klnow to be like there idols - LOTS OF THINGS HAVE TO BE PUT AT RISK HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT IT

IF YOU WANT IT LIKE U WANT TO BREATH THEN THEESE THINGS WONT MATTER TO YOU

if you want to be a gym rat look decent enough to get the girls wet and the lads want to be like you
if you want to be a shaggging machine - regular doses and a good diet is fine. 

Damn bro now you remind me of Gh15. he used to melt down like this. hey if you got the hookup on some real shit help a brother out!

[mazfit]

Damn bro now you remind me of Gh15. he used to melt down like this. hey if you got the hookup on some real shit help a brother out!

i edited it i had more to say

[whitewidow]

i edited it i had more to say

stop talking and start shipping us this shit!jk

[mazfit]

100% i dont supply - why i have boring as fk marketing job - but enjoy

[mazfit]

lots more info from my coach on hygetropin and its story also vs pharma

Remember - pharma is triple the price, so why on earth would my coach push blacks to me if they werent as good as pharma, remeber i win comps = he wins  plus he could make much more money pn pharma







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