Halodrol half life

[youngguns]

What is the half-life of Halodrol?  A nutritionist and chemist was telling me alot PH's half life are to short and are only  good for right before training or say a powerlifting competition.

[Blake]

While I haven't been able to find specific info on Halodrol's half life, being that it's very similar to oral turinabol, it's likely the half life is around 6-7 hours.
And whoever you spoke with was not correct.  If you're using a compound with a short half life you will need to dose it properly (take more often).

[DIVISION]

What is the half-life of Halodrol?  A nutritionist and chemist was telling me alot PH's half life are to short and are only  good for right before training or say a powerlifting competition.

Yes, due to the short half-life you would need to take it an hour or so before competition.

Most PL's use Halotestin, Methyltestosterone or Cheque drops.

Not Halodrol.




DIV

[youngguns]

Do you think it is worth buying?

[DIVISION]

Do you think it is worth buying?

Not a chance......

Halotestin is untouchable for powerlifting.

Feel like a baby gorilla when I'm on that.

It brings out the intensity like nothing else.




DIV

[youngguns]

What do think of Gaspari's over the counter Halodrol?

[DIVISION]

What do think of Gaspari's over the counter Halodrol?

^Read above post.

Halotestin > Halodrol.

Nothing touches this.





DIV

[muscle19]

exactly div, a prohormone could never touch a steroid, if u want to use anything go for the halos bro.


muscle

[youngguns]

thanks, div and muscle.

[w_llewellyn]

Just a small clarification, forgive me.. But much of this new OTC stuff are not Prohormones. That era is over.. They are actual steroids now; just ones you haven't ever seen marketed before.

Superdrol, for example, is c-17 alpha alkylated drostanolone (Masteron).

Years from now, people will look back on this time with fondness.. "Hey, Mark, remember when you could just go to the store and buy potent oral steroids? Those were the days." Oddly enough, those days are still today.

[DIVISION]

Just a small clarification, forgive me.. But much of this new OTC stuff are not Prohormones. That era is over.. They are actual steroids now; just ones you haven't ever seen marketed before.
Superdrol, for example, is c-17 alpha alkylated drostanolone (Masteron).
Years from now, people will look back on this time with fondness.. "Hey, Mark, remember when you could just go to the store and buy potent oral steroids? Those were the days." Oddly enough, those days are still today.

What is the loophole that is allowing the supplement companies to legally sell these drugs if they are known to be AAS?




DIV

[w_llewellyn]

What is the loophole that is allowing the supplement companies to legally sell these drugs if they are known to be AAS?
DIV

Anabolic steroids are schedule III drugs, and not subject to the Analog Drug Act. Each Analog/derrivative steroid needs to be identified and specifically listed as a steroid before the steroid control act really covers it. So these are essentially just steroids that were unknown at the time of the law.

Don't get me wrong. All of these products are in blatant violation of The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act, as they are synthetic in nature. DSHEA covers products that are "found in the food supply". As such, these designer steroids are actually "misbranded drugs", and the companies selling them may one day pay a big price for doing it, or at the very least will be ordered to stop. But for now, they are there, and though illegal to sell, are technically not illegal to posses. This is how I understand it; I'm not an attorney.

[Arnold jr]

Anabolic steroids are schedule III drug, and not subject to the Analog Drug Act. Each Analog/derrivative steroid needs to be identified and specifically listed as a steroid before the steroid control act really covers it. So these are essentially just steroids that were unknown at the time of the law.
Don't get me wrong. All of these products are in blatant violation of The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act, as they are synthetic in nature. As such, they are misbranded drugs, and the comapnies selling them will liekly one day pay a big price for doing it, or at the very least will be ordered to stop. But for now, they are there, and though illegal to sell, are technically not illegal to posses. This is how I understand it; I'm not an attorney.

Well if there is any legitimacy to these products you can bet your ass that they will be shut down. Our government seems to be hell bent on fighting the evil of things that are inevitably not evil, especially when there is no legitimate reason and when all research points the other direction. After all the AMA and FDA at one time opposed the ban on AAS, but dick-wad politicians ignored their reasoning...you'll always here the cry "think of our children, think of their future" but there is an absence of a coherent thought process here. Maybe if these guys would pull their dicks out of their interns mouths for 10 seconds they could get down to doing some real good and dealing with real issues...but I guess those free blow-jobs are just too good to change anything now.

[gammahydroxy]

Just a small clarification, forgive me.. But much of this new OTC stuff are not Prohormones. That era is over.. They are actual steroids now; just ones you haven't ever seen marketed before.
Superdrol, for example, is c-17 alpha alkylated drostanolone (Masteron).
Years from now, people will look back on this time with fondness.. "Hey, Mark, remember when you could just go to the store and buy potent oral steroids? Those were the days." Oddly enough, those days are still today.

People were refering to these substances as pro-hormones, when in fact they are active..The body doesn't need to convert it into a parent hormone..I tried to explain it to many on this board that these substances are in fact potent anabolic steriods, sometimes even more potent than there illegal counterparts..

[davinci]

div its liek i said the only reason these companys can sell these steroids right now are b/c they are not directly listed in the new bann ... so congress is now workin on a blanket amendmant to ban them all no matter what pops up....
and yes as soon as congress gets wind they do shut down the companys


and llwellyn  these are steroids weve never heard of or seen and theres a reason for that... they werent good enough to have further testing back in the 50's the good ones are already banned so now there gettin the crap ones
ill stick with the tried and true and MEDICALLY proven real gear
more potent orals? maybe, more sides? you betcha


another thing id like to note... from cruising all the different boards i can tell you buy lookin at pics of people who are crammin down these otc orals and people who are using real gear... the real gear heads look 100 times better just my 2 cents



on another note i used halodrol to kick off this cycle im on....... i noticed slight strenght increase...... it was ok for 50 bucks for 4 week supply but i wasnt impressed... next time will b d-bol ...

 now that the test has kicked in its way better then any old pro-steroids or prohormoens i have taken with no sides, increased sex drive and a huge difference i can tell in the mirror id rather have those in 3 months then put on the same amount in 1month with a ton of sides like these pro-steroids claim


and halodrol is very close chemically to turnibol and dmt

[DIVISION]

Anabolic steroids are schedule III drugs, and not subject to the Analog Drug Act. Each Analog/derrivative steroid needs to be identified and specifically listed as a steroid before the steroid control act really covers it. So these are essentially just steroids that were unknown at the time of the law.
Don't get me wrong. All of these products are in blatant violation of The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act, as they are synthetic in nature. DSHEA covers products that are "found in the food supply". As such, these designer steroids are actually "misbranded drugs", and the companies selling them may one day pay a big price for doing it, or at the very least will be ordered to stop. But for now, they are there, and though illegal to sell, are technically not illegal to posses. This is how I understand it; I'm not an attorney.

I knew it had to be a technicality, William

That's the only way these OTC AAS could be available.

I don't think they'll be available for long though.

Just a hunch.




DIV

[w_llewellyn]

and llwellyn  these are steroids weve never heard of or seen and theres a reason for that... they werent good enough to have further testing back in the 50's the good ones are already banned so now there gettin the crap ones
ill stick with the tried and true and MEDICALLY proven real gear

Although I see your logic, it doesn't actually work that way in practice. With MANY classes of drugs, there are hundreds of analogs that are possible. You, however, cannot market 100 analogs of testosterone, viagra, tamoxifen... anything really. Approval is too costly, and there just is no market for it. The pharmaceutical companies found a few drugs to market, not necessarily even the most potent ones, and the rest are left sitting in the books. There are literally thousands of steroids that have never been marketed. Doesn't mean they are crap. Just means they were never marketed. Don't get me wrong. There are no injectables being sold now, so anything you'll find that works very well will be a methylated oral. Superdrol will never replace testosterone obviously, but it is a very effective oral AAS nonetheless.

I will give you an example of what I am saying. MENT (7-methyl nandrolone) is a steroid that was researched decades ago and never marketed. But Schering is now taking an interest in it, and if all goes well, it will be approved for sale in the U.S. By the above logic it should be crap, but it is actually a steroid with very interesting and favorable properties.

[w_llewellyn]

I knew it had to be a technicality, William
That's the only way these OTC AAS could be available.
I don't think they'll be available for long though.
Just a hunch.
DIV

I'm shocked they have lasted this long. Personally, will all the silence on the designer steroid issue the past several months, I am expecting that the FDA is either totally clueless, or is planning a big crackdown..

Given past experiences, I'd say it could go either way.

[DIVISION]

I'm shocked they have lasted this long. Personally, will all the silence on the designer steroid issue the past several months, I am expecting that the FDA is either totally clueless, or is planning a big crackdown..
Given past experiences, I'd say it could go either way.

Good point.

Either they are planning a strike now, or they figure they had their big publicity bust and now it's time to move on to other things......at least for the time being.

I honestly don't know which it is.

Is MENT going to be marketed as androgen replacement therapy or something else.

EX: Halotestin is mostly prescribed for female breast cancer patients, but it is rarely prescribed for hypogonadism as well. 




DIV

[gammahydroxy]

Good point.
Either they are planning a strike now, or they figure they had their big publicity bust and now it's time to move on to other things......at least for the time being.
I honestly don't know which it is.
Is MENT going to be marketed as androgen replacement therapy or something else.
EX: Halotestin is mostly prescribed for female breast cancer patients, but it is rarely prescribed for hypogonadism as well. 
DIV

The only androgen that should be used for HRT should be test..Ment a.k.a  Trestolone will never come to market for that purpose..I hear that it aromatizes to a strong estrogen. Will docteors that specialize in HRT prescribe an anti-E as well? probally not..

[gammahydroxy]

MENTs best application would be as Male birth control, it's 12 times more surpessive than regular testosterone..However what male in his right mind would want to use this shit for birth control?
Ment in reality has zero real world application..
However, it looks good as an anabolic steriod to be used in conjunction with test in a cycle.

[davinci]

Although I see your logic, it doesn't actually work that way in practice. With MANY classes of drugs, there are hundreds of analogs that are possible. You, however, cannot market 100 analogs of testosterone, viagra, tamoxifen... anything really. Approval is too costly, and there just is no market for it. The pharmaceutical companies found a few drugs to market, not necessarily even the most potent ones, and the rest are left sitting in the books. There are literally thousands of steroids that have never been marketed. Doesn't mean they are crap. Just means they were never marketed. Don't get me wrong. There are no injectables being sold now, so anything you'll find that works very well will be a methylated oral. Superdrol will never replace testosterone obviously, but it is a very effective oral AAS nonetheless.
I will give you an example of what I am saying. MENT (7-methyl nandrolone) is a steroid that was researched decades ago and never marketed. But Schering is now taking an interest in it, and if all goes well, it will be approved for sale in the U.S. By the above logic it should be crap, but it is actually a steroid with very interesting and favorable properties.

i understand what your saying here but it still seems to me all these orals that have come out as of late still have even more side effects then the old ones before the bans... and the sides/gains ratio still make me turn away from this option.... but good reply


and are you the real llewellyn that writes on md? if so i woulda figured you woulda had some blue stars or something since he has a pretty vast knowledge of steroids

[w_llewellyn]

MENTs best application would be as Male birth control, it's 12 times more surpessive than regular testosterone..However what male in his right mind would want to use this shit for birth control?
Ment in reality has zero real world application..
However, it looks good as an anabolic steriod to be used in conjunction with test in a cycle.

It seems to be an interesting nandrolone derrivative; more androgenic, at it doesn't undergo 5-alpha reduction. I am not sure where it will be in the world of HRT. Schering has plans on offering it as an alternative to testosterone, especially for patients that are concerned with prostate health (it's use for HRT tends to reduce prostate size). I do expect it will have some merit for a number of uses, both in and out of the physician's office.

[w_llewellyn]

i understand what your saying here but it still seems to me all these orals that have come out as of late still have even more side effects then the old ones before the bans... and the sides/gains ratio still make me turn away from this option.... but good reply
and are you the real llewellyn that writes on md? if so i woulda figured you woulda had some blue stars or something since he has a pretty vast knowledge of steroids

I think a lot has to do with them being non-aromatizable methylated steroids. Maybe it is just me, but I prefer cycles with some estrogen. Most of these guys are running just halodrol, superdrol, madol, etc.

Yes, I write for MD. 

[DIVISION]

The only androgen that should be used for HRT should be test..Ment a.k.a  Trestolone will never come to market for that purpose..I hear that it aromatizes to a strong estrogen. Will docteors that specialize in HRT prescribe an anti-E as well? probally not..

The reason I used Halotestin is due to the fact that it doesn't aromatize, and it is prescribed for HRT.  I've seen docs write for it, so take my word on this, GHB.

Some docs will prescribe an anti-e if the patient relays symptoms of gyno.  Seen that too.

As William said, it looks like MENT is making a breakthrough for HRT.  From the looks of it, seems like a good drug to run with Test.



DIV