Has anyone played The Last of Us?

[The True Adonis]

Legend of Zelda ocarina of time, Silent Hill, the first Resident Evils etc etc. You're either trolling or not very smart.

Shit, Shit and Shit.  Next.

I never liked any of them.  Zelda is a child's RPG.  Nothing like The Witcher.

[Kwon_2]

Found this quest in The Witcher 3, check the name, should I leave it?

A quest you should avoid!

[The True Adonis]

I've always loved Japanese games.  

Their best games are much more beautiful and have "tighter" mechanics.

The latter point is a little hard to describe without examples.  The main one that sticks out in my mind: health systems.  Many Japanese games don't feature health bars, or have very small health bars.  You aren't supposed to get hit in these games; taking damage is almost never necessary.  Many players master the levels, and then clear them "perfectly".  In contrast, Western games have never been like this.  They've always featured big health bars and ample health replenishment.  Taking damage is inevitable.

While I'm not going to argue which style is inherently better, I prefer the Japanese style.  When the player must be able to clear a stage without taking damage, every aspect of the game must be carefully considered.  When you have a huge health bar and the environment is littered with health packs, the developers can get away with much sloppier design.

Have you ever tried the Souls series (Demon's Souls, Dark Souls I/II, Bloodborne)?  These are modern "action RPGs" with a subtle method of storytelling.  There are few cutscenes or dialogs, but the "story" is told through visual details and item descriptions.  You have to piece the story together on your own, and doing so is quite fun.  The attention to detail is meticulous.

Anyway, I mention these games because they have almost no anime trappings and show the strengths of traditional Japanese game design in an era where, sadly, many Japanese developers seem to have lost their way.

Some great Japanese developers:

Platinum games (hideki kamiya, formerly shinji mikami)
Nintendo (at times... I wouldn't call them too great these days: Shigeru Miyamoto, Yokoi Gunpei (RIP))
FROM software (hidetaka miyazaki)
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Capcom (many... most gone now.  studio has had its ups and downs over the years)
SCE Japan Studio (Fumito Ueda -- departed now)

Not trying to be rude, but Japanese games do appeal to people with more a neurotic, OCD brain.  Their entire culture is basically steeped in OCD mechanics and their video games are no different.  I can see why you prefer their games.  

[The True Adonis]

Pattern-seeking morons fooled by flashing lights and whirring sounds.  Rinse, repeat, then repeat 20 times again.

Fuck Mario, Fuck Dark Souls and Fuck all of their games except Metal Gear.

[The True Adonis]

Mario Brothers makes fuck all sense.

Games for morons.

[el numero uno]

Shit, Shit and Shit.  Next.

I never liked any of them.  Zelda is a child's RPG.  Nothing like The Witcher.

Zelda a RPG?  

[The True Adonis]

Zelda a RPG?  

Exactly.  Its such a piece of shit, it can't even decide if it is an RPG or kiddie game masquerading as one.

Have fun with your children characters and anime, you fucking baby.

[el numero uno]

Exactly.  Its such a piece of shit, it can't even decide if it is an RPG or kiddie game masquerading as one.

Have fun with your children characters and anime, you fucking baby.

Can't even tell if you're really retarded or just trolling.

[el numero uno]

Exactly.  Its such a piece of shit, it can't even decide if it is an RPG or kiddie game masquerading as one.

Have fun with your children characters and anime, you fucking baby.

Just curious. What games you have enjoyed the most?

[cephissus]

Not trying to be rude, but Japanese games do appeal to people with more a neurotic, OCD brain.  Their entire culture is basically steeped in OCD mechanics and their video games are no different.  I can see why you prefer their games.  

I fully agree.  I've always felt a sense of affinity with Japanese culture.

That said, I'm also very sensitive to visual beauty, and I think Japan also wins here, hands down.  Not talking about anime (though I don't mind it), but the imagination displayed by their top studios is unparalleled.

I think MGS is actually the perfect example.   Look at how bland and boring Splinter Cell -- the most similar western series -- appears by comparison.  And then, take any other series which uses a modern day / slightly-futuristic sci-fi setting, like various entries in CoD or Battlefield... or countless other series.  They all fall flat by comparison.

I'm only saying, plenty of Japanese studios display this kind of visual imagination.  Platinum games, FROM software, Capcom, Grasshopper Manufacture, SCE Japan, etc.

Random screenshot from Bloodborne, an action-rpg with a Gothic-style setting:



Now how about "Lords of the Fallen", a Western knockoff:



yawn 

[The True Adonis]

Just curious. What games you have enjoyed the most?

Red Dead Redemption, Witcher 3, Grand Theft Auto (all of them), Mass Effect-all of them.  Many other games as well.  Metal Gear series, Forza, Gran Turismo. Too many to list really.

[The True Adonis]

I fully agree.  I've always felt a sense of affinity with Japanese culture.

That said, I'm also very sensitive to visual beauty, and I think Japan also wins here, hands down.  Not talking about anime (though I don't mind it), but the imagination displayed by their top studios is unparalleled.

I think MGS is actually the perfect example.   Look at how bland and boring Splinter Cell -- the most similar western series -- appears by comparison.  And then, take any other series which uses a modern day / slightly-futuristic sci-fi setting, like various entries in CoD or Battlefield... or countless other series.  They all fall flat by comparison.

I'm only saying, plenty of Japanese studios display this kind of visual imagination.  Platinum games, FROM software, Capcom, Grasshopper Manufacture, SCE Japan, etc.

Random screenshot from Bloodborne, an action-rpg with a Gothic-style setting:



Now how about "Lords of the Fallen", a Western knockoff:



yawn 

Witcher 3. 

End of thread.

[FermiDirac]

Am I the only one ready to take a weeks worth of vacation when Fallout 4 drops? I've stashed a good 50 gallons of mtn dew, 20lbs of dorritos and got pizza delivery on speed dial. I will probably die from either malnutrition or brain seizures.

[The Wizard of Truth]

Am I the only one ready to take a weeks worth of vacation when Fallout 4 drops? I've stashed a good 50 gallons of mtn dew, 20lbs of dorritos and got pizza delivery on speed dial. I will probably die from either malnutrition or brain seizures.

Never played any of the fallout games, as I got older I drifted more towards games I could spend a half hour at when I had a little free time, like fifa soccer or mortal kombat rather than the marathon sessions on the likes of ff7 I had as a young teenager

[FermiDirac]

Never played any of the fallout games, as I got older I drifted more towards games I could spend a half hour at when I had a little free time, like fifa soccer or mortal kombat rather than the marathon sessions on the likes of ff7 I had as a young teenager

Small sessions of Counter Strike: Global Offensive is a guilty pleasure of mine. Hopping in and playing a few rounds, perfect when you don't have hours to spare.

[da_vinci]

Haven't tried it, but looks to be a nice and realistic game:

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[cephissus]

so far, MGS V living up to all expectations... this is the kind of game you dreamed about as a kid

[Grape Ape]

so far, MGS V living up to all expectations... this is the kind of game you dreamed about as a kid

Can you give us a little more detail?

[Kwon_2]

What has boggled my mind is that Kojima is about the only Japanese guy to make a game with story and is about the only talented one from that whole country.  The rest of them only seem to produce button mashers, stupid anime games and poorly executed fantastical hack and slash pointlessness that all feature weird yelling and whining child like sounds.

Kojima is probably hated because he can actually make a great game with a great story and gameplay. 

Legend of Zelda, Final Fantasy-series, Suikoden I and II, Phantasy Star, Secret of Mana, Valkyria Chronicles, Xenogears, Xenoblade, Dark Souls, Chrono Trigger, Persona, Grandia and Dragon Quest.

[YngiweRhoads]

Legend of Zelda, Final Fantasy-series, Suikoden I and II, Phantasy Star, Secret of Mana, Valkyria Chronicles, Xenogears, Xenoblade, Dark Souls, Chrono Trigger, Persona, Grandia and Dragon Quest.

All the best RPGs are Japanese. I was bored to tears with the Mass Effect games.

[cephissus]

Can you give us a little more detail?

- Drastically better AI than previous games in the series.  If you played GZ, you know this... the variety of behavior is incredible.  They have realistic eyesight, as well -- no longer deaf and dumb, you have to be really careful.  I feel they're even sharper than in GZ.

- Absolutely beautiful game.  Again, if you played GZ you know what to expect, but the environments are HUGE, the day/night cycle looks awesome, the enemy designs are imaginative, I could go on and on... one of the best looking games ever, easily.

- Builds on GZ and MGS4's mechanics -- the best, deepest systems ever seen in a third person shooting game.

I've only scratched the surface so far, but I have no complaints.

[Kim Jong Bob]

so far, MGS V living up to all expectations... this is the kind of game you dreamed about as a kid

went to the store just before it closed and got it yesterday, only played 15mins but looks excellent. Git some great reviews to

[Grape Ape]

went to the store just before it closed and got it yesterday, only played 15mins but looks excellent. Git some great reviews to

Store?  Lol.  Still go to the bank too?

3rd world country practices of peace....

 

[Hypo]

Am I the only one ready to take a weeks worth of vacation when Fallout 4 drops? I've stashed a good 50 gallons of mtn dew, 20lbs of dorritos and got pizza delivery on speed dial. I will probably die from either malnutrition or brain seizures.

Fallout and Hitman come out in Nov. I would take vacation time, however, I work for myself so I'm just going to do some all-nighters.