Justice Dept. affirms Clinton could delete personal emails

[240 is Back]

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton had the right to delete personal emails from her private server, the Justice Department told a federal court.

Lawyers for the government made the assertion in a filing this week with the U.S. District Court in Washington, part of a public records lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group that seeks access to Clinton's emails.

Clinton, the former secretary of state and front-runner for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination, has been dogged by questions about her use of a private email account for government business.

She has said that she sent and received about 60,000 emails during her four years in the Obama administration, about half of which were personal and deleted. The others were turned over to the State Department.

FULL story at link.

[LurkerNoMore]

Clinton scores another victory over the whiny ass crybabies who have had their insecurities set aflame. 
Looks like they will have to find something else to cry about now.

http://news.yahoo.com/justice-dept-affirms-clinton-could-delete-personal-emails-223049314--election.html?nf=1

WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton had the right to delete personal emails from her private server, the Justice Department told a federal court.

Lawyers for the government made the assertion in a filing this week with the U.S. District Court in Washington, part of a public records lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group that seeks access to Clinton's emails.

Clinton, the former secretary of state and front-runner for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination, has been dogged by questions about her use of a private email account for government business.

She has said that she sent and received about 60,000 emails during her four years in the Obama administration, about half of which were personal and deleted. The others were turned over to the State Department.

The FBI has been investigating the security of Clinton's email setup, which she said she used as a matter of convenience. She has since acknowledged that her use of a private email server to conduct government business was a mistake and apologized this week.

Clinton asserts that she had the right under government rules to decide which emails were private and to delete them. This week's filing puts the Justice Department's approval on Clinton's claim.

"There is no question that former Secretary Clinton had authority to delete personal emails without agency supervision — she appropriately could have done so even if she were working on a government server," attorneys from the Justice Department's civil division wrote.

Judicial Watch had requested a court order from the judge to ensure that Clinton's emails were being preserved. But the Justice Department said there was no need for such an order given that Clinton had the right to delete personal emails and that those messages are not subject to the public records law.

The government said Judicial Watch had presented no evidence to suggest Clinton had mistakenly or intentionally deleted government records instead of personal emails, and said "government agencies are not required to take steps to recover deleted material based on unfounded speculation that responsive information had been deleted."

The Justice Department brief argues that "there is no legal basis in the (Freedom of Information Act) for requesters to obtain employees' personal records and, therefore, there is no legal basis for the court to order the State Department to preserve, or to take steps to preserve, the personal records of the former secretary or any other current or former federal employee."

[240 is Back]

the DOJ didn't go after bush when 22 million emails were "accidentally" deleted.

The entire historical leadup to the war in iraq, all those messages with false intel, and we are just to believe nobody bothered to back them up.  we'd be poring over those emails for decades, seeing who actually fished up the idea, who was pushed into agreeing, etc.  one day, oops, sorry, we deleted them on accident.  Zero accountability.

so i guess we shouldn't act surprised when the DOJ doesn't go after hilary for it either.   

[LurkerNoMore]

the DOJ didn't go after bush when 22 million emails were "accidentally" deleted.

The entire historical leadup to the war in iraq, all those messages with false intel, and we are just to believe nobody bothered to back them up.  we'd be poring over those emails for decades, seeing who actually fished up the idea, who was pushed into agreeing, etc.  one day, oops, sorry, we deleted them on accident.  Zero accountability.

so i guess we shouldn't act surprised when the DOJ doesn't go after hilary for it either.   

Completely different thing here brah.  You just have to be wearing your Goggles O' Smoke while sitting in the ol' Bubble O' Delusion in order to understand it.

[240 is Back]

Completely different thing here brah.  You just have to be wearing your Goggles O' Smoke while sitting in the ol' Bubble O' Delusion in order to understand it.

so you're saying hilary should be in prison and bush should get the nobel peace prize?

[LurkerNoMore]

so you're saying hilary should be in prison and bush should get the nobel peace prize?

Hilary should be guilty.  Of what, I don't know.  But surely there is SOMETHING they can convict her for and send her to jail.  I mean, they been trying since 1992 after all.

[240 is Back]

Hilary should be guilty.  Of what, I don't know.  But surely there is SOMETHING they can convict her for and send her to jail.  I mean, they been trying since 1992 after all.

at some point, she deserves prison time, just for all the wasted republican man hours. 

i mean, gowdy, Issa, they aren't effective, but by golly, they spend so many hours on fox talking a mean game.  That means a lot. 

[iwantmass]

Oh boy, where to start with your idiocy yet again.  The justice department "asserts" she broke no laws.  Well...the justice department doesn't exactly have a history of following the law, whether it be under the Obama, Bush, or any previous administration.  I assert that 240 is the dumbest person on this board in almost all of my very limited posting history.  While i firmly believe that, it doesn't make it necessarily true and I'm certain he disagrees with me to that point.

But on to your argument in regards to the nature of the accusations against Hillary.  I need a bit of clarity

Are you asserting that

A) She is completely innocent of any crime.  The deception, damage to actual hard drives, constant attempts to be less than forthcoming about all this is not somewhat suspicious?

B)Your argument is that of a 5 year old, 2 wrongs make a right.  Well, Hillary broke the law but so did Bush.  This one is rather silly coming from you considering you call out Coach and the former 333... fella on their conservative bias and attempts to spew half truths and cherry pick their arguments.  In my opinion, the group of you that are critical of Coach and the 333 fella are literally the polar opposite.  You blindly defend any liberal wrong doing. 

C)You are attempting to use a Strawman argument.  You know Hillary has a hard position to defend, given all the evidence, so you attempt to use slight of hand and trickery and point elsewhere. What the Bush administration did is completely irrelevant.  Bush and all his lackeys have no bearing on whatever crime Clinton may have/have not committed.  Stop using that argument and actually tackle the topic at hand. 

I've watched you spam this board as much as 333 used to do, just from a liberal point of view.  You are his carbon copy with your fantasy driven arguments and complete inability to provide an unbiased argument.

[240 is Back]

Oh boy, where to start with your idiocy yet again.  The justice department "asserts" she broke no laws.  Well...the justice department doesn't exactly have a history of following the law, whether it be under the Obama, Bush, or any previous administration.  I assert that 240 is the dumbest person on this board in almost all of my very limited posting history.  While i firmly believe that, it doesn't make it necessarily true and I'm certain he disagrees with me to that point.

clinton is crooked as shit, and no doubt used server for shady shit.

but it may just be a case of lawyering up, covering tracks, and not giving justice anything to work with.

I think she belongs in jail for benghazi already, so I'm no clinton apologist... but in this case, she pulled a zimmerman and was just legal enough, just quiet enough, just shrewd enough, to get away with it.

Me saying "she will get away with it" isn't the same as "she's innocent".  She's obviously not.

[iwantmass]

clinton is crooked as shit, and no doubt used server for shady shit.

but it may just be a case of lawyering up, covering tracks, and not giving justice anything to work with.

I think she belongs in jail for benghazi already, so I'm no clinton apologist... but in this case, she pulled a zimmerman and was just legal enough, just quiet enough, just shrewd enough, to get away with it.

Me saying "she will get away with it" isn't the same as "she's innocent".  She's obviously not.

Fair enough.  Thanks for clearing that up

[headhuntersix]

All 60K of those emails were about her yoga classes and her kids' wedding...come on folks.

[240 is Back]

All 60K of those emails were about her yoga classes and her kids' wedding...come on folks.

we all know she was lying.  Probably selling influence for donor dollars.

On the other hand - Repubs are mocking her email for her TV choices.  Repubs are purposely holding off on the indictment or investigation findings until 13 months from now - predicting it'll be an October surprise.

So they don't want "justice", they just want to use her server to damage her politically. 

[LurkerNoMore]

All 60K of those emails were about her yoga classes and her kids' wedding...come on folks.

Doesn't matter what they were for.  Looks like you have to find something else to whine about now.

[Dos Equis]

Oh boy, where to start with your idiocy yet again.  The justice department "asserts" she broke no laws.  Well...the justice department doesn't exactly have a history of following the law, whether it be under the Obama, Bush, or any previous administration.  I assert that 240 is the dumbest person on this board in almost all of my very limited posting history.  While i firmly believe that, it doesn't make it necessarily true and I'm certain he disagrees with me to that point.

But on to your argument in regards to the nature of the accusations against Hillary.  I need a bit of clarity

Are you asserting that

A) She is completely innocent of any crime.  The deception, damage to actual hard drives, constant attempts to be less than forthcoming about all this is not somewhat suspicious?

B)Your argument is that of a 5 year old, 2 wrongs make a right.  Well, Hillary broke the law but so did Bush.  This one is rather silly coming from you considering you call out Coach and the former 333... fella on their conservative bias and attempts to spew half truths and cherry pick their arguments.  In my opinion, the group of you that are critical of Coach and the 333 fella are literally the polar opposite.  You blindly defend any liberal wrong doing. 

C)You are attempting to use a Strawman argument.  You know Hillary has a hard position to defend, given all the evidence, so you attempt to use slight of hand and trickery and point elsewhere. What the Bush administration did is completely irrelevant.  Bush and all his lackeys have no bearing on whatever crime Clinton may have/have not committed.  Stop using that argument and actually tackle the topic at hand. 

I've watched you spam this board as much as 333 used to do, just from a liberal point of view.  You are his carbon copy with your fantasy driven arguments and complete inability to provide an unbiased argument.

Holy smokes.  Who is this guy?  lol   

[TuHolmes]

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/13/wheels-fall-republican-email-scandal-hillary-clintons-server-wiped.html


The Hillary Clinton email scandal is quickly rolling down the path of other empty Republican scandals as it is being reported that her private email server was not wiped.

The Washington Post reported:

The company that managed Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private e-mail server said it has “no knowledge of the server being wiped,” the strongest indication to date that tens of thousands of e-mails that Clinton has said were deleted could be recovered.

Clinton and her advisers have said for months that she deleted her personal correspondence from her time as secretary of state, creating the impression that 31,000 e-mails were gone forever.

….

“Platte River has no knowledge of the server being wiped,” company spokesman Andy Boian told The Washington Post. “All the information we have is that the server wasn’t wiped.”

Republicans have been claiming for months that Clinton wiped the email server. In March, the chairman of the House’s Benghazi investigation, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-OK) said, “We learned today, from her attorney, Secretary Clinton unilaterally decided to wipe her server clean and permanently delete all emails from her personal server. While it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department.”

Republicans have been pushing the “wiped server” as evidence of wrongdoing, as they keep hinting that Clinton committed a crime.

It turns out that the wiped server can now join the list of Republican myths that includes the targeting on only conservatives by the IRS, Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate, and the Benghazi stand down order.

Anyone who pays attention to how the House Republican majority operates has seen this behavior before. Republicans take a conspiracy theory and hammer it into the ground via repetition. The fact adverse elements of the mainstream press run with the empty Republican claims. Congressional investigations are launched. The facts do eventually come out, and the scandal vanishes into the black hole that is conservative media.

Clinton said that she didn’t break any laws. The departments of State and Justice confirmed that no laws were broken. Clinton said that she didn’t wipe her email server. It is confirmed that she didn’t.

It turns out that Hillary Clinton has been telling the truth about her emails. So far, the Republican claims against her have turned out to be false.

Without facts, the Republican Clinton email scandal is destined to vanish into right-wing oblivion just like all of the others. As long as the press continues to refuse to fact-check Republicans, these “scandals” will flare up until they are extinguished by reality.

[240 is Back]

The company that managed Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private e-mail server said it has “no knowledge of the server being wiped,” the strongest indication to date that tens of thousands of e-mails that Clinton has said were deleted could be recovered.

Clinton and her advisers have said for months that she deleted her personal correspondence from her time as secretary of state, creating the impression that 31,000 e-mails were gone forever.

….

“Platte River has no knowledge of the server being wiped,” company spokesman Andy Boian told The Washington Post. “All the information we have is that the server wasn’t wiped.”

Republicans have been claiming for months that Clinton wiped the email server. In March, the chairman of the House’s Benghazi investigation, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-OK) said, “We learned today, from her attorney, Secretary Clinton unilaterally decided to wipe her server clean and permanently delete all emails from her personal server. While it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department.”

Republicans have been pushing the “wiped server” as evidence of wrongdoing, as they keep hinting that Clinton committed a crime.

I highly doubt any republican would just 'make up' something to smear the Dem frontrunner for president.

I attribute this to gross incompetence and ignorance on Gowdy's part, and not any nefarious motivation.



He's stupid, but not shady.