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Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« on: November 05, 2015, 09:38:10 PM »
I try to follow politics somewhat, and I generally roll my eyes at the news that strikes me as absurd, but Syria, that's a whole 'nother level, right? It's hard not to be pissed off by this random thrashing around but maybe someone can give a solid excuse on what we are doing. I get that we are dropping arms to the Kurds, but other than that it seems piss all...

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Re: Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2015, 10:42:30 PM »
With Russia there, any other country getting involved opens the possibly of by mistake bombing Russian assets or getting bombed by Russia and what happens after that can be extremely disastrous.

The goal now for everyone should be to eliminate ISIS. Stop worrying about if we want to overthrow Assad as well or now. First thing first, destroy ISIS.


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Re: Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2015, 03:35:20 AM »

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Re: Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2015, 04:30:34 AM »
After Iraq and afghan the west/ obama don't really want to be involved. So they do the minimum. If Russia goes in on ground the west will publicly complain but privately agree to it.

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Re: Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2015, 04:33:50 AM »
Israel and RUssia are playing cat and mouse in the region. They also pester each others radio signals and won't coordinate their locations.

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Re: Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2015, 04:38:07 AM »
Israel and RUssia are playing cat and mouse in the region. They also pester each others radio signals and won't coordinate their locations.
HAHHA that is your little fantasy. The fact is Russia and Israel have setup a special communications system so they can work together. I do understand thou that you most likely watched a youtube video of some dude in his moms basement that after a heavy crack sessions voiced his theory about what is happening.

I suggest you get your info using other methods.

Here is a TIP, if you see RT and TimesOfIsrael and CNN agree of a story about Russia and Israel, you can take it to the bank.


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Re: Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2015, 05:28:14 AM »
HAHHA that is your little fantasy. The fact is Russia and Israel have setup a special communications system so they can work together. I do understand thou that you most likely watched a youtube video of some dude in his moms basement that after a heavy crack sessions voiced his theory about what is happening.

I suggest you get your info using other methods.

Here is a TIP, if you see RT and TimesOfIsrael and CNN agree of a story about Russia and Israel, you can take it to the bank.

LMAO at those news stations you just mentioned. Give me a break, kid, all of those news stations are "no see, no hear, no speak" abominations, LOL! CNN, dawg, rly? Just kill yourself.

http://www.debka.com/article/24990/What-coordination-Russia-and-Israeli-warplanes-play-cat-and-mouse-over-Syria

"Syrian media reported an Israeli air force attack Sunday, Nov. 1, after two sorties Friday night against Syrian army and Hizballah bases in the Qalamoun Mountains on the Lebanese border. The IDF declined to confirm or deny these reports. Syrian sources described a large number of Israeli airplanes as bombing a Hizballah unit based in the village of El Ain in northern Lebanon and the arms depot of the 155th Brigade of the Syrian army at Al-Katifa to the east.

The two targets are 70 km apart. So these air strikes must have targeted two key points along the Iranian arms supply route to Hizballah.
They also raise three important questions:

1. Did Israel’s Tel Aviv command center use the hotline to Russian headquarters to give Moscow prior warning of air strikes against Syrian and Hizballah targets, explaining that no harm was intended to the Russian military in Syria?

Hardly likely; the Russians would not be expected to tolerate Israeli bombardments so close to their own military enclave in Latakia province.
2.  Did Russian surveillance planes and stations detect the approach of Israel’s bombers and decide not to interfere?

After all, Israel has turned a blind eye to repeated Russian air strikes in the last few days against rebel positions in the southern Syrian town of Deraa and Quneitra opposite IDF Golan positions. The two cases suggest a gentlemen’s agreement between Russia and Israel to abstain from interfering with each other’s air operations over Syria, so long as there are no direct clashes between the two air forces. This could easily have happened when Russian planes bombed Quneitra.
So is Moscow giving Israel enough aerial leeway to strike Iranian, Syria and Hizballah targets so long as there is no interference in Russian operations?

That too is unlikely because it would amount to permission for the Israeli air force to operate inside the anti-access/area denial bubble which the Russian air force has imposed over Syria.
3.  Did the Israeli air force use electronic warfare measures to jam the tracking systems installed in Russian spy planes and air defense missile systems in Syria?

debkafile’s military sources have this answer: Israel and Russia have been conducting a clandestine electronic contest for 33 years, since the memorable episode in 1982, when the Israeli air force destroyed in a single strike the entire Russian air defense missile system installed in Syria.

Since then, the Russians have worked hard to develop electronic warfare measures for gaining on the Israeli edge, without much success.
This was strikingly demonstrated in September 2007, when the Russian-made electronic tracking and warfare systems, which were the backbone of Syria air defense missile batteries, missed the Israeli warplanes as they came in to bomb the North Korean-built Iranian-Syrian plutonium reactor going up in northern Syria.

This lapse may have recurred in the case of the Israeli air sorties Saturday."


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Re: Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2015, 06:15:14 AM »
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Re: Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2015, 07:34:29 AM »
Syria is one of the last places with their own central banker, meaning one that isn't controlled by foreigners. Same could have been said for Iran and Afghanistan a few years ago and we all know how that went.

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Re: Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2015, 09:53:39 AM »
LOL @ using Debka as a source of truth.

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Re: Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2015, 10:07:27 AM »
Syria is one of the last places with their own central banker, meaning one that isn't controlled by foreigners. Same could have been said for Iran and Afghanistan a few years ago and we all know how that went.

What are you saying exactly...

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Re: Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2015, 10:27:19 AM »
All playing into the hands of the Stonecutters.

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Re: Any non-partisan explanations of our Syria strategy?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2015, 01:13:47 PM »
All playing into the hands of the Stonecutters.

Moe, Lenny, Mr Burns. All. Of them.