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Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« on: November 20, 2015, 09:14:46 PM »
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ISIS using encrypted apps for communications; former intel officials blame Snowden [Updated]
NY Times pulls report of French officials' claims Paris attackers used encrypted apps.

by Sean Gallagher - Nov 16, 2015 1:46pm PST
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Update: The New York Times has pulled a story it published Monday stating that French officials speaking off the record had said the Paris attackers used encrypted communications to coordinate their attacks with ISIS. Ars will update this story further as more information on the retraction becomes available; our original story, including references to that reporting, is below.

The investigation into last Friday's coordinated terrorist attacks has quickly turned up evidence that members of the Islamic State (ISIS) communicated with the attackers from Syria using encrypted communications, according to French officials.

Former CIA Deputy Director Michael Morell said in an interview on CBS' Face the Nation on Sunday, "I think what we're going to learn is that these guys are communicating via these encrypted apps, this commercial encryption which is very difficult or nearly impossible for governments to break, and the producers of which don't produce the keys necessary for law enforcement to read the encrypted messages."

The use of encrypted communications by ISIS has prompted various former intelligence officials and media analysts to blame NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden for tipping off terrorist organizations to intelligence agencies' surveillance capabilities and for their "going dark" with their communications. Former CIA Director James Woolsey said in multiple interviews that former NSA contractor and whistleblower Edward Snowden "has blood on his hands," and the changes made by the Obama administration to surveillance as a result of the Snowden leaks and the changes that terrorists made in communicating with each other based on the leaks had led directly to the inability of the intelligence community in the US and in France to stop the Paris attacks from happening.

That blame seems a bit far-fetched, given that terrorist organizations have been using encryption of various sorts for more than 15 years at least. And additional details shared by officials since the attack suggest that metadata from the encrypted communications provided early warning that an attack in France was imminent. US intelligence officials warned the French government nearly two months ago that ISIS was planning an attack in France. The French Air Force struck targets in Raqqa, Syria—ISIS' proclaimed capital—on October 8, based on that intelligence, in an attempt to take out those planning and coordinating the attacks.  


http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/isis-encrypted-communications-with-paris-attackers-french-officials-say/[/b]  




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The director of the CIA has said today that 'unauthorized disclosures' such as the Snowden leaks have made it 'much more difficult' to track down terrorists in the wake of the Paris shootings.
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Michael Morell, who served as deputy CIA director from 2010 to 2013, wrote in his memoirs published this year that Snowden's revelations aided ISIS. "Within weeks of the leaks, terrorist organizations around the world were already starting to modify their actions in light of what Snowden disclosed. Communications sources dried up, tactics were changed,” Morell wrote. "ISIS was one of those terrorist groups that learned from Snowden, and it is clear that his actions played a role in the rise of ISIS."

Last week, former CIA director Jim Woolsey, who was appointed by Bill Clinton, said that Snowden has "blood on his hands."  

https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/isis-manual-cites-edward-snowden_1066817.html


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Edward Snowden’s 2013 leak of classified NSA documents is perfect fodder for conspiracy theorists -- it has intrigue, still-unreleased documents, and the NSA as "Big Brother."

So it’s no surprise to see Snowden’s name attached to the increasingly popular idea that America and Israel created ISIS. On July 16, Bahrain’s Gulf Daily News reported that "Edward Snowden has revealed that the British and American intelligence and the Mossad (Israel’s intelligence agency) worked together to create the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)." This operation, they said, was codenamed "Hornet’s Nest."

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/19/blog-posting/edward-snowden-leaked-nsa-documents-show-us-israel/


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The use of encrypted communications by ISIS has prompted various former intelligence officials and media analysts to blame NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden for tipping off terrorist organizations to intelligence agencies' surveillance capabilities and for their "going dark" with their communications. Former CIA Director James Woolsey said in multiple interviews that former NSA contractor and whistleblower Edward Snowden "has blood on his hands," and the changes made by the Obama administration to surveillance as a result of the Snowden leaks and the changes that terrorists made in communicating with each other based on the leaks had led directly to the inability of the intelligence community in the US and in France to stop the Paris attacks from happening.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/isis-encrypted-communications-with-paris-attackers-french-officials-say/



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In the months after the Snowden disclosures, U.S. officials tell Yahoo News, some terror suspects — including those associated with IS in Iraq and Syria — were even overheard by U.S. intelligence making comments along the lines of “let’s not use that anymore,” one former official said.

 http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/11/16/intel-officials-say-isis-studied-snowden-material-conceal-operations/


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According to the English translation, "Snowden advised not to use the service and considered it dangerous to personal security and privacy."


https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/isis-manual-cites-edward-snowden_1066817.html


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John Brennan, CIA director, claimed "unauthorised disclosures" on how the US security services operated, such as Snowden's infamous leaks have led to their snooping techniques being hampered.

He said it was now "much more difficult" to track down terrorists and work out what they are planning and when and where because of curbs introduced on surveillance in the wake of Snowden's exposures.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/620270/Traitor-Edward-Snowden-taught-ISIS-Paris-terrorists-avoid-detection-NSA-CIA-John-Brennan

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2015, 09:51:22 PM »
You need to put more effort in to your post.


You're not reaking of desperation enough
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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2015, 09:52:11 PM »
You need to put more effort in to your post.


You're not reaking of desperation enough

Makes no sense. Your post sucks more than you do at the truckstop glory hole on a Friday night.

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2015, 10:54:50 PM »
Wiggs ducking this thread more than tbombz ducking an AIDS tests

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2015, 11:00:24 PM »
Sorry Shnauz, What are you accusing me of?
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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2015, 11:22:59 PM »
Sorry Shnauz, What are you accusing me of?

Kissing Snowden's ass and giving me shit for calling him a traitor

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2015, 11:24:55 PM »
Kissing Snowden's ass and giving me shit for calling him a traitor

Did I? I apologize, I don't remember. Perhaps that was when I wasn't aware of the evils of our government.  I'd have to know the date.
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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2015, 11:27:51 PM »
Did I? I apologize, I don't remember. Perhaps that was when I wasn't aware of the evils of our government.  I'd have to know the date.

The data shows that Edward Snowden is a piece of shit that stole classified information from the US and gave it to Russia, He also weakened the US' ability to intercept ISIS commo.

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2015, 11:30:45 PM »
Imagine if some CIA agent is telling Russia that if Snowden would not have leaked the info the terrorists would not have used encryption and the Russian plan attack would never have happened as we would be able to see their communication.


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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2015, 11:36:53 PM »
Imagine if some CIA agent is telling Russia that if Snowden would not have leaked the info the terrorists would not have used encryption and the Russian plan attack would never have happened as we would be able to see their communication.



When (not if) ISIS strikes in the US, the dumb liberals will be running around screaming, "Why didn't anyone protect us?". Durrrrrrr, Snowden was protecting our rights, durrrrrr.......

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2015, 11:56:41 PM »
When (not if) ISIS strikes in the US, the dumb liberals will be running around screaming, "Why didn't anyone protect us?". Durrrrrrr, Snowden was protecting our rights, durrrrrr.......
They attack the US and americans will demand boots on the ground, lots of em, hopefully ISIS not that nuts

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2015, 11:58:58 PM »
They attack the US and americans will demand boots on the ground, lots of em, hopefully ISIS not that nuts

I don't know, there are a lot of moron liberals that will blame the US

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2015, 04:58:58 AM »
I absolutely refuse to have an argument about cryptography, it's uses and techniques, along with a discussion of libertarian philosophy and individualism in this thread. It's pointless.

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2015, 05:10:01 AM »
We created ISIS you utterly worthless piece of rat turd. Quit being such a right wing dumb shit.



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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2015, 06:34:58 AM »
The data shows that Edward Snowden is a piece of shit that stole classified information from the US and gave it to Russia, He also weakened the US' ability to intercept ISIS commo.

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I'm sure ISIS has become so advanced within in the last 5 years because of Snowden's sharing of information. We had less trouble and a better idea of what terrorists were doing when they were armed with box cutters......

Government propaganda of peace.

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2015, 06:39:56 AM »
::)

I'm sure ISIS has become so advanced within in the last 5 years because of Snowden's sharing of information. We had less trouble and a better idea of what terrorists were doing when they were armed with box cutters......

Government propaganda of peace.
damn thats a good reply

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2015, 07:37:33 AM »
snowden didn't release any information

It was published by about 15 different major news organizations, they chose what information to release to the public.

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2015, 07:44:23 AM »
We created ISIS you utterly worthless piece of rat turd. Quit being such a right wing dumb shit.

And now they've gotten out of control and need to be put down like a rabid dog. Your point?

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2015, 06:21:26 AM »
Snowden did not give any information to the Russians

And this article clearly outlines better than I could do,  how the Snowden releases have not been of help to the "terrorists"  (they are really just criminals murdering innocent people)   or government calls for bans on encryption or US government mass surveillance of Americans has been completely useless for deterring the
"terrorists".   Please remember that these attacks are blowback for the US and it's European (and other) puppet lap dog governments attacks on, invasion and occupation of muslim countries that did not attack us in any way.  

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-20/5-myths-regarding-paris-terror-attacks  

It's the psychopathic neo-con CRIMINAL foreign policy the US has been pursuing that is bringing this all about.  This is not to excuse the criminals murdering innocent people in these terrorist attacks,  but perhaps it explains their motivation.

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2015, 06:30:20 AM »
Snowden did not give any information to the Russians

And this article clearly outlines better than I could do,  how the Snowden releases have not been of help to the "terrorists"  (they are really just criminals murdering innocent people)   or government calls for bans on encryption or US government mass surveillance of Americans has been completely useless for deterring the
"terrorists".   Please remember that these attacks are blowback for the US and it's European (and other) puppet lap dog governments attacks on, invasion and occupation of muslim countries that did not attack us in any way.  

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-20/5-myths-regarding-paris-terror-attacks  

It's the psychopathic neo-con CRIMINAL foreign policy the US has been pursuing that is bringing this all about.  This is not to excuse the criminals murdering innocent people in these terrorist attacks,  but perhaps it explains their motivation.

The aj foreign policy is quite simple: do whatever you want to whoever you want AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT UNITED STATE'S INTERESTS. At the moment that your behavior directly impact our interest, you will be nuked. Literally. And you can shove NATO Article V up your ass. And the UN building in NYC will be imploded in 24 hours. Leave.

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Re: Where are the Snowden apologists now? Yes, you, Wiggs.
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2015, 06:42:43 AM »
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