Author Topic: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?  (Read 1937 times)

theworm

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4021
  • Getbig!
What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« on: December 14, 2015, 09:14:05 PM »
Let's say one is concerned about their hair and is stubborn and wants to use steroids regardless


If one did a test only cycle with finasteride, in general, would that lower the cycles efficacy by what percent?  Roughy speaking?  30%?

I thought I read a piece in MD stating that it did not lower lean gains...
you are gay.

ritch

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10673
Re: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2015, 09:40:49 PM »
No idea but that stuff totally killed my libido and I'm always super horny. Took me a long time to pin point what was causing the sides I was feeling. Too bad, as it was filling in the spot in the back of my head!

But if you suddenly feel like not training, having sex and just feel plain miserable all the time for more than 5 days, stop using it.
?

threetrees

  • Getbig II
  • **
  • Posts: 113
Re: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2015, 10:34:44 PM »
Let's say one is concerned about their hair and is stubborn and wants to use steroids regardless


If one did a test only cycle with finasteride, in general, would that lower the cycles efficacy by what percent?  Roughy speaking?  30%?

I thought I read a piece in MD stating that it did not lower lean gains...

I have no experience with finasteride but with dutaseride

while being on dutasteride and experiencing some unwanted body changes i read pretty much about it

people who use/used dutasteride worried themselves about muscle loss etc.
some people claimed they gained muscle (probably water) while others said they lost muscle

what i've also gathered is you don't lose muscle because DHT is not active in the muscle (they backed it up with studies) and it will only lower your ability to resist mental strain while training
lowering your dht will (probably) increase your estrogen thus you will be more watery

now my personal experience was different

I don't use exogenous test. I lost muscle and gained water and i can be absolutely sure about that since i started on a very lean and maxed out basis (training since roughly 9 years). This happened after 2 weeks of using it or at least that's when I noticed it

I not only got more watery but also shrunk half a size or a full size down (judging from my now loose hanging shirts)

So the whole DHT is not active in the muscle doesn't apply to me and going out on a limb here doesn't apply to anyone else as well

the people who gained 'muscle' probably confused it with water

Jizmo

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2855
  • getbigbrah
Re: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2015, 12:08:12 AM »
fuck that shit. dht makes you a man.

if you kill your DHT you might aswell cut off your dick

cant believe people still prefer a head of hair over a working dick  ???

threetrees

  • Getbig II
  • **
  • Posts: 113
Re: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2015, 01:31:24 AM »
fuck that shit. dht makes you a man.

if you kill your DHT you might aswell cut off your dick

cant believe people still prefer a head of hair over a working dick  ???

doesn't affect everyone the same

took dutasteride and letro each a pill/day. dick still worked suprisingly good albeit I'll have to admit not 100%. neglectable tho and far from limp

Jizmo

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2855
  • getbigbrah
Re: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2015, 07:20:33 AM »
doesn't affect everyone the same

took dutasteride and letro each a pill/day. dick still worked suprisingly good albeit I'll have to admit not 100%. neglectable tho and far from limp

dht blockers have killed some guys dicks permanently, even MONTHS and YEARS after usage. read into it.

Disco187

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1051
  • "Fuck Ordinary"
Re: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2015, 08:18:20 AM »
i have yet to hear anyone really say that finasteride really did wonders for them and these were from the average joes.

theworm

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4021
  • Getbig!
Re: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2015, 08:24:54 AM »
dht blockers have killed some guys dicks permanently, even MONTHS and YEARS after usage. read into it.

That's only 1%...  

I think I would want hair...  Been married 14 years, u don't get much anyway!!
you are gay.

Jizmo

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2855
  • getbigbrah
Re: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2015, 11:35:20 AM »
That's only 1%...  

I think I would want hair...  Been married 14 years, u don't get much anyway!!

if you dont get pussy anyway what do you need to look good for lol

pestosterone

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1648
Re: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2015, 12:27:47 PM »
Look just wear a hat and have a hard rod Johnson and nail your wife or somebody else will

theworm

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4021
  • Getbig!
Re: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2015, 02:15:59 PM »
if you dont get pussy anyway what do you need to look good for lol
Lol, good point!
you are gay.

Gainsi

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 374
  • Trensform
Re: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2015, 10:45:25 PM »
Finasteride and Dutasteride both block 5 alpha reductase receptors. Dutast alot more than fina. Dutast does it to such a degree, it could grow your hair back with the proper procedures. But again, you need DHT, it's the most powerful form of testosterone in the body, dihydrotestosterone, why would you want that? I, with horrible skin problems, looked into it to see if it would help, and it's totally not worth it from the things I have read. DHT is responsible for so many things, including muscle hardness. Anyways, that's just my opinion on it.

If you care about your hair, keep away from tren mast winnie, or harsh dht compounds. Keep testosterone at sane dosages, and try to rely more on deca, it's more of an anabolic. Will be much slower to be a baldy this way, but ull become one one day either way whether or not you like it

vascsurgeon

  • Getbig II
  • **
  • Posts: 245
Re: What % does finasteride lower test's effectiveness?
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2015, 08:24:08 AM »
Finasteride can be used with Test, blood work regularly would inform you of DHT levels and dosage could be adjusted accordingly.
When prepping for a contest I would not take it, but, off season its not a bad idea.
Most bodybuilders likely wouldn't agree with me.