Author Topic: Ronnie Coleman - struggle in expressing himself???  (Read 7931 times)

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - struggle in expressing himself???
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2006, 02:55:39 PM »
I see. I confess I have never competed (although I am no slouch myself 8)) and therefore, wouldn't have known this without you pointing it out. I now stand corrected. Thanks mate  :)
No problem bro, but you dont have to compete to know this I didnt explain it all the way. To test this you can lay down and concentrate on a certain bodypart and imagine yourself working it out, do it correctly and when you open your eyes you can see the pump and feel it. If you go back and watch pumping iron you can tell Lou is getting totally obsessed with not feeling adequate enough and not being ready, also with Katz. Today backstage this does not really go on, most bodybuilders psyche themselves out with low self esteem

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - struggle in expressing himself???
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2006, 02:58:11 PM »
Who holds the most endorsements Jay? It used to be Titus

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - struggle in expressing himself???
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2006, 09:12:46 PM »

The filmmakers also talked about how they scripted this Arnold vs Lou thing as sort of a "David vs Goliath" or a kind of an attempt as a "Good vs Bad" scenario - sort of the WWE type of drama. If I recall correctly, they originally wanted to portray the dark, brooding, larger Lou as the "villain", and Arnold as the good guy and underdog. If that was true, it certainly didn't work out that way. For obvious reasons, the exact opposite impression came across on-screen.

Lou even wrote (or more likely had ghostwritten) in his autobiography of some of the unrealistic embellishments of the movie - mainly that the apparent close, supporting relationship he and his father had in the movie was a sham. He claimed that his father was always an obnoxious, psychologically abusive egomaniac who insisted on being part of the movie to satisfy his own selfish desires. Of course I realize that there are two sides to every story, and I tend to take anything Lou says with a grain of salt anyway - for obvious reasons.

In the special features on the 25th Anniversary DVD,  they say that the original storyline was supposed to be about this new wunderkind Lou coming and beating the reigning champ for the Sandow..   However,  they state that as they got closer to the show they realised that Lou wouldn't get anywhere near Arnold so had to 're write' the script and make Arnold the mean guy to make it interesting..

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - struggle in expressing himself???
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2006, 10:01:31 PM »
What is the difference between a university degree and a college degree? ::)

University is research oriented, college is teaching oriented.
At the undergraduate level though, I agree, there isn't an appreciable difference.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - struggle in expressing himself???
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2006, 10:56:52 PM »
Who holds the most endorsements Jay? It used to be Titus

Titus is endorsing the Mexican Mafia nowadays. :-X
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Re: Ronnie Coleman - struggle in expressing himself???
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2006, 10:58:27 PM »
University is research oriented, college is teaching oriented.
At the undergraduate level though, I agree, there isn't an appreciable difference.

  I see what you are saying. I thought universities are just multiple colleges in the same institution.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - struggle in expressing himself???
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2006, 11:06:16 PM »
[I wanted to be politically correct and say “developmentally disabled”. But in Coleman’s case, that would certainly lead to confusion!]

Let me stress right off the bat that this question is not trolling or meant to be disrespectful in any way. I am not making any criticism of Mr. Coleman as a man or as a bodybuilder.

I am only asking because in the two interviews I’ve heard with him, he has seemed to struggle in expressing himself even in short sentences – even with the crutch of interview cliches like “package” and “do what I gotta do”. Also, on Pro Bodybuilding Weekly, Dan Solomon made a vague reference to Coleman’s lack of “marketability” – which seemed like it might be code language for what I’m referring to.

I’ll be the first to volunteer two possible counter-arguments. 1) Athletes as a whole [and perhaps bodybuilders in particular] are not that eloquent – being creatures of body rather than mind. No one ever mistook Michael Jordan for Winston Churchill, either.  2) I believe Coleman was within days of a contest on both occasions – so perhaps it’s to his credit that he was able to say anything at all. [Not having ever dieted for a contest myself, I freely confess my ignorance in this respect.]

Even with that taken into account, the interviews were painfully difficult to listen to. So the strong impression remains. But if I totally have my head up my ass about this, I’m willing to listen.


  Coleman has dyslexia of the mind. The words form in his head, but he's unable to verbalize them. This is why he can only say:"peanut" and "yeah, baby". This form of mental disability is common among those who are of below average intelligence, but not completely retarded(I.Q 70-90. Coleman's is probably around 75).

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - struggle in expressing himself???
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2006, 02:14:06 AM »
Ronnie's intelligence level will probably qualify him for a nice disability pension when he's done bodybuilding.  Lord knows he isnt fit for any work that requires even basic logic or reading comprehension.

  Coleman makes Al Bundy seem like Newton or Descartes, in comparison... ;D

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - struggle in expressing himself???
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2006, 08:09:04 AM »
Ronnie's intelligence level will probably qualify him for a nice disability pension when he's done bodybuilding.  Lord knows he isnt fit for any work that requires even basic logic or reading comprehension.

    Troll ::)

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - struggle in expressing himself???
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2006, 09:42:18 AM »
George W. Bush is quite intelligent

If you're had Colemans IQ,  then that statement would true.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman - struggle in expressing himself???
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2006, 06:34:28 PM »
If you're had Colemans IQ,  then that statement would true.

  I'm sorry, could you reword this so it's comprehensible?