Great movie about Africa

[_aj_]

chinese mine for their own. Not for anybody else, and make it seem like they are helping Africans. And then what happens next? Next up is colonizing it, then human rights abuse. Oh, the whole "please help us from the Chinese". It's like many of you all have never read The Art of War when it refers to deception.

The Europeans sure did mine African "resources"...called their people. Then divided up Africa like slices of pie, and had their own colonies. So, what was the result? In the New World after slavery you had a population that you didn't know what to do with, and in Africa/North Africa you have streams of immigrants now coming back to their colonial "headquarters".

Africans need to learn to stop being everybody's charity case and go to mule. Nobody respects the charity case, nobody respects black Africans, and nobody really likes them, only pretend to like them in order to get what they want.

But, I guess it's ok with you. Mother Africa, used and abused like usual.

I don't know what the solution is. Clearly, Africa is the Cradle of Stupidity. If we built a wall around Africa and ignored it for 50 years, not a single human would be left alive on the continent at the end. Well, fucking Mugabe would probably still be there, surviving on the blood of infants and counting stacks of worthless money.

[Tapeworm]

To be frank (Bad as "In all honesty"?), Boss Chinaman is quite the bullyish grouch. But considering what he's dealing with there, he still doesn't quite hit me as the villain he might be in another setting.

And I'd like to say his pissy attitude wouldn't be tolerated in a developed nation, but haven't we all worked for a guy like this before?

Even dickheads I've worked for had at least something I could see keeping them employed.  The main Chinaman seemed like the wrong man for the job.  Couldn't negotiate or develop working relationships.  Seemingly couldn't even set appointments.  Total rack of nemawashi.  Definitely not a procurement guy. 

Crapping on and on about theft (measuring the fuel in the tank at the day's end, which was pure Captain Queeg) but never suggesting, hey, maybe we outta have a fenced in area to put all our shit in overnight, perhaps locks on things, or a guard.  Real cutting edge security measures. 

Couldn't run people.  They seemed confused about what he wanted them to do.  No systemization.  Good workers do better without it, but it's safer to just define shit clearly and give 'em a little checklist.  Did it?  Tick.  Confirmed.  Ok. /  Did it?  Tick.  Not done.  Fired.

Complaining that black drivers are hard on the trucks yet apparently had hired on no maintenance people at all.  No one to fix something as basic as a tailgate latch.  The last straw for me was when he told the gravel guys that the gravel is all going to spill out and they'll just have to fix the truck. 

I may have melted.  I remember hearing someone yelling.  [You ought to be serving hollow scoops to children down at the 31 Flavors from under a turquoise paper hat!  Holy Moses, how did the other applicants present?  I'd sack that incompetent little asian man so fucking hard he'd be seeing noodles!  Then it's on to Peking toting a kaiser blade to find the one who hired him!  Kubi ni naru, Chumono!  It's your fucking company's truck, you dipshit choge!  Come back when it works, howsabout!]  The cherry on top was when they bash the shit out of it to break the weld at the other end. 

Frankly, they should hire me.  Let the bidding commence.

[phreak]

Even dickheads I've worked for had at least something I could see keeping them employed.  The main Chinaman seemed like the wrong man for the job.  Couldn't negotiate or develop working relationships.  Seemingly couldn't even set appointments.  Total rack of nemawashi.  Definitely not a procurement guy. 

Crapping on and on about theft (measuring the fuel in the tank at the day's end, which was pure Captain Queeg) but never suggesting, hey, maybe we outta have a fenced in area to put all our shit in overnight, perhaps locks on things, or a guard.  Real cutting edge security measures. 

Couldn't run people.  They seemed confused about what he wanted them to do.  No systemization.  Good workers do better without it, but it's safer to just define shit clearly and give 'em a little checklist.  Did it?  Tick.  Confirmed.  Ok. /  Did it?  Tick.  Not done.  Fired.

Complaining that black drivers are hard on the trucks yet apparently had hired on no maintenance people at all.  No one to fix something as basic as a tailgate latch.  The last straw for me was when he told the gravel guys that the gravel is all going to spill out and they'll just have to fix the truck. 

I may have melted.  I remember hearing someone yelling.  [You ought to be serving hollow scoops to children down at the 31 Flavors from under a turquoise paper hat!  Holy Moses, how did the other applicants present?  I'd sack that incompetent little asian man so fucking hard he'd be seeing noodles!  Then it's on to Peking toting a kaiser blade to find the one who hired him!  Kubi ni naru, Chumono!  It's your fucking company's truck, you dipshit choge!  Come back when it works, howsabout!]  The cherry on top was when they bash the shit out of it to break the weld at the other end. 

Frankly, they should hire me.  Let the bidding commence.

I was going to compliment you, but you forgot to bribe them with watermelons.

[phreak]

Yes.

Damn. Must be horrible to see your country go from the jewel of Africa to the shit it is now in. A lot of people complain here about the EU and US, but it's nothing like the downhill slide of SA.

[Tapeworm]

I was going to compliment you, but you forgot to bribe them with watermelons.

Reserved for Tier 2 workers who have proven themselves.  Additionally, they don't live 30 to a tent and sleep on the ground.  28 to a tent, hessian cots.  The space voided by 2 bodies is for the melons.


Tbf, I fucking love a cold watermelon in the heat.  And BBQ ribs are the shit.  Also phat ass white girls.

My inner negro flourisheth.

[Yamcha]

[MANGOOS]

Yes yes, of corse chinese guy is a asshole for being a pedant and telling the truth... not these lazy and stealing cockroaches...

[The Ugly]

chinese mine for their own. Not for anybody else, and make it seem like they are helping Africans. And then what happens next? Next up is colonizing it, then human rights abuse. Oh, the whole "please help us from the Chinese". It's like many of you all have never read The Art of War when it refers to deception.

The Europeans sure did mine African "resources"...called their people. Then divided up Africa like slices of pie, and had their own colonies. So, what was the result? In the New World after slavery you had a population that you didn't know what to do with, and in Africa/North Africa you have streams of immigrants now coming back to their colonial "headquarters".

Africans need to learn to stop being everybody's charity case and go to mule. Nobody respects the charity case, nobody respects black Africans, and nobody really likes them, only pretend to like them in order to get what they want.

But, I guess it's ok with you. Mother Africa, used and abused like usual.

Barely got past "They mine for their own," sorry. Did I miss the part of the film where this was some freebie humanitarian effort? If so, disregard the following:

They employed locals and patronized their useless companies? Contracts fulfilled, compensation allotted, then, per you, Africa fucks Africans. Yet, again, though, China's fault, because "Mother Africa, used and abused like usual." Not sure you're making the best case for sympathy, either, really. Just venom for "users" is all.

Fair enough.

Why, then, doesn't wonderful Mother Africa just rebuild its own infrastructure (since maintaining was obviously outta the question), mine their own shit? Why don't the good ones oust the bad? Why does a civilization as old as mankind itself - with all that time to evolve, to learn, to prosper, to show the species how shit is done - STILL live like this?

Doesn't sound like you pity the poor, primitive tribesmen as much as we should just all despise whomever "exploits" (lucrative contracts/local business, employment aside) this particular, resource-rich continent, whose governments are apparently open for business.

And, yeah, the horror of "colonization" and all, with its modern technology, paved highways, railroads, electricity, and vast employment - sorry, enslavement - of otherwise zero-income idlers. The horror, indeed. Best to let Africa fix Africa, huh?

Sounds like you care about helping 'em about as much as me, friend.

[The Ugly]

Even dickheads I've worked for had at least something I could see keeping them employed.  The main Chinaman seemed like the wrong man for the job.  Couldn't negotiate or develop working relationships.  Seemingly couldn't even set appointments.  Total rack of nemawashi.  Definitely not a procurement guy. 

Crapping on and on about theft (measuring the fuel in the tank at the day's end, which was pure Captain Queeg) but never suggesting, hey, maybe we outta have a fenced in area to put all our shit in overnight, perhaps locks on things, or a guard.  Real cutting edge security measures. 

Couldn't run people.  They seemed confused about what he wanted them to do.  No systemization.  Good workers do better without it, but it's safer to just define shit clearly and give 'em a little checklist.  Did it?  Tick.  Confirmed.  Ok. /  Did it?  Tick.  Not done.  Fired.

Complaining that black drivers are hard on the trucks yet apparently had hired on no maintenance people at all.  No one to fix something as basic as a tailgate latch.  The last straw for me was when he told the gravel guys that the gravel is all going to spill out and they'll just have to fix the truck. 

I may have melted.  I remember hearing someone yelling.  [You ought to be serving hollow scoops to children down at the 31 Flavors from under a turquoise paper hat!  Holy Moses, how did the other applicants present?  I'd sack that incompetent little asian man so fucking hard he'd be seeing noodles!  Then it's on to Peking toting a kaiser blade to find the one who hired him!  Kubi ni naru, Chumono!  It's your fucking company's truck, you dipshit choge!  Come back when it works, howsabout!]  The cherry on top was when they bash the shit out of it to break the weld at the other end. 

Frankly, they should hire me.  Let the bidding commence.

Excellent points, Shakespearean eloquence. Per usual.

[Coffeed]

It was interesting how pissed this guy was that the country let the infrastructure like that railroad just go to rubble.

It's like he genuinely was hurt by it.

I can certainly try to empathize with both parties, but it's easy to see how it looks like a man trying to herd cats. How do you make people simply give a damn? Can you?

[hardgainerj]

Even dickheads I've worked for had at least something I could see keeping them employed.  The main Chinaman seemed like the wrong man for the job.  Couldn't negotiate or develop working relationships.  Seemingly couldn't even set appointments.  Total rack of nemawashi.  Definitely not a procurement guy. 

Crapping on and on about theft (measuring the fuel in the tank at the day's end, which was pure Captain Queeg) but never suggesting, hey, maybe we outta have a fenced in area to put all our shit in overnight, perhaps locks on things, or a guard.  Real cutting edge security measures. 

Couldn't run people.  They seemed confused about what he wanted them to do.  No systemization.  Good workers do better without it, but it's safer to just define shit clearly and give 'em a little checklist.  Did it?  Tick.  Confirmed.  Ok. /  Did it?  Tick.  Not done.  Fired.

Complaining that black drivers are hard on the trucks yet apparently had hired on no maintenance people at all.  No one to fix something as basic as a tailgate latch.  The last straw for me was when he told the gravel guys that the gravel is all going to spill out and they'll just have to fix the truck. 

I may have melted.  I remember hearing someone yelling.  [You ought to be serving hollow scoops to children down at the 31 Flavors from under a turquoise paper hat!  Holy Moses, how did the other applicants present?  I'd sack that incompetent little asian man so fucking hard he'd be seeing noodles!  Then it's on to Peking toting a kaiser blade to find the one who hired him!  Kubi ni naru, Chumono!  It's your fucking company's truck, you dipshit choge!  Come back when it works, howsabout!]  The cherry on top was when they bash the shit out of it to break the weld at the other end. 

Frankly, they should hire me.  Let the bidding commence.

good post tw

[hardgainerj]

Why, then, doesn't wonderful Mother Africa just rebuild its own infrastructure (since maintaining was obviously outta the question), mine their own shit? Why don't the good ones oust the bad? Why does a civilization as old as mankind itself - with all that time to evolve, to learn, to prosper, to show the species how shit is done - STILL live like this?

why do people like lumumba get wacked?

[The Ugly]

why do people like lumumba get wacked?

Fifty-five years ago, shall we debate the assassinations of JFK, RFK, and MLK as well?

More importantly, where's today's Lumumba or all the Lumbumbas since '61?

[Palumboism]

Even dickheads I've worked for had at least something I could see keeping them employed.  The main Chinaman seemed like the wrong man for the job.  Couldn't negotiate or develop working relationships.  Seemingly couldn't even set appointments.  Total rack of nemawashi.  Definitely not a procurement guy. 

I don't think Lao Yang is the doofus people are making him out to be.  He's head of logistics for the largest rail engineering and construction company in China.  This is a $6 Billion dollar project to construct 2,000 miles of roads and 1,800 miles of railway tracks in Africa.  

The Congolese government was supposed to deliver equipment, building materials and food, but nothing arrived, so he was forced to leave the camp and find everything for himself.

He doesn't suffer fools lightly, sounds like half the people on Getbig.

http://archived.thisisafrica.me/visual-arts/detail/19453/empire-of-dust-a-chinese-congolese-culture-clash

http://china-africa-reporting.co.za/2014/02/angolas-chinese-built-rail-link-and-the-scramble-to-access-the-regions-resources/

[Tapeworm]

I don't think Lao Yang is the doofus people are making him out to be.  He's head of logistics for the largest rail engineering and construction company in China.  

I don't want to be unfair to him.  How things get done isn't something that a What & When Executive of his position should have to be troubled about.  I'm sure he's an absolute weapon when it comes to arbitrarily nominating deadlines and summing up spreadsheet columns.  

As soon as they get him a desk to sit behind all day, shit's really going to start happening.

[Griffith]

Damn. Must be horrible to see your country go from the jewel of Africa to the shit it is now in. A lot of people complain here about the EU and US, but it's nothing like the downhill slide of SA.

The worst is worrying about currency devaluation and exchange rate volatility.

I actually did live in the UK for almost ten years and came back and despite the problems I still prefer living in SA.

Thankfully the world has woken up to nature of the ANC regime and they are going downhill too, only a matter of time before they lose more regions.

[The Ugly]

The worst is worrying about currency devaluation and exchange rate volatility.

I actually did live in the UK for almost ten years and came back and despite the problems I still prefer living in SA.

Thankfully the world has woken up to nature of the ANC regime and they are going downhill too, only a matter of time before they lose more regions.

At least they ended that nasty apartheid, right? Hell, I ain't gonna play Sun City!

[Griffith]

At least they ended that nasty apartheid, though, right? Hell, I ain't gonna play Sun City!

They didn't end Apartheid, there was a referendum and 70% of whites voted to have negotiations to allow majority rule.

But that's the past, what matters is now and the future.

[The Ugly]

They didn't end Apartheid, there was a referendum and 70% of whites voted to have negotiations to allow majority rule.

The hell you say! Nelson Mandela. Early 90s, remember? There was a concert. Jackson Browne, Lou Reed. Peter Gabriel. Neil fucking Young. Sanctions and shit. Nobel Peace Prize.

Made all the papers, what'd I miss?

[bishamonten]

Hopefully, they will be violently kicked out.

shut the fuck up sambo
go paint your face and chuck spears

[Griffith]

What are ya talking about? Nelson Mandela. Early 90s, remember? There was a concert. Jackson Browne, Lou Reed, Peter Gabriel. Neil fucking Young. Sanctions and shit. Nobel Peace Prize.

Made all the papers, what'd I miss?

There were two referendums, one in the late 80's and one in 1992.