Sweden again:cop says somalian murderer is the realvictim

[Fortress]

I agree white people should reclaim their countries. However the flooding of white countries is not because of stupidity by politicians. I mean what are the chances that politicians in USA, Canada, and all of Europe all fall for this diversity / multicultural scam and still keeps falling for it after it has been shown time and time again that it weakens the countries? Why are there virtually no influential politician coming out against it?

The reason is because they are bought and paid for and it would be career suicide for them to come out against it.

Same thing goes for the media. Why are respected journalists not being critical of the failure of diversity and doing major articles on the rape and murders these filthy invaders are committing? You'd think they would jump at the opportunity to cover these events since they are supposedly driven by delivering the news and events as they happen and inform the public. Why? Because it would be career suicide. The media companies are owned by a few elites and they have made it clear that political correctness is required by journalists if they wish to maintain their jobs.

What about the police? In the UK, Sweden and Germany the police are trained to be political correct. If the criminal is non-white they are told to back down. Or else lose your job. That is why they looked the other way when those underage girls were raped in Rotherham. And why they failed to water cannon the rapists in Cologne.

They are all bought and paid for.

The solution is to go after the elites and bribed politicians. They have all committed treason or are war criminals in the case of elite that influenced foreign white countries.

They should be publicly executed. Political correctness should be outlawed and made a punishable offense.

Immigrants that were brought in by traitors should be removed from all white countries. They were brought in illegally as invaders / foot soldiers.

The traitors that are not executed should be expelled from their countries as well and made to live in third world countries with their immigrants. Their children shall go to school with them, and their daughters shall be forced to marry these immigrants.

Great points/considerations.

The corruption of this world is staggering, to say the least.

[SF1900]

I am not opposed to multi-culturalism. My neighborhood in NYC is primarily Indian (suburban area of NYC). I have no problem with this. I get along with all my neighbors. They have every right to buy a home in any neighborhood.Never an issue. There is pretty much zero crime in my neighborhood.

The difference with the above scenario and the refugee crisis, is that governments are forcing this integration in people's faces. You can't force multiculturalism, because its just going to make people angry. If people are going to mingle with people of different races, cultures, and ethnicity, it has to be a natural process.

From a psychological perspective, its cognitively and emotionally overwhelming for the average citizen to have to contend with millions of immigrants coming in. They are scared themselves, they do not know what to make of it, etc. This is much different than one or 2 families moving into a neighborhood and slowly integrating themselves into that neighborhood, as opposed to just taking in hundreds of thousands (maybe even millions), and telling citizens, "deal with it."

[Papper]

I am not opposed to multi-culturalism. My neighborhood in NYC is primarily Indian (suburban area of NYC). I have no problem with this. I get along with all my neighbors. They have every right to buy a home in any neighborhood.Never an issue. There is pretty much zero crime in my neighborhood.

The difference with the above scenario and the refugee crisis, is that governments are forcing this integration in people's faces. You can't force multiculturalism, because its just going to make people angry. If people are going to mingle with people of different races, cultures, and ethnicity, it has to be a natural process.

From a psychological perspective, its cognitively and emotionally overwhelming for the average citizen to have to contend with millions of immigrants coming in. They are scared themselves, they do not know what to make of it, etc. This is much different than one or 2 families moving into a neighborhood and slowly integrating themselves into that neighborhood, as opposed to just taking in hundreds of thousands (maybe even millions), and telling citizens, "deal with it."

But multiculturalism is when you let different groups have different "cultures", which causes segregation.

I'm not opposed to immigration, but I think the best is that you have an uniting culture that makes everyone feel safe, friendly and at home.

Also, the pace that it happens in Sweden is staggering. That coupled with the government forcing it on the people, will result in segregation and violence.

[SF1900]

But multiculturalism is when you let different groups have different "cultures", which causes segregation.

I'm not opposed to immigration, but I think the best is that you have an uniting culture that makes everyone feel safe, friendly and at home.

Also, the pace that it happens in Sweden is staggering. That coupled with the government forcing it on the people, will result in segregation and violence.

NYC is a melting pot of multiculturalism. There are many different neighborhoods, in which people practice their own individual cultures and/or religions. Jewish people go to Temple, Christians go to Church. Heck, there is even a Buddhist temple not too far from my home.

This is the thing: People can practice their own culture and/or religion, while still being connected to a larger culture. People can attend their place of worship, cook their native food in their own home, hang out with their own kind, etc. However, when they leave their home and interact among people of different cultures, races, or religion, they have the ability to then adapt to that norm. People often have multiple selves.

Its implausible to assume there will be one uniting culture. People will practice their religion/culture in their own homes and places of worship. However, as stated above, most will adapt when they leave their home. Thus, you can have multiculturalism, as long as people are going to respect other cultures when they leave their homes or places of worship. In my neighborhood, its never been a problem. As stated, there is almost zero crime.

Perfect example: A friend of mine is Indian. He attend a predominantly Indian place of worship, eats Indian food, prays to his Indian Gods, and celebrates many traditions associated with his culture. However, when he is with his friends or at work, he adapts to the larger American culture. As such, he has been able to hang onto his own culture, while still adapting to a larger system of values (American).

[Papper]

NYC is a melting pot of multiculturalism. There are many different neighborhoods, in which people practice their own individual cultures and/or religions. Jewish people go to Temple, Christians go to Church. Heck, there is even a Buddhist temple not too far from my home.

This is the thing: People can practice their own culture and/or religion, while still being connected to a larger culture. People can attend their place of worship, cook their native food in their own home, hang out with their own kind, etc. However, when they leave their home and interact among people of different cultures, races, or religion, they have the ability to then adapt to that norm. People often have multiple selves.

Its implausible to assume there will be one uniting culture. People will practice their religion/culture in their own homes and places of worship. However, as stated above, most will adapt when they leave their home. Thus, you can have multiculturalism, as long as people are going to respect other cultures when they leave their homes or places of worship. In my neighborhood, its never been a problem. As stated, there is almost zero crime.

Perfect example: A friend of mine is Indian. He attend a predominantly Indian place of worship, eats Indian food, prays to his Indian Gods, and celebrates many traditions associated with his culture. However, when he is with his friends or at work, he adapts to the larger American culture. As such, he has been able to hang onto his own culture, while still adapting to a larger system of values (American).

Yes, it surely CAN work. But I prefer a homogeneous society, and I suspect many other Swedes do.

It may work where you live, but I really think people want to "feel at home" and with people they connect with on a cultural and behavioral level.

There is a known study on trust within communities, diversified compared to monoethnic. People don't like it (like you could have guessed easily). People tend to stay with their own, especially when they are not really welcomed and effectively integrated (and they need to want this too).

It's pretty obvious even in your own description, you see him as Indian, not as a American, but you both are supposed to be.

But the larger issue is with Islam and its people and its origins in a far-away middle age type culture. When the cultures are so far apart, like Swedish secularism and hardcore Muslims, the clashes really start. Food, special rights, treatment of animals. Alcohol. Language. Views on women, violence.

These people seem VERY opposed to becoming Swedes at all, they want to (-or like I fear, unwillingly and AUTOMATICALLY do-) move the middle east into their own neighborhoods right here in our country, and it sucks that they are allowed to.

It's not like they do their little prayers and go to a mosque now and then, and then adapts like your Indian friend, their very different view on society affects us. And that's not even talking about how they affect us economically, I'm just on the cultural aspect here.

[Fortress]

But the larger issue is with Islam and its people and its origins in a far-away middle age type culture. When the cultures are so far apart, like Swedish secularism and hardcore Muslims, the clashes really start. Food, special rights, treatment of animals. Alcohol. Language. Views on women, violence.

These people seem VERY opposed to becoming Swedes at all, they want to (-or like I fear, unwillingly and AUTOMATICALLY do-) move the middle east into their own neighborhoods right here in our country, and it sucks that they are allowed to.

It's not like they do their little prayers and go to a mosque now and then, and then adapts like your Indian friend, their very different view on society affects us. And that's not even talking about how they affect us economically, I'm just on the cultural aspect here.

Spot-on.

[Kwon_2]

They want their Sharia-Law to be applied wherever they move and even surpass/outperform the normal "man made" Law of that country.

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[The Abdominal Snoman]

They want their Sharia-Law to be applied wherever they move and even surpass/outperform the normal "man made" Law of that country.

Yup and the extreme left think they can hold up signs saying "free hugs" and that will stop them. They only stop holding free hugs signs when their kids are raped or killed...But then the next delusional mommies boy steps in to their spot...

[SF1900]

Yes, it surely CAN work. But I prefer a homogeneous society, and I suspect many other Swedes do.

It may work where you live, but I really think people want to "feel at home" and with people they connect with on a cultural and behavioral level.

There is a known study on trust within communities, diversified compared to monoethnic. People don't like it (like you could have guessed easily). People tend to stay with their own, especially when they are not really welcomed and effectively integrated (and they need to want this too).

It's pretty obvious even in your own description, you see him as Indian, not as a American, but you both are supposed to be.

But the larger issue is with Islam and its people and its origins in a far-away middle age type culture. When the cultures are so far apart, like Swedish secularism and hardcore Muslims, the clashes really start. Food, special rights, treatment of animals. Alcohol. Language. Views on women, violence.

These people seem VERY opposed to becoming Swedes at all, they want to (-or like I fear, unwillingly and AUTOMATICALLY do-) move the middle east into their own neighborhoods right here in our country, and it sucks that they are allowed to.

It's not like they do their little prayers and go to a mosque now and then, and then adapts like your Indian friend, their very different view on society affects us. And that's not even talking about how they affect us economically, I'm just on the cultural aspect here.

I will respond to one point real quick (then respond more thoroughly later). Yes, I do see him as Indian because he practices  many traditions associated with his culture. But he also practices many American traditions. So, I do consider him American. Perhaps he is an Indian American? Many people are "bi-cultural."

It is NOT uncommon for people to practice two cultural beliefs. That is what America is all about: freedom of expression, which includes an individuals right to practice what they choose to practice. But that is the problem with America: we say people have the right to express themselves as they wish and practice their own cultural and religious beliefs, but then we want them to identify as only American. How does that work? How can we support someones right to practice whatever they want to, but then expect them to only adhere to the American culture? Its quite a contradiction.

People do have MULTIPLE selves, and these selves sometimes consist of different cultural beliefs.

I appreciate the back-and-forth in a calm, respectful manner. It rarely happens on getbig.

[Papper]

I will respond to one point real quick (then respond more thoroughly later). Yes, I do see him as Indian because he practices  many traditions associated with his culture. But he also practices many American traditions. So, I do consider him American. Perhaps he is an Indian American? Many people are "bi-cultural."

It is NOT uncommon for people to practice two cultural beliefs. That is what America is all about: freedom of expression, which includes an individuals right to practice what they choose to practice. But that is the problem with America: we say people have the right to express themselves as they wish and practice their own cultural and religious beliefs, but then we want them to identify as only American. How does that work? How can we support someones right to practice whatever they want to, but then expect them to only adhere to the American culture? Its quite a contradiction.

People do have MULTIPLE selves, and these selves sometimes consist of different cultural beliefs.

I appreciate the back-and-forth in a calm, respectful manner. It rarely happens on getbig.

On an individual level, you can have different identities.

The problem is not how one person identifies himself, the problem is what is happening now in Sweden.

It is a larger issue than religion or cultural identity. The idea of multiculturalism leads to serious problems for everyone here, including the immigrants. Like I said, Us and Sweden are different.

to go from a monoethnic society to a "multicultural" one (meaning dividing society into different racial/cultural groups) in just decades ... is MENTAL!