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Re: Jonah Lomu killed by creatine?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2016, 03:55:58 AM »
Last time a claim of this sort was posted in getbig, it generated one epic thread. Can't find it though. Some serious laughs on it, skipped ab workout for a week.

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Re: Jonah Lomu killed by creatine?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2016, 04:17:24 AM »
This hit him:


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Re: Jonah Lomu killed by creatine?
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2016, 04:19:35 AM »
It wouldn't surprise me if we have no idea the effects of creatine on people with very rare disorders like this "nephrotic syndrome".

Be Occam's Razor suggests that this story is BS.

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Re: Jonah Lomu killed by creatine?
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2016, 04:22:15 AM »
I would say a combination of being on roids for long periods, plus injecting pain killers and other items. Also prone to it genetically.

Nasser always did say on here the worst effects came from taking roids and rec drugs. The other shit he would have been on qualifies as that.

Creatine does nothing it's rubbish. Lets see the former All Black come out and say what else he was on first.

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Re: Jonah Lomu killed by creatine?
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2016, 05:22:09 AM »
I would say a combination of being on roids for long periods, plus injecting pain killers and other items. Also prone to it genetically.

Nasser always did say on here the worst effects came from taking roids and rec drugs. The other shit he would have been on qualifies as that.

Creatine does nothing it's rubbish. Lets see the former All Black come out and say what else he was on first.

Totally disagree with that statement.

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Re: Jonah Lomu killed by creatine?
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2016, 05:28:35 AM »
Creatinine would be bad for someone with kidney problems.

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Re: Jonah Lomu killed by creatine?
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2016, 05:29:22 AM »
I would say a combination of being on roids for long periods, plus injecting pain killers and other items. Also prone to it genetically.

Nasser always did say on here the worst effects came from taking roids and rec drugs. The other shit he would have been on qualifies as that.

Creatine does nothing it's rubbish. Lets see the former All Black come out and say what else he was on first.

One of Nasser "versions" said that steroids were good for health actually.

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Re: Jonah Lomu killed by creatine?
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2016, 10:49:58 AM »
Lets see the former All Black come out and say what else he was on first.

Now that would be a neat trick.

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Re: Jonah Lomu killed by creatine?
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2016, 10:58:13 AM »
I had to double check the year on this thread.

Is this real fucking life we question the safety of creatine?

As if the use of it by 2.7 billion teenage boys since the early 90's is not enough "proof?"

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Re: Jonah Lomu killed by creatine?
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2016, 11:32:26 AM »
I had to double check the year on this thread.

Is this real fucking life we question the safety of creatine?

As if the use of it by 2.7 billion teenage boys since the early 90's is not enough "proof?"

it's retarded, red meat has a sig amt of creatine.

In disease states sure, but it's not hard on the kidney's otherwise.
Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2002 Dec;12(4):453-60.
Effects of long-term creatine supplementation on liver and kidney functions in American college football players.
Mayhew DL1, Mayhew JL, Ware JS.
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The purpose of this study was to determine the effect of long-term Cr supplementation on blood parameters reflecting liver and kidney function. Twenty-three members of an NCAA Division II American football team (ages = 19-24 years) with at least 2 years of strength training experience were divided into a Cr monohydrate group (CrM, n = 10) in which they voluntarily and spontaneously ingested creatine, and a control group (n = 13) in which they took no supplements. Individuals in the CrM group averaged regular daily consumption of 5 to 20 g (mean SD = 13.9 5.8 g) for 0.25 to 5.6 years (2.9 1.8 years). Venous blood analysis for serum albumin, alkaline phosphatase, alanine aminotransferase, aspartate aminotransferase, bilirubin, urea, and creatinine produced no significant differences between groups. Creatinine clearance was estimated from serum creatinine and was not significantly different between groups. Within the CrM group, correlations between all blood parameters and either daily dosage or duration of supplementation were nonsignificant. Therefore, it appears that oral supplementation with CrM has no long-term detrimental effects on kidney or liver functions in highly trained college athletes in the absence of other nutritional supplements.

In fact, it does not impair kidney function in healthy people at all.

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Re: Jonah Lomu killed by creatine?
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2016, 02:03:56 PM »
One of Nasser "versions" said that steroids were good for health actually.

I said mixing them together. He said roids alone wasn't the problem it was taking other things on top.