Dallas Shooter Vs Robot GRAPHIC

[Dave D]

Fucking badge lickers here welcoming martial law and police state praising this sort of behaviour. Good on you...

LOL do you really think any government isn't in complete control?

Do you think the lunatic gunman should have been arrested and given a trial?

[Danjo]

You're an absolute bozo.

It's not like cops are going around blasting folks who are minding their own business, obeying the law. Decent people without rap sheets a mile long.

Get a grip.

This^^ times a million.

[chixlegs]

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This is fucking hysterical.  This whole post has some funny motherfuckers on it.  Well covered by Get big, so much better than the media.  The one with the robot that says black robot lives matter was funny as fuck too.  You guys kill me on this website.

[chixlegs]

Black Robots Matter (by the way, this robot owes $25,000 in child support)

I love this.  Literally fucking laughed out loud.

[SF1900]

it was 1 bad guy, confined and killing cops... he wasn't coming out alive, no matter what.

the issue with explosives is they have to be able to see every inch of the place before using it.  If some kid is hiding from the gun battle under a couch and they blow him up too, it's a huge deal.  But if they know he's alone, and they're already justified to deliver lead at 1000 fps... nothing wrong with using an explosive to deliver the same deadly force.

In the old days, wouldn't they just rev up the ol' Dodge Dart Swinger and ram his ass thru the wall at 60 mph?

240, I have a question for you.

You stated that there was no way he was coming out alive. However, lets say the guy posed no more threat, do you think the cops would have removed him peacefully? Or, do you think they would have found an excuse to kill me? I am no expert, but according to the law, cops cannot use lethal force if there life is not at risk. Thus, if this sniper did not pose any more danger, do you think the cops would have followed the law and took him in without incident? Or, do you think they would have found a way to kill him?

[SF1900]

Conker what exactly is your point/purpose?

You think the gunman made the cops look bad because he killed multiple  people before they used whatever means necessary to kill him?  

Are you upset that they didn't "play by the same rules as the gunman"? The shooter knew he was committing suicide.

Arguing semantics with ND will get 5000 pages. You're either stupid or working as an excellent troll.

I'm serious about finding out your point bro.

ND is a great getbigger. He has 100% proved that h can argue for 1600+ pages about the same topic.  

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=69359.0

[The True Adonis]

240, I have a question for you.

You stated that there was no way he was coming out alive. However, lets say the guy posed no more threat, do you think the cops would have removed him peacefully? Or, do you think they would have found an excuse to kill me? I am no expert, but according to the law, cops cannot use lethal force if there life is not at risk. Thus, if this sniper did not pose any more danger, do you think the cops would have followed the law and took him in without incident? Or, do you think they would have found a way to kill him?

They would have taken him alive for sure.  Remember that white weirdo who liked to play dress up in Cold War Serbian uniforms in Pennsylvania.  He gunned down officers, went on the run and they took him alive.  Why would this be any different?

[240 is Back]

240, I have a question for you.

You stated that there was no way he was coming out alive. However, lets say the guy posed no more threat, do you think the cops would have removed him peacefully? Or, do you think they would have found an excuse to kill me? I am no expert, but according to the law, cops cannot use lethal force if there life is not at risk. Thus, if this sniper did not pose any more danger, do you think the cops would have followed the law and took him in without incident? Or, do you think they would have found a way to kill him?

think back to that chris dorner attack.  


IMO, in this case, UNLESS they're wearing body cameras or the media is zoomed in on them -

I think they shoot him on sight, even if hands are empty.  "He made a move" and they put 50 bullets in him.  

They don't want this man alive, after he just put bullets into 11 or 12 cops in front of their eyes.   No way he comes in alive, even if he throws out the gun and calls CNN to tell them he gives up.  "he made a move" would be the outcome.  


A man shoots a dozen cops... IN texas...

[SF1900]

They would have taken him alive for sure.  Remember that white weirdo who liked to play dress up in Cold War Serbian uniforms in Pennsylvania.  He gunned down officers, went on the run and they took him alive.  Why would this be any different?

More emotionality surrounding these events as of late.

[SF1900]

think back to that chris dorner attack.  


IMO, in this case, UNLESS they're wearing body cameras or the media is zoomed in on them -

I think they shoot him on sight, even if hands are empty.  "He made a move" and they put 50 bullets in him.  

They don't want this man alive, after he just put bullets into 11 or 12 cops in front of their eyes.   No way he comes in alive, even if he throws out the gun and calls CNN to tell them he gives up.  "he made a move" would be the outcome.  


A man shoots a dozen cops... IN texas...

Interesting points, 240.

However, it appears that TA disagrees with you.

I mean, its impossible to say what would have happened if he would have surrendered.

[BB]

More emotionality surrounding these events as of late.

Eric Frein, the PA shooter was caught unarmed. If he was holed up, still willing to engage in a gunfight (and perhaps a suicide bombing) like the Dallas shooter was, he'd have got blasted too.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Frein .

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Also, the two NY prison escapees from last year, they showed a willingness to fight it out with the cops too, and they were shot, and one killed.

White, Black, whatever. You fight it out with the cops, you might be leaving in a bag.

[240 is Back]

Interesting points, 240.
However, it appears that TA disagrees with you.
I mean, its impossible to say what would have happened if he would have surrendered.

i dont' think they shoot him down in the street, with hands up, cameras on.

Do I think - if they catch him up against a wall, saying "Okay, okay, I surrender", after he just killed one more of their friends in the pursuit, and he gives up - if they're all alone in that room... they plug him.  They waste him.



Concerning here is the fact people were still in the building.  Cops evacuated them AFTER they blew up the bomb.

[SF1900]

Eric Frein, the PA shooter was caught unarmed. If he was holed up, still willing to engage in a gunfight (and perhaps a suicide bombing) like the Dallas shooter was, he'd have got blasted too.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Frein .

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Also, the two NY prison escapees from last year, they showed a willingness to fight it out with the cops too, and they were shot, and one killed.

White, Black, whatever. You fight it out with the cops, you might be leaving in a bag.

Not if you're a getbigger:

Black belt in 5 different martial arts
Hand-to-hand combat expert
Master gun smith
Knife wielding expert
Stealth capabilities

[SF1900]

i dont' think they shoot him down in the street, with hands up, cameras on.

Do I think - if they catch him up against a wall, saying "Okay, okay, I surrender", after he just killed one more of their friends in the pursuit, and he gives up - if they're all alone in that room... they plug him.  They waste him.



Concerning here is the fact people were still in the building.  Cops evacuated them AFTER they blew up the bomb.

240, are you saying that cops blew up the bomb while law abiding citizens were still in the building?

[BB]

Do I think - if they catch him up against a wall, saying "Okay, okay, I surrender", after he just killed one more of their friends in the pursuit, and he gives up - if they're all alone in that room... they plug him.  They waste him.

Not so sure of that, Bucky Phillips is a famous case -

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_"Bucky"_Phillips.

Also, there's around 150 cops shot and killed annually(give or take) - http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html . I'm sure many of the suspects are captured in ways where they could probably rig it to be clean shoots if the police wanted to kill them, but it just doesn't happen all that often. The era of throw down pieces, etc.... is long over.

[240 is Back]

Not so sure of that, Bucky Phillips is a famous case -

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_"Bucky"_Phillips.

Also, there's around 150 cops shot and killed annually(give or take) - http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html . I'm sure many of the suspects are captured in ways where they could probably rig it to be clean shoots if the police wanted to kill them, but it just doesn't happen all that often. The era of throw down pieces, etc.... is long over.

He just fired on them in cold blood.  He just shot one of them on the street, as we saw in the video, and walked up and gave him the headshot to finish him.  Then he took out 1 more when they found him, I thought I heard?

If there is no eyes on them, they see him, and they shoot, whether he's holding a gun, his dick, or nothing at all, they see his body, they end him.  I'd bet the rent on that one, if I had to bet either way.

240, are you saying that cops blew up the bomb while law abiding citizens were still in the building?

YES.  I heard it today on CNN.   "Luckily, the people were safely evacuated after the bomb exploded, but they were okay".  I'm sure the link is out there, it was a minor detail but one that stood out to me.

[SF1900]

He just fired on them in cold blood.  He just shot one of them on the street, as we saw in the video, and walked up and gave him the headshot to finish him.  Then he took out 1 more when they found him, I thought I heard?

If there is no eyes on them, they see him, and they shoot, whether he's holding a gun, his dick, or nothing at all, they see his body, they end him.  I'd bet the rent on that one, if I had to bet either way.


YES.  I heard it today on CNN.   "Luckily, the people were safely evacuated after the bomb exploded, but they were okay".  I'm sure the link is out there, it was a minor detail but one that stood out to me.

Ahhh, thanks for that important detail, 240. I did not know that. I guess the cops thought that the bomb would not hurt any innocent civilians. I guess they figured it was worth the chance.

[240 is Back]

Ahhh, thanks for that important detail, 240. I did not know that. I guess the cops thought that the bomb would not hurt any innocent civilians. I guess they figured it was worth the chance.

it worked out well.  I dont know the size of the bomb.  The police quickly assured everyone it was okay because nobody was hurt by the bomb.

but that fact remains... the bomb went off in a building where the shooter wasn't the only person.  Worked out for everyone, but if this becomes a regular practice, blowing up bad guys, there can be a lot of bad consequences. 

[BB]

it worked out well.  I dont know the size of the bomb.  The police quickly assured everyone it was okay because nobody was hurt by the bomb.

but that fact remains... the bomb went off in a building where the shooter wasn't the only person.  Worked out for everyone, but if this becomes a regular practice, blowing up bad guys, there can be a lot of bad consequences.  

It was a pound(ish) quantity of C4. Which according to various bomb techs was enough to handle the room, but not much, if anything outside of it.

[Fortress]

I'd kill for HD footage of Officer Johnny 5 delivering the bomb.

"Special delivery for you, good sir!"

*BOOM!*

Johnny 5 trucking back outta the scene with bloody carnage hanging all over him.

 

[240 is Back]

It was a pound(ish) quantity of C4. Which according to various bomb techs was enough to handle the room, but not much, if anything outside of it.

in that case, bombs away!   screw that guy.

Gotta be careful going fwd.   Some local yokels in hick towns start doing this, and amateur hour can get bloody very quickly. 

[mr.turbo]

conker is on to something

and so is ND

my two cents is without spending 10 mins looking into it

there is a possibility that both you fellas are correct

seems we have reports of both a gunman and a sniper

again, without spending 5 mins analysing it, that tells me there's a possibility of multiple shooters.

 

[240 is Back]

It was a pound(ish) quantity of C4. Which according to various bomb techs was enough to handle the room, but not much, if anything outside of it.

OMG, I just watched CNN have an expert do a re-enactment.  1 pound of C4 was applied to a wall of concrete blocks, as was the case when they killed the shooter.   He never saw it coming... they killed him thru a wall, cool.

The wall was demolished, and the debris was fired over 100 yards - concrete and steel fragments became weapons that would have cut down anything human for 100 yards.

The shock wave was LESS damaging because it was outside, but inside, it would have been much greater without the open air to end it.

Cops are hella lucky the people in the building weren't killed.  A pound of C4 probably leveled every room on that floor.  Not a tactic I'd use regularly.

[Nails]

 Wont be long long before they use RPGs to end high pursue car chases

[visualizeperfection]

OMG, I just watched CNN have an expert do a re-enactment.  1 pound of C4 was applied to a wall of concrete blocks, as was the case when they killed the shooter.   He never saw it coming... they killed him thru a wall, cool.

The wall was demolished, and the debris was fired over 100 yards - concrete and steel fragments became weapons that would have cut down anything human for 100 yards.

The shock wave was LESS damaging because it was outside, but inside, it would have been much greater without the open air to end it.

Cops are hella lucky the people in the building weren't killed.  A pound of C4 probably leveled every room on that floor.  Not a tactic I'd use regularly.

We have to keep in mind you will likely never make an important decision. And also keep in mind your opinion means "fuck all" outside of getbig.