Why don't IFFB Pro's Train People?

[Al Doggity]

OnLine Videos? Exactly What Was It That You've Learned From OnLine Videos?

How to military press properly.

I didn't quite get the hang of it when I was in the Navy.

[Erik C]

How to military press properly.

I didn't quite get the hang of it when I was in the Navy.

If You Learned How To Do It From An OnLine Video, Then You Still Don't Know How To Do It Right.

[Coach is Back!]

......probably because there are no "IFFB" pro's

[BBSSchlemiel]

If You Learned How To Do It From An OnLine Video, Then You Still Don't Know How To Do It Right.

There are plenty of guys strong as hell showing proper form for this life online, including Paul CArter, Jim Wendler, and Christian Thibaudeu. Not to mention a ton of articles on the lift.

[NelsonMuntz]

How to military press properly.

I didn't quite get the hang of it when I was in the Navy.

at least you didnt have to go through your #my personal hell like this guy 

[Erik C]

There are plenty of guys strong as hell showing proper form for this life online, including Paul CArter, Jim Wendler, and Christian Thibaudeu. Not to mention a ton of articles on the lift.

And If One Of Those Guys, Who Really Does Know How To Lift, On YouTube, Would Come Over To Your Gym, And Watch You Lift, And Critique Your Form, To Show You What You Are Doing Wrong, Then Maybe You'll Learn To Lift Correctly Too. And That Goes Double For The Military Press.

[Grape Ape]

Most " regular"  joes and janes   who get personal trainers are looking more for motivation than anything else.

As for knowing everything after 1 month? I've been working out for nearly 20 years and there's still stuff I experiment with and learn from online videos and articles.

x2.

The occasional PT session is motivating and there's always more to learn.

Heck, when I did re-hab for my knee, the PT specialized in strongman and HS athletic enhancement.   Totally changed everything for me.

[Al Doggity]

at least you didnt have to go through your #my personal hell like this guy  

Just to be clear, I was never in the Navy. It was a joke referencing something that triggered a massive meltdown for Erik C about a year and a half ago.

As for specific things I picked up online that I did not know my first month of training?  A few things that come to mind: the pre-exhaust principle, something I heard mentioned in an Aaron Clark video not more than 2 years ago, but I now institute it in my workouts and it has had a big impact. I learned about front squats online. This was years ago, but I  almost never see guys do these in the gym, so they're not something I would have just picked up by going to the gym regularly for a month. I prefer them to regular squats. Also, I've talked about how I'm a big believer in angles in previous posts. Not too long ago, maybe about 3 or 4 years ago, I was looking for different bicep angles  with dumbbells and  decided to start doing  decline bicep curls after seeing a Steve Kuclo video. It's not a new or little known exercise, but it's not something I'd been doing and just seeing it while I was looking for that specific information  inspired me to add it to my workout.

[Erik C]

Just to be clear, I was never in the Navy. It was a joke referencing something that triggered a massive meltdown for Erik C about a year and a half ago.

As for specific things I picked up online that I did not know my first month of training?  A few things that come to mind: the pre-exhaust principle, something I heard mentioned in an Aaron Clark video not more than 2 years ago, but I now institute it in my workouts and it has had a big impact. I learned about front squats online. This was years ago, but I  almost never see guys do these in the gym, so they're not something I would have just picked up by going to the gym regularly for a month. I prefer them to regular squats. Also, I've talked about how I'm a big believer in angles in previous posts. Not too long ago, maybe about 3 or 4 years ago, I was looking for different bicep angles  with dumbbells and  decided to start doing  decline bicep curls after seeing a Steve Kuclo video. It's not a new or little known exercise, but it's not something I'd been doing and just seeing it while I was looking for that specific information  inspired me to add it to my workout.

Decline Biceps Curls? You Mean Decline Triceps Extensions! You Really Are Full Of Shit.

[Al Doggity]

Decline Biceps Curls? You Mean Decline Triceps Extensions! You Really Are Full Of Shit.

[Erik C]

Oh, You Meant Prone Incline Dumbbell Curls?

Really Stupid Of You To Not Know The Difference Between Incline And Decline.

[Erik C]

And Pre-Exhaustion Of Muscles, LOL! That Ranks Right Up There With Muscle Confusion, LOL! You're Clueless!

[NelsonMuntz]

those are really good, doing them here and there among other angles/curls

[Al Doggity]

Oh, You Meant Prone Incline Dumbbell Curls?

Really Stupid Of You To Not Know The Difference Between Incline And Decline.

That's a common name for that exercise. Many exercises have more than one name.The pic is hotlinked from the men's health website and the title of the pic is  "/5-decline-db-curls.jpg".


Man, you are going to be in the psyche ward before the start of September.  

[Coach is Back!]

That's a common name for that exercise. Many exercises have more than one name.The pic is hotlinked from the men's health website and the title of the pic is  "/5-decline-db-curls.jpg".


Man, you are going to be in the psyche ward before the start of September.  

That's not a decline no matter who says it is.

[Al Doggity]

That's not a decline no matter who says it is.

If you face forward, it's an incline. If you face backwards, it's a decline.

If you were standing up and your back was angled in that position, you would be described as bending over, not facing upwards. I don't even see how this is debatable.

Regardless of semantics, if you google image "decline dumbbell curls", the first three images are this exercise. The top ten are half of this exercise and half of incline dumbbell curls, so that is one of its common names. The fact that there is even debate over what it is called reinforces my original point about it not being something you'd learn in the first month of going to a gym.

[Coach is Back!]

If you face forward, it's an incline. If you face backwards, it's a decline.

If you were standing up and your back was angled in that position, you would be described as bending over, not facing upwards. I don't even see how this is debatable.

Regardless of semantics, if you google image "decline dumbbell curls", the first three images are this exercise. The top ten are half of this exercise and half of incline dumbbell curls, so that is one of its common names. The fact that there is even debate over what it is called reinforces my original point about it not being something you'd learn in the first month of going to a gym.

If you face forward it just becomes chest supported. I've been training for over 40 years. This exercise has been around at least that long. I don't need a google image written by some 20 something to tell me otherwise. If I have someone do a chest supported row am I going to tell them to do a "decline chest supported row? No, because all of the blood would rush to their head because their head would be in a DECLINE position.

[Al Doggity]

If you face forward it just becomes chest supported. I've been training for over 40 years. This exercise has been around at least that long. I don't need a google image written by some 20 something to tell me otherwise. If I have someone do a chest supported row am I going to tell them to do a "decline chest supported row? No, because all of the blood would rush to their head because their head would be in a DECLINE position.

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  I feel like this argument exceeds my threshold for triviality.  I literally couldn't give less of a fuck what anybody calls that exercise.

[chokeslam]

Training professional bodybuilders who, by definition are already maxing their genetic potential, supplement use and volume of steroids is laughable.

The best a "Trainer to the pros" can be is a hookup for pharma grade roids and maybe the odd recommendation for a post workout cam session 

Pro Trainers like Meadows who target the gullable with voodoo are slightly different.

You forgot to add babysitting to the list.

Most of these people have the mentality of children at best. Can't think or act for themselves and need constant guidance and reassurance. Maybe drug and schmoe hookups too.

[Erik C]

That's a common name for that exercise. Many exercises have more than one name.The pic is hotlinked from the men's health website and the title of the pic is  "/5-decline-db-curls.jpg".


Man, you are going to be in the psyche ward before the start of September.  

Oooh! "Men's Health!" The Gold Standard Of Lifting Knowledge! How Are Those Worthless Ab Exercises Of The Month Working For You? You Must Have A "Rocky Road" 8 Pack, LOL!

[Erik C]

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  I feel like this argument exceeds my threshold for triviality.  I literally couldn't give less of a fuck what anybody calls that exercise.

That's Because You Have No Standards For Reality. A Knowledgeable Person Would Be Able To Accurately Describe An Exercise That They Are Recommending, Regardless Of How Many Others Incorrectly Describe It.

[rocco-x]

I think it's fairly obvious that people often stay with trainers because they are unable to muster the motivation to train or think too much about training, themselves.

And generally, because they can - because they can afford it.  So whatever.. it's not the worst way for them to spend their money, I guess.

The regulars that I see train with trainers have basically looked the same for like 5 years :-/  Same potbelly they walked in with when they started.

I don't blame the trainer.  He can only take the money and give his advice.

a lot of the women in my area that have PTs have a shitload of money and are JAPs.milk them for all they hand over.most don't even go to the gym they have trainers come to their $4-5 million aptmnts on the upper west side.

[Al Doggity]

That's Because You Have No Standards For Reality.

No, it's because I do have standards for reality and I realized this is a stupid argument.  Feel free to continue. Will fit right in with the rest of your garbage posts.

[Erik C]

No, it's because I do have standards for reality and I realized this is a stupid argument.  Feel free to continue. Will fit right in with the rest of your garbage posts.

No, It's Because You Were Wrong, And Totally Stupid, And You Refuse To Admit That, So You Have No Standards, And No Grasp On Reality.