Why wasn't Samir Bannout ever to replicate his 1983 conditioning?

[Danimal77]

I never understood why Samir was only able to come in dry for 1 year in his lengthy career. He was a pro from 1979 through 1996, yet he was only able to dial in it ONCE in his entire professional career in 1983. I get he didn't know what to do from 1979 through 1982 (he placed 15th in 1980, 9th in 1981 and 4th in 1982), but once he got the formula right in 1983, why then did he fuck with his conditioning again and come in 6th place the following year in 1984 and then 8th in 1988 and 9th in 1989, 8th again in 1990, 16th in 1991 and 1992, and 19th in 1994 and even place as low as 6th at the 1996 Masters? If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? Then why did he keep trying too? The only real competition he had in 1984 would have been Haney (who he beat in 1983). At worst Samir should have come in 2nd in 1984 behind Haney, not 6th! WTF was he thinking? A mark of a true champion is CONSISTENCY and Samir never had it.

[ether]

TOO MUCH LOVE FOR THE PUSSY!!!

Samir was a horn dog ... Would hit on and fuck anything that moved

Many top "pros" had their wives hit on and smashed by him

[Nether Animal]

Lolwut...  Samir came in good shape more times than that, but in all honesty he was sort of on the tail end of that 70s era and once Haney and the rest showed up he was fighting for a top 6. He looked amazing as late as '90-'91.

[Ronnie Rep]

The only Mr. O that consistently showed up in that kind of condition was Dorian. Since Samir was never the biggest guy on stage he needed to be in that kind of condition to win the O. It happened once in 83 and then Haney came along.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Why? because he kept trying to compete at heavier weights. 83 he weighed 188lbs , after that he competed as high as 220 lbs

[Royalty]

TOO MUCH LOVE FOR THE PUSSY!!!

Samir was a horn dog ... Would hit on and fuck anything that moved

Many top "pros" had their wives hit on and smashed by him

What!

[SomeKindofMonster]

He never quite matched his 1983 physique but was spectacular
at the 1985 WABBA World.
He also won a 1990 IFBB pro show he was conditioned for but
his waist had gotten a bit wider and his arms a tad smaller.
There is also a video of a NABBA show around 1990 he looked good.
Here's some pics from 1985 WABBA - much better than his 1984 Olympia shape
beating Jeff King and Lance Dreher.

[SomeKindofMonster]

 Very good shape here but a wider waist and smaller arms.
Looks very detailed none the less.
That 1983 version was near perfection and it seems once guys hit that
pinnacle it is often hard for them to duplicate it.

[Danimal77]

The only Mr. O that consistently showed up in that kind of condition was Dorian. Since Samir was never the biggest guy on stage he needed to be in that kind of condition to win the O. It happened once in 83 and then Haney came along.

Haney was already there onstage in 1983, which was a point I was trying to make. If he beat Haney by 3 places in 1983, why couldn't he have come in 2nd behind an improved (10 pounds heavier) Haney in 1984? Why did he slip to 6th place in one year? He must have known what it took to achieve his level of conditioning in 1983 in order to repeat it only the following year? The lineup had not drastically changed from 1983 to 1984 for Samir to slip 5 whole placings?

[Simple Simon]

Haney was already there onstage in 1983, which was a point I was trying to make. If he beat Haney by 3 places in 1983, why couldn't he have come in 2nd behind an improved (10 pounds heavier) Haney in 1984? Why did he slip to 6th place in one year? He must have known what it took to achieve his level of conditioning in 1983 in order to repeat it only the following year? The lineup had not drastically changed from 1983 to 1984 for Samir to slip 5 whole placings?

He stopped sucking Joes cock.

[Danimal77]

He stopped sucking Joes cock.

In all seriousness, I did hear he had a falling out with Joe. What was the story behind that again?

[ether]

In all seriousness, I did hear he had a falling out with Joe. What was the story behind that again?

Hit on Betty

[Wiggs]

Hit on Betty

Lol. For real?

[NarcissisticDeity]

In all seriousness, I did hear he had a falling out with Joe. What was the story behind that again?

EVERYONE has a falling out with Joe.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Cop mustache couldn't keep him away from the doughnut shop

[Never1AShow]

TOO MUCH LOVE FOR THE PUSSY!!!

Samir was a horn dog ... Would hit on and fuck anything that moved

Many top "pros" had their wives hit on and smashed by him

I know this for a fact as well.  Happened to a buddy of mine.  He had to call Samir up and tell him to grow up.  Samir agreed with him.

[Never1AShow]

The reality is, this is how important being able to manipulate body water is.  It isn't the fat so much as the water.  I have seen 10 hours change someone from an also ran to a winner and vice versa.  I'd have to say that he should count his blessings that he got lucky and it all came together for him at the right moment that one time.

It'd be interesting to see contests held 2 days apart.  I think they did this back in the late 80s at the post Olympia Europe shows and there were some incredible changes in sharpness from day to day and week to week.

If I could have looked like I looked stepping out of the tanning bed when I walked on stage each time, I might have won a show.

[Kwon]

Lol. For real?

Samir was a horn dog ... Would hit on and fuck anything that moved

Many top "pros" had their wives hit on and smashed by him

[Wiggs]

Samir was a horn dog ... Would hit on and fuck anything that moved

Many top "pros" had their wives hit on and smashed by him

I know about him being a lover of women. I'm talking hitting on the bosses wife.

[Kwon]

I know about him being a lover of women. I'm talking hitting on the bosses wife.

TOO MUCH LOVE FOR THE PUSSY!!!

[NelsonMuntz]

Very good shape here but a wider waist and smaller arms.
Looks very detailed none the less.
That 1983 version was near perfection and it seems once guys hit that
pinnacle it is often hard for them to duplicate it.

That is the first time in a long time I have watched someone's posing routine from start to finish without turning it off or being distracted by a fly buzzing around 3 doors down.

Great posing and awesome physique, that is what bodybuilding needs to return to.

BTW I feel that Samir has hands down the best side chest pose ever

[NarcissisticDeity]

That is the first time in a long time I have watched someone's posing routine from start to finish without turning it off or being distracted by a fly buzzing around 3 doors down.

Great posing and awesome physique, that is what bodybuilding needs to return to.

BTW I feel that Samir has hands down the best side chest pose ever

[njflex]

HE HAD A GREAT CHEST.......

[Old School Trainer]

I can't remember if it was a video interview or one of the Bill Phillips audio cassette tapes for purchase when he first started his Muscle Magazine around 1992.  Frank Zane was the monthly featured start to be interviewed if it was the Bill Phillips tape.  He mentioned that Samir went all out for his 1983 win and took his prep to a very dangerous place.  Zane said Samir didn't even feel well during the contest and wasn't sure if he was going to be able to go on stage or something along those lines?  My guess is that Samir probably caught lightening in a bottle with the the perfect drugs and pushed himself beyond any limit that he was willing to take again?  Even it one duplicates everything there is no guarantee to achieve a level like that.

Zane was a pretty smart dude and a good interview.  I still have the Dan D. interview from his jail cell and that was the best one of the series.

[Wiggs]

TOO MUCH LOVE FOR THE PUSSY!!!

Pussy is great. I love it. Too much love for pussy is not good.