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Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« on: September 09, 2009, 06:32:30 PM »
This was out of line. 

Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
The outburst caused Obama to pause briefly before he went on with his speech

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Wednesday, September 09, 2009

President Obama's address Wednesday to Congress was greeted warmly by applause from Democrats, but also some disruptions, including one moment in which a congressman accused Obama of lying.

South Carolina Republican Rep. Joe Wilson shouted "You lie!" after Obama had talked about illegal immigrants.

Wilson's outburst caused Obama to pause briefly before he went on with his speech. Overhead in the visitors' gallery, first Lady Michelle Obama shook her head from side to side.

Obama's speech also drew some cheers from Republicans, primarily when he spoke of tort reform.

President Clinton also faced critical Republicans when he addressed Congress on health care reform in 1993. For example, they laughed at a remark about using Congress' deficit projections.

"Well, you can laugh, my fellow Republicans, but I will point out that the Congressional Budget Office is normally more conservative," Clinton said.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi wasn't immediately aware who yelled "you lie," but she told FOX News that she would not move to sanction anyone for it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/congressman-yells-lie-obama-speech/

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2009, 07:22:27 PM »
These people have a habit of being out of line in S.Carolina...last time they were really out of line we had a Civil War. Its good for Barry to hear that not everybody is buying into his bullshit.
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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2009, 07:44:05 PM »
These people have a habit of being out of line in S.Carolina...last time they were really out of line we had a Civil War. Its good for Barry to hear that not everybody is buying into his bullshit.

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Obama is going to start a civil war if he tries to impose criminal penalties for people who don't have coverage.  I wonder if illegals will be required to get coverage?   ::)

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2009, 07:47:19 PM »
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Obama is going to start a civil war if he tries to impose criminal penalties for people who don't have coverage.  I wonder if illegals will be required to get coverage?   ::)
hahah good question, unfortunately they will be paid for by us no doubt.  ???

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2009, 07:50:14 PM »
These people have a habit of being out of line in S.Carolina...last time they were really out of line we had a Civil War. Its good for Barry to hear that not everybody is buying into his bullshit.

For one in the military, historically you would know that the ones who thought civil war was the way to go, lost....

It did start in the south, which is where that Congressman is from
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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2009, 09:03:05 PM »

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2009, 09:07:37 PM »
hahah good question, unfortunately they will be paid for by us no doubt.  ???

how exactly will you pay for it

you don't have health insurance

it you have a catastrophic health even it's the rest of us who will be paying for YOU

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2009, 09:09:40 PM »
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Obama is going to start a civil war if he tries to impose criminal penalties for people who don't have coverage.  I wonder if illegals will be required to get coverage?   ::)
this is odd you'd post this, when I was watching it, I thought, man, there's something civil warish brewing here.  But I didn't post that because I figured it was over the top and just me.

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2009, 09:10:41 PM »
how exactly will you pay for it

you don't have health insurance

it you have a catastrophic health even it's the rest of us who will be paying for YOU
no under obamas plan ill have to pay a fine until ppl get fed up with that and beg for a single payer system completing his goal  ::)

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2009, 09:11:08 PM »


Incredible how the "change" president has polarized DC as bad or worse than Bush.    

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2009, 09:11:57 PM »
this is odd you'd post this, when I was watching it, I thought, man, there's something civil warish brewing here.  But I didn't post that because I figured it was over the top and just me.

If you look at the very partisan response, it sure looks like a political war is brewing. 

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2009, 09:13:33 PM »
If you look at the very partisan response, it sure looks like a political war is brewing. 
yea, that's the feeling I was getting too.  of course it was silly to consider under Bush, but totally serious under Obama lol

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2009, 09:18:07 PM »
yea, that's the feeling I was getting too.  of course it was silly to consider under Bush, but totally serious under Obama lol

Bush was polarizing near the end of his presidency.  This guy is in serious political trouble IMO.  He hasn't even tackled the controversial social issues and he's already burned through his political capital.  I smell trouble. 

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2009, 09:27:31 PM »
Bush was polarizing near the end of his presidency.  This guy is in serious political trouble IMO.  He hasn't even tackled the controversial social issues and he's already burned through his political capital.  I smell trouble. 
I think bush was pretty polarizing from the start.  He got a break after 9/11 but it didn't take long for that to wear off.  It was well into his second term before the right started bailing from him in a measurable amount.  But anyway, he had the left furious pretty much the whole time.  Which people just laugh at.  But my guess is, it's more "serious" when it's the right pissed off.  anyway, I see why you posted it, I could see it too.

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2009, 06:05:43 AM »


I would have yelled something far worse with all the lies Dear Leader told in that embarassing speech.   

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2009, 06:32:19 AM »
I thought that was one of the funniest things Ive seen in a press conferance.

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2009, 06:01:27 PM »
Protesting too much. 

House plans to admonish Rep. Wilson over outburst  
By Ben Evans And Seanna Adcox, Associated Press Writers

WASHINGTON — Democratic leaders are planning a House vote early next week to admonish Republican Rep. Joe Wilson if he does not apologize on the House floor for yelling "You lie!" during President Barack Obama's health care address to Congress.
National attention from the heckling episode has money pouring into Wilson's campaign treasury and that of his 2010 Democratic challenger. Wilson had raised more than $700,000 since the incident as of Friday, according to the National Republican Congressional Committee. His opponent, Rob Miller, had received more than $1 million from 25,000 donors nationwide, said his campaign manager, Lindsay Zoeller.

Democratic leaders initially showed mixed interest in punishing Wilson. But they decided at a meeting late Thursday that they probably will propose a resolution of disapproval early next week if he doesn't apologize to Congress, said Brendan Daly, a spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

While not a formal censure or reprimand, the resolution, if passed as expected, would put Congress on record as condemning Wilson's conduct.

Wilson, who was criticized by Republicans and Democrats for his outburst, told Obama he was sorry shortly after the incident Wednesday night. But he has refused requests from both parties to apologize on the House floor. Wilson's office says the congressman considers his initial apology sufficient.

Obama said Thursday he accepted Wilson's apology, telling reporters that "we all make mistakes." The White House said it considered the matter over, and Pelosi, D-Calif., initially said she wanted move on.

But many Democrats remain angry and have pressed for further action. They say Wilson clearly violated House rules.

"This is about how elected officials should be conducting themselves in the well of the U.S. House of Representatives," Rep. James Clyburn of South Carolina, the third-ranking House Democrat, said in an interview Friday.

The White House had no comment on the plan for a House resolution.

Wilson also has taken a more combative tone since his apology.

In a video posted on his campaign Web site, he said he let his emotions get away from him during Obama's speech but added, "I will not be muzzled. I will speak up and speak loudly."

Wilson said his critics want to use the incident to silence opponents of health care reform.

"I need your help now," he said, soliciting donations.

In 2008, Wilson took 54 percent of the vote in beating Miller, a former Marine.

For their rematch next year, Miller already has raised more money in the past two days than the roughly $625,000 he spent for that race.

Wilson spent nearly $1.3 million for the 2008 cycle. The health care industry -- among South Carolina's largest economic sectors -- has traditionally been his top contributor.

His top 20 career donors include the American Hospital Association, the Lexington Medical Center and the American Dental Association, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Wilson shouted "You lie!" after Obama said in his address to Congress that illegal immigrants would not be eligible for low-cost health care.

The Democratic proposals explicitly prohibit spending any federal money to help illegal immigrants get health care. Still, Republicans say there aren't sufficient citizenship verification requirements to ensure illegal immigrants are excluded.

Wilson, a former state senator elected to Congress in 2001, is known as a mild-mannered lawmaker with hard-line conservative views. But he has been confrontational in the past.

In 2003, Wilson called it "unseemly" and a "smear" for the mixed-race daughter of Sen. Strom Thurmond, Essie Mae Washington-Williams, to identify the longtime South Carolina senator as her father after his death. After a public outcry, he said he had the utmost respect for Washington-Williams.

Wilson returned to South Carolina on Friday morning and doesn't plan to make any public appearances Friday or Saturday, his spokesman said.

About 40 people gathered Friday evening outside Wilson's West Columbia office for a rally promoted on blogs. Wilson did not attend. But those gathered said they wanted to show support amid what they called attacks on Wilson's character, and praised him as a hero.

Attendees wore shirts that read "Palin 2012" and "Dare to say NO to Obama and Socialism!"

"Joe's my hero. He said what we all wanted to say to Barack Obama," said William Browning, 55.

"Maybe Joe shouldn't have said it in that venue, but he's apologized," Browning said. "I hope he sticks to his guns. If they reprimand him, so be it."

http://content.usatoday.net/dist/custom/gci/InsidePage.aspx?cId=honoluluadvertiser&sParam=31570503.story

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2016, 10:58:08 AM »
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California petitions to become first state to offer ObamaCare to illegal immigrants
Published October 04, 2016 
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California’s health care exchange is requesting that it be allowed a waiver from ObamaCare regulations in order to allow illegal immigrants to buy insurance on the exchange – which would make California the first state to extend ObamaCare to illegal immigrants.

In a Sept. 30 letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell, Covered California’s Executive Director Peter Lee said that the Affordable Care Act has been “tremendously successful” in the state and has cut the rate of uninsured in half.

“While millions of Californians have benefitted from coverage purchased through the Covered California marketplace, certain individuals are prohibited from buying insurance through our state marketplace due to their immigration status,” Lee wrote, before requesting the waiver.

The Affordable Care Act technically bars illegal immigrants from insurance exchanges, but in June Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill that allowed the state to apply for a federal waiver to open Covered California to illegal immigrants living in California. The bill’s sponsor said such a waiver would allow 390,000 illegal immigrants to receive health insurance.

However, even if the Obama administration green-lights the waiver, the insurance plans that would be offered – California Qualified Health Plans – would not be subsidized.

The Department for Health and Human Services did not respond to a request for comment from FoxNews.com.

Critics have objected to the plan, saying it is the latest sign the federal government misrepresented the purpose of the law.

“This is the first step in another misrepresentation of the Affordable Care Act,” Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform told US News & World Report in June. “It was sold to the American people on the fact that you wouldn’t have to subsidize health care for illegal immigrants.”

The issue of whether ObamaCare would be available to illegal immigrants was highly contentious in the debate building up to the law’s passage in 2010. In an address to a joint session of Congress in 2009, the president said ObamaCare would not apply to illegal immigrants, to which Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C. shouted “You lie!” Obama immediately responded, “That’s not true. That's not true"

Wilson was heavily criticized for his outburst and later apologized.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/04/california-petitions-to-become-first-state-to-offer-obamacare-to-illegal-immigrants.html

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2016, 12:15:16 PM »
Following the incident, both Wilson and Rob Miller, his subsequent 2010 general election opponent, experienced a significant upswing in campaign donations. In the week after Wilson's outburst, Miller raised $1.6 million, about three times his 2008 campaign, while Wilson raised $1.8 million. By September 30, 2009, Wilson had out-paced Miller's fundraising by $2.65 million to $1.69 million respectively. This fundraising surge led to Wilson writing fundraising letters for the Republican Party of Virginia and the National Republican Congressional Committee. Political observers described him as a "GOP fundraising star."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Wilson_(U.S._politician)#Outburst_during_2009_Presidential_address

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Re: Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2016, 12:18:50 PM »
in other words - those us us at the time were dead right and all the liberal tampons were wrong - go figure.


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