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Erik C

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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2016, 09:36:17 AM »
rear delt machine at my gym sucks, the resistance is/seems higher on the left side than the right.

Stop going to Planet Fitness. GO TO A REAL GYM.

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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2016, 09:47:22 AM »
It's the laterals that create the width, not presses.  Years of heavy overhead pressing eventually ruins your shoulders.  

It's the genetics that create the width.
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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2016, 09:48:59 AM »
It's the genetics that create the width.

ITs all about skeletal structure. Sure, you can build wider side delts, but it will still be minimal......example, Phil "The Narrow" Cheath.
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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2016, 09:50:04 AM »
It's the genetics that create the width.

That's just your excuse.

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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2016, 12:57:02 PM »
I would imagine so as there's no difference between a natural and a druggie except the drugs.

Oh, I thought "capped delts" was a drugs-only sorta look. I'm trying to bring my front delts up cuz my rear delts overpower my front so much it is causing some posture imbalances.

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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2016, 12:57:46 PM »
That's just your excuse.

Correct - that's my excuse for not having to waste time with worthless isolation movements.
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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2016, 01:11:24 PM »
isolation movements rules

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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2016, 02:52:43 PM »
Well then, in this case we're not disagreeing!

Correct, I read your first post too fast.

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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2016, 03:28:55 PM »
I consider pulling a barbell from the ground, and pressing it over head to be a fundamental lift... along with bent rows and squats. everything else if fluff.

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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2016, 03:38:19 PM »
I consider pulling a barbell from the ground, and pressing it over head to be a fundamental lift... along with bent rows and squats. everything else if fluff.

Agree, except for biceps. There you want a routine of 5-6 different exercises of 5-6 sets each. ;)

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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2016, 03:53:26 PM »
Agree, except for biceps. There you want a routine of 5-6 different exercises of 5-6 sets each. ;)

Right after some big compound lifts. You need the big lifts to release GH, then the isolations to work all four sides of the biceps, as Vince Gironda would say.

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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2016, 08:00:35 PM »
While I don't ever recommend doing any exercise to failure, in this case it makes some sense. It's not often, on this alleged bodybuilding website, that someone posts something really useful. Thank You!

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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2016, 08:18:04 PM »
From a standpoint of leverage, side laterals might be the worst exercise, as evidenced by relatively little amount of weight you can use. Most of the time people go too heavy, putting a lot of stress on the shoulder joint, and end up injured.

I don't see them as a worthwhile exercise, as is the case with most isolation movements.

I do agree that shoulders respond better to higher reps. Basketball players tend to have good delts even though many don't lift. Why? Because they spend a lot of time with their arms raised and their delts flexed.
Just so you know all basketball players from high school up are on a weightlifting program.

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Re: I gave up completely on shoulder pressing movements!
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2016, 01:51:33 AM »
i dont think the 'insert athlete here'-argument is a very good one