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The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« on: February 01, 2017, 11:56:27 AM »
What has been in your personal experience the best stack you've run to gain lean muscle tissue while still dropping fat and at what dosages? Did you run maintenance calories or a deficit?

Of course Tren is the first thing that comes to mind when thinking recomp, but curious what others have achieved with or without it and to what degree? I'm thinking about trying Test/Primo/EQ with Epistane for a recomp stack to see if it can match or surpass my last Test/Tren/Mast recomp without all that crazy irritability  ;)

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2017, 03:18:57 PM »
Test, tren, mast with intermittent fasting. I keep the carbs low and just eat intuitively. Eat carbs after you workout and you'll pretty much be close to keto (or in full keto if you're fasting long enough) and you'll have ample hours in the day in which you're in a fasted state and burning fat.

If you feel that you're needing a kick with your workouts and not getting pumped enough, seriously just up the fat. Everyone gravitates towards carbs and thinks they're shrinking, but a spoonful of MCT oil will go a long way. Everyone knocks it before they try it and I think a lot of people do NOT speak from experience. I speak from experience and I'm ripped all the time.

Don't fear wasting away either. You're on fucking steroids. Everyone thinks they're shrinking, but I swear that more often than not they just have less muscle and more fat than they think... again, you're on steroids. You will not shrink. You can't shrink. You don't have AIDs or a wasting disease, so as long as you have adequate rest then you should be fine. Protein requirements are also a lot lower on steroids because your nitrogen retention and protein turnover is way higher, so this should again squash the confounded fears of shrinking while cutting.

Commit to the cut and you'll lose a lot of body fat. You don't necessarily have to cut the calories as much as people think. I barely go below maintenance and with the intermittent fasting, my body has an ample opportunity to burn fat. If you're eating around the clock then you'll be in a fed state, with insulin circulating systemically and subsequently halting lipolysis. I think people don't realize you need to STOP eating in order to burn fat efficiently, otherwise you're running on the spot. A little bit of fasting goes a long way and you won't starve either, your insulin metabolism will become far better calibrated and conducive towards all your bodybuilding goals. Even if you skip breakfast and workout before eating, it'll go a long way.

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2017, 12:36:23 AM »
Recomping is really more about cycling/timing calories and carbs appropriatly than taking X or Y drug but yeah tren would be your best bet imo.
Actually the more drugs the better.

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 04:12:09 AM »
Test, Winstrol and low carb diet. Epistane is poison, if you to damage your body, use ir.

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 08:43:24 AM »
What has been in your personal experience the best stack you've run to gain lean muscle tissue while still dropping fat and at what dosages? Did you run maintenance calories or a deficit?

Of course Tren is the first thing that comes to mind when thinking recomp, but curious what others have achieved with or without it and to what degree? I'm thinking about trying Test/Primo/EQ with Epistane for a recomp stack to see if it can match or surpass my last Test/Tren/Mast recomp without all that crazy irritability  ;)

You can recomp greatly on every stack.... it depends on you but: Test Primo Mast and Test Tren Mast worked best on me.
You can for example run Test TrenA Mast Primo and do 4w in 4w out with TrenA. This way your body will heal from Tren.

I would avoid EQ if it gives you hunger but EQ does that only if you use too much of it (like 1g+).

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 06:37:50 PM »
Test, tren, eq with winnie thrown in two weeks at a time. Winnie by itself can do wonders actually. Proviron is pretty awesome in drying you out also. Throw anti e in as needed.

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2017, 07:36:29 PM »
Test, tren, eq with winnie thrown in two weeks at a time. Winnie by itself can do wonders actually. Proviron is pretty awesome in drying you out also. Throw anti e in as needed.

I wrote winny off for years because everyone online said it was shit. But when I ran it I loved it.

I usually use it for a few weeks on and off for a little kick. You don't need much and it compliments a modest cycle nicely. I think people say they don't feel much because they're the ones who are running juice in the multiple grams range and are on another level of abuse.

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2017, 12:52:02 AM »
I wrote winny off for years because everyone online said it was shit. But when I ran it I loved it.

I usually use it for a few weeks on and off for a little kick. You don't need much and it compliments a modest cycle nicely. I think people say they don't feel much because they're the ones who are running juice in the multiple grams range and are on another level of abuse.

Its inj winny that gets bad wrap as it has caused more abscesses than any other compound..

Stromba, or oral winny is a great addition.

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2017, 09:34:56 PM »
Its inj winny that gets bad wrap as it has caused more abscesses than any other compound..

Stromba, or oral winny is a great addition.

Absolutely. I wouldn't inject something that's available EXACTLY as-is in a powder/pressed tablet for sure. Not unless there were some miraculous benefits to injecting it.

That said, I'm still amazed that so many people write it off. Everyone goes for the var which is lighter but lightens your wallet just as quickly, or the heavy hitter compounds that have you hunched over inspecting your toilet to see if your urine is dark enough to constitute visiting the doctor's office. Little bouts of winny make all the difference, especially if you're cutting right down.

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2017, 08:39:46 AM »
I'm not a fan of winny. Even ran it at 250mg/day oral. Hurts my elbows and wrists mostly.

To the op...test and tren100%... Legit gh if u can afford 6hi min/day.

500 test and 200mg tren 3x/wk should give you results you're looking for.

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2017, 01:17:31 AM »
I'm not a fan of winny. Even ran it at 250mg/day oral. Hurts my elbows and wrists mostly.

To the op...test and tren100%... Legit gh if u can afford 6hi min/day.

500 test and 200mg tren 3x/wk should give you results you're looking for.

I'm sorry, but that is just excessive for a good solid recomp.  If you eat and train properly and have legit
test and tren, 500 test and 200 tren is all you need per week.  More isn't always better.

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2017, 12:56:42 AM »
I'm sorry, but that is just excessive for a good solid recomp.  If you eat and train properly and have legit
test and tren, 500 test and 200 tren is all you need per week.  More isn't always better.


But he's huge, he knows what he's talking about.. ::), white widow mark 2

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2017, 10:41:31 PM »
I'm sorry, but that is just excessive for a good solid recomp.  If you eat and train properly and have legit
test and tren, 500 test and 200 tren is all you need per week.  More isn't always better.

Its not excessive if he can tolerate and afford it. 1500 test and 600 tren aint that much.

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2017, 06:38:50 PM »
I'm not a fan of winny. Even ran it at 250mg/day oral. Hurts my elbows and wrists mostly.

To the op...test and tren100%... Legit gh if u can afford 6hi min/day.

500 test and 200mg tren 3x/wk should give you results you're looking for.

250mg a day of winny? Forget about your elbows and wrists hurting, your liver will be in the most pain. 50mg a day for about two weeks is all my joints can stand before I start to ache pretty bad, but before the joint pain kicks in I see an aggressive kick and almost instant visual results by day two or three with a leaner, tighter look.

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2017, 08:06:55 PM »
Its not excessive if he can tolerate and afford it. 1500 test and 600 tren aint that much.

We can agree to disagree.  I like my dosing for a recomp and your dosing if prepping for the Nationals.

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Re: The Perfect Body Recomposition Stack
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2017, 10:16:03 PM »
250mg a day of winny? Forget about your elbows and wrists hurting, your liver will be in the most pain. 50mg a day for about two weeks is all my joints can stand before I start to ache pretty bad, but before the joint pain kicks in I see an aggressive kick and almost instant visual results by day two or three with a leaner, tighter look.

Actually my liver was good back then, & i was running 200-250 of both drol & winny at the same time.

Tren will give me the instand visual results.