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Re: Will Trump Legalize Steroids?
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2017, 04:17:05 AM »
Bush was/is a baseball guy (tx rangers) & I believe that fat pitcher from then Orioles that swallowed a handful of Ripped Fuel in high heat, super high humidity, while wearing a rubber "sweat suit" and had a stroke or whatever and died is what got the ball rolling... since bush is a pencil-necked baseball purist (I played baseball for nearly 14 years... Not dissing baseball players)... Plus, I think he just wanted to one-up his dad, since his dad (the first President Bush) signed or enacted or whatever the first anabolic steroid Act of 1991

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Re: Will Trump Legalize Steroids?
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2017, 06:26:14 AM »


The baseball scandal with McGwire & Sosa took place around 1998, 8 years after steroids became controlled substances.  I suspect it was the 1988 Olympics, where the Canadian Ben Johnson beat the American Carl Lewis--only to be stripped of his medal days later--that really set things in motion in the US.

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Re: Will Trump Legalize Steroids?
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2017, 09:14:39 AM »

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Re: Will Trump Legalize Steroids?
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2017, 01:28:17 AM »
The baseball scandal with McGwire & Sosa took place around 1998, 8 years after steroids became controlled substances.  I suspect it was the 1988 Olympics, where the Canadian Ben Johnson beat the American Carl Lewis--only to be stripped of his medal days later--that really set things in motion in the US.


Correct. I was thinking of the Anabolic Control Act passed in 2004. The 1990 act was part of an omnibus crime bill. This first bill didn't seem to make much noise and certainly had zero effect on steroid use in sports and society which had grown exponentially. The beefed up 2004 version expanded the list and also included prohormone, including androsteindiol, made famous by the Mark Mcguire/Sammy Sousa rivalry. Although it applied to all, the primary target was steroid use in sports. It was considered cheating and a risk to health.

What made this a circus, having McGuire and Sousa face congressional hearing, was this issue was not the purview of the government. Sporting organizations make their own rules and often it can be arbitrary with little or no regard to the rights afforded by the Constitution. They can tell you what to wear, how you are suppose to behave, what you can eat and what you can take. If they wanted to make a strike out 2 strikes or 4 strikes or make the ingestion of caffeine or bananas a violation they can. If you violate these rules it up to the organization how they enforce it, not the government.  You decide if you want to follow those rules or start driving a truck or working in the produce department at Safeway to make a living.

What a circus and grandstanding it was calling baseball players to testify before congress regarding the use of PEDS. But, hey, it's not their tax dollars. You can play balonie when someone else is paying for it.

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Re: Will Trump Legalize Steroids?
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2017, 01:29:40 AM »
You always were one stubborn mofo.

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Re: Will Trump Legalize Steroids?
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2017, 05:37:53 AM »
Correct. I was thinking of the Anabolic Control Act passed in 2004. The 1990 act was part of an omnibus crime bill. This first bill didn't seem to make much noise and certainly had zero effect on steroid use in sports and society which had grown exponentially. The beefed up 2004 version expanded the list and also included prohormone, including androsteindiol, made famous by the Mark Mcguire/Sammy Sousa rivalry. Although it applied to all, the primary target was steroid use in sports. It was considered cheating and a risk to health.

What made this a circus, having McGuire and Sousa face congressional hearing, was this issue was not the purview of the government. Sporting organizations make their own rules and often it can be arbitrary with little or no regard to the rights afforded by the Constitution. They can tell you what to wear, how you are suppose to behave, what you can eat and what you can take. If they wanted to make a strike out 2 strikes or 4 strikes or make the ingestion of caffeine or bananas a violation they can. If you violate these rules it up to the organization how they enforce it, not the government.  You decide if you want to follow those rules or start driving a truck or working in the produce department at Safeway to make a living.

What a circus and grandstanding it was calling baseball players to testify before congress regarding the use of PEDS. But, hey, it's not their tax dollars. You can play balonie when someone else is paying for it.

And yet, US athletes competing domestically, and most international athletes and many at even lower regional levels are still using PED's.

Possibly even more so than before.

May as well just legalise it, if kids are going to want to use steroids to get bigger or stronger for football or whichever sport, they will anyway. It's probably even easier at that age to get hold of drugs.