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Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« on: February 24, 2017, 06:25:26 AM »
This for Disgusted and any other resident gurus:

I think a thread like this is good as a lot of females mess themselves up when they get caught up in this cycle of drug use.

From looking at the long term aas users amongst females there seems to be ceiling where once they pass it, they frequently lose their femininity and become she beasts.

See Nicole Bass. In her earlier pics she was somewhat pretty with a good bodybuilding physique. However later on she got bigger and the bone structure of her face transformed. Also denise rutkowski in her later bb era pics had clearly more masculine facial features.

Is this because of:

(a) there is a sweet spot for females in terms of dosages. Once they increase it then it's bye bye to their femininity.
-What do you think is a good dosage for females determined to use AAS?
(b) too long on cycle
-What's your experience with cycle length for females?
(c) the wrong compounds
-What do you think are the one's female should use?
(d) all of the above
-Lauren Powers style (I'm off gear. I'm only on 100mg a day of var  8))

There are some anomalies with great genetics for withstanding the virilisation though. Denise Masino, Vickie Gates, Lenda Murray etc. are examples.

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2017, 09:44:53 AM »
OK so I've trained all walks of female BB up to the pro level. At the pro level unless I would see something total wrong or outrageous I would normally won't touch anything. These girls have been on for years and generally know how they affect them and are past the point that they are worried about their femininity.

Now, I have had a lot of girls who were totally natty that have come to me and I have never ever suggested steroid use to them. It's a different story with women. I would never suggest that a man take female hormones to the degree that it would change their sex either. I see a lot of "gurus" who are putting bikini competitors on drugs and I can't fucking believe it!!!! Why in the hell would you put a bikini competitor on Anavar DNP and T3????  

I don't feel that there really is a sweet spot so to speak. All you can do is try to minimize the side effects relative to the degree of muscle mass you are trying to achieve!! READ THAT AGAIN!!!

I hate to name actual compounds but here's my opinion only.

Anavar is one of the worst drugs for a woman to use. Within 10 days their voice will change. I  seen better results with Winstrol at around 5 to 10 mgs on first timers with no voice change and little to none masculinization  effects.

I know a woman who was prescribed a low dose test patch and she got some good results no voice change but I certainly would not like to see a woman injecting test.

This one may shock some of you but Anadrol at very low dose (10 to 15 mgs) will have a good effect on building muscle with little to no side effects.

Very short term oral and injects with experienced users is what I think should be used. That way if sides show up can pull it and take some Aldactone and you should be fine.

As far as length well I think that doing short bursts with some time off is best. Build some muscle back off then hit it again. Hope I covered all of your questions.

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2017, 09:57:07 AM »
This for Disgusted and any other resident gurus:

I think a thread like this is good as a lot of females mess themselves up when they get caught up in this cycle of drug use.

From looking at the long term aas users amongst females there seems to be ceiling where once they pass it, they frequently lose their femininity and become she beasts.

See Nicole Bass. In her earlier pics she was somewhat pretty with a good bodybuilding physique. However later on she got bigger and the bone structure of her face transformed. Also denise rutkowski in her later bb era pics had clearly more masculine facial features.

Is this because of:

(a) there is a sweet spot for females in terms of dosages. Once they increase it then it's bye bye to their femininity.
-What do you think is a good dosage for females determined to use AAS?
(b) too long on cycle
-What's your experience with cycle length for females?
(c) the wrong compounds
-What do you think are the one's female should use?
(d) all of the above
-Lauren Powers style (I'm off gear. I'm only on 100mg a day of var  8))

There are some anomalies with great genetics for withstanding the virilisation though. Denise Masino, Vickie Gates, Lenda Murray etc. are examples.

Speaking of girls getting messed up, there is one at my gym.  He and her boyfriend are so cheap they only give her testosterone cyp in a low dosage.  Man besides the acne her face is getting worse and worse by the week.  Not to mention her voice.  Everyone always talks about acne, hair, voice, clit etc but IMO the facial skin and feature changes is the worst.  I try to tell them that no woman should be touching testosterone cyp but they don't listen. 

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2017, 10:17:11 AM »
Speaking of girls getting messed up, there is one at my gym.  He and her boyfriend are so cheap they only give her testosterone cyp in a low dosage.  Man besides the acne her face is getting worse and worse by the week.  Not to mention her voice.  Everyone always talks about acne, hair, voice, clit etc but IMO the facial skin and feature changes is the worst.  I try to tell them that no woman should be touching testosterone cyp but they don't listen. 

And thats only the physical changes you can see.  Im curious when they think they've gone to far with the genital changes....

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2017, 10:31:38 AM »
And thats only the physical changes you can see.  Im curious when they think they've gone to far with the genital changes....

No such thing....  ;)
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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2017, 11:41:28 AM »
Look above.  :)

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2017, 12:12:46 PM »
What do you think is a good dosage for females determined to use AAS?

People tend to overthink this, she beasts only happen when the doses are really high. Keep her test under 300 mg/week and she'll be fine. Stay away from Tren. Dbol 10 mg / day max.

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2017, 01:26:54 PM »
People tend to overthink this, she beasts only happen when the doses are really high. Keep her test under 300 mg/week and she'll be fine. Stay away from Tren. Dbol 10 mg / day max.

Lol. My wife isn't ever going on. She's violent enough as it is  ;D

I was just thinking after seeing the nicole bass thread and even dorian's brazilian wife's before and after pics, how that acromegaly/masculine like facial and body structure kind of effect happens. It's a bodybuilding mystery like palumboism.

Nice post above by disgusted as always.

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2017, 01:40:02 PM »
Lol. My wife isn't ever going on. She's violent enough as it is  ;D

I was just thinking after seeing the nicole bass thread and even dorian's brazilian wife's before and after pics, how that acromegaly/masculine like facial and body structure kind of effect happens. It's a bodybuilding mystery like palumboism.

Nice post above by disgusted as always.

Nicole had a lot of fillers put in her face and lips. Nothing to do with acromegaly.

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2017, 01:49:39 PM »
OK so I've trained all walks of female BB up to the pro level. At the pro level unless I would see something total wrong or outrageous I would normally won't touch anything. These girls have been on for years and generally know how they affect them and are past the point that they are worried about their femininity.

Now, I have had a lot of girls who were totally natty that have come to me and I have never ever suggested steroid use to them. It's a different story with women. I would never suggest that a man take female hormones to the degree that it would change their sex either. I see a lot of "gurus" who are putting bikini competitors on drugs and I can't fucking believe it!!!! Why in the hell would you put a bikini competitor on Anavar DNP and T3????  

I don't feel that there really is a sweet spot so to speak. All you can do is try to minimize the side effects relative to the degree of muscle mass you are trying to achieve!! READ THAT AGAIN!!!

I hate to name actual compounds but here's my opinion only.

Anavar is one of the worst drugs for a woman to use. Within 10 days their voice will change. I  seen better results with Winstrol at around 5 to 10 mgs on first timers with no voice change and little to none masculinization  effects.

I know a woman who was prescribed a low dose test patch and she got some good results no voice change but I certainly would not like to see a woman injecting test.

This one may shock some of you but Anadrol at very low dose (10 to 15 mgs) will have a good effect on building muscle with little to no side effects.

Very short term oral and injects with experienced users is what I think should be used. That way if sides show up can pull it and take some Aldactone and you should be fine.

As far as length well I think that doing short bursts with some time off is best. Build some muscle back off then hit it again. Hope I covered all of your questions.
Great information, and very educational, so thank you.

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2017, 01:56:30 PM »
It's basically Female-to-Male hormone replacement therapy.

Except still mentally identifying as still being female even though their body is become more masculine with male traits.

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2017, 03:34:43 PM »
OK so I've trained all walks of female BB up to the pro level. At the pro level unless I would see something total wrong or outrageous I would normally won't touch anything. These girls have been on for years and generally know how they affect them and are past the point that they are worried about their femininity.

Now, I have had a lot of girls who were totally natty that have come to me and I have never ever suggested steroid use to them. It's a different story with women. I would never suggest that a man take female hormones to the degree that it would change their sex either. I see a lot of "gurus" who are putting bikini competitors on drugs and I can't fucking believe it!!!! Why in the hell would you put a bikini competitor on Anavar DNP and T3????  

I don't feel that there really is a sweet spot so to speak. All you can do is try to minimize the side effects relative to the degree of muscle mass you are trying to achieve!! READ THAT AGAIN!!!

I hate to name actual compounds but here's my opinion only.

Anavar is one of the worst drugs for a woman to use. Within 10 days their voice will change. I  seen better results with Winstrol at around 5 to 10 mgs on first timers with no voice change and little to none masculinization  effects.

I know a woman who was prescribed a low dose test patch and she got some good results no voice change but I certainly would not like to see a woman injecting test.

This one may shock some of you but Anadrol at very low dose (10 to 15 mgs) will have a good effect on building muscle with little to no side effects.

Very short term oral and injects with experienced users is what I think should be used. That way if sides show up can pull it and take some Aldactone and you should be fine.

As far as length well I think that doing short bursts with some time off is best. Build some muscle back off then hit it again. Hope I covered all of your questions.

bible index level of post. I reckon if someone went through all your magnum posts on PM and the ones from here the "bible" document would be better than gh15's.

It's a shame bums like blaha make an income off of regurgitating bullshit on youtube when guys like you have been providing gems on forums for years for free.

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2017, 06:54:04 PM »
bible index level of post. I reckon if someone went through all your magnum posts on PM and the ones from here the "bible" document would be better than gh15's.

It's a shame bums like blaha make an income off of regurgitating bullshit on youtube when guys like you have been providing gems on forums for years for free.

Thanks

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2017, 07:33:20 PM »

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2017, 01:10:28 AM »
Disgusted has always been somone worth listening to, one of the few that would make me think twice about what I'm doing....

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Re: Question for Disgusted: Female AAS Dosages
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2017, 01:20:47 AM »
anadrol actually works pretty well with women