Author Topic: Side effects aside...what is the best. (Read 3252 times)

Bypass · « **on:** April 03, 2006, 01:56:02 PM »

In everyone's opinion what is the best "jump start" oral, dbol? Anadrol? halo? I know they are all hard, but what is going to give you the best jump start?

ZEEK · « **Reply #1 on:** April 03, 2006, 04:07:08 PM »

you got to have test in there somewere.
but they are all good.
and youll lose it as soon as your done

Bypass · « **Reply #2 on:** April 03, 2006, 04:12:39 PM »

Yeah, know about the test in the stack, I just hear a lot of people talk about these 3 to run the first 4 - 6 wks to get everything going, was just curious as to which one is the best, and I know it's hard to say best, but what are the pro's I guess, if your just looking to get the fastest strongest reaction, I've heard Anadrol and Halo, make some a bit more aggressive than some of the other things, but along with that, will you also get faster strenght and size gains than say d-bol?

ZEEK · « **Reply #3 on:** April 03, 2006, 05:57:41 PM »

d-bol is good and it works
anadrol is rough but it works too.
i would stay with the d-bol.

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #4 on:** April 03, 2006, 07:08:21 PM »

Ive had no side effects on test-e and deca.... except oily face and arse

wes mantooth · « **Reply #5 on:** April 03, 2006, 10:03:36 PM »

Quote from: Bypass on April 03, 2006, 01:56:02 PM

In everyone's opinion what is the best "jump start" oral, dbol? Anadrol? halo? I know they are all hard, but what is going to give you the best jump start?

if i could...i would eat naps like fucking pezzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!

anadrol gave me headaches (bd greenies)

ive tried naps, thai pinks, animal power, ttokyo, and qv dbol.

naps are king

freakfestMD · « **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2006, 05:22:28 AM »

I've "jumpstarted" with dbol as well as anadrol. Anadrol wins hands down for me. Faster response, crazy strength. All dbol did was get me bloated and gave me headaches.

freeagain · « **Reply #7 on:** April 04, 2006, 05:23:57 AM »

Quote from: bigjohn_bluesfan on April 03, 2006, 07:08:21 PM

Ive had no side effects on test-e and deca.... except oily face and arse

tell me about the oily face , brah....

i get an oily vizog a couple of days after my first test jab .. how f'ucked is that!!

a few weeks into a test cycle .. i look like iv dried my face with a f'uckin chip paper after havin a wash!

biggerisbetter · « **Reply #8 on:** April 04, 2006, 11:49:11 AM »

This depends where you expect your cycle to take you.. If you are looking for only mass gains go with anadrol, but I would prefer d-bol, not as harsh on the liver.. However, if your ultimate goal is quality muscle (a mature cut look) start off with my favorite. WINNIE.

MarkyM · « **Reply #9 on:** April 04, 2006, 12:54:31 PM »

You do not need to complicate that much,..take D-bols and thats it IMO, specially if this is your first cycle. Good luck

Bypass · « **Reply #10 on:** April 04, 2006, 12:59:47 PM »

I've been told you can't start with a "cutter" such as winny, I'm looking for the most mass and str possible, in a "quick start" compound

MarkyM · « **Reply #11 on:** April 04, 2006, 01:50:02 PM »

Try Testosterone Suspension!

DIVISION · « **Reply #12 on:** April 04, 2006, 03:42:00 PM »

Quote from: Bypass on April 04, 2006, 12:59:47 PM

I've been told you can't start with a "cutter" such as winny, I'm looking for the most mass and str possible, in a "quick start" compound

Winstrol is not a cutter. It's a versatile anabolic that is mainly used for athletic performance, not for cosmetic purposes. Bodybuilders like to use it to cut, but honestly, Tren is better.

Stop thinking in terms of bodybuilding, it will only stunt your perspective.

DIV

Bypass · « **Reply #13 on:** April 04, 2006, 03:53:01 PM »

Wow...never heard that Div, thanks, I've only seen or heard about Winny in a cutting stack, except for Barry Bonds of course...never even thought of Winny as a component to a major stack.

Rimbaud · « **Reply #14 on:** April 04, 2006, 04:40:30 PM »

Quote from: Bypass on April 04, 2006, 12:59:47 PM

I've been told you can't start with a "cutter" such as winny, I'm looking for the most mass and str possible, in a "quick start" compound

If you're looking for the most mass quickly at the beginning try anadrol. I've heard & seen people do great things with it (I saw a guy gain about fifteen pounds in four weeks). I've never used it but I've got a little so for my next cycle I'll be "jumpstarting" it for three weeks with anadrol (75mg ed). You could also try Dbol. It works just fine for me.

ZEEK · « **Reply #15 on:** April 04, 2006, 04:53:45 PM »

winstrol is a cutting agent
the way its broken down makes it a great cutting agent.
thats why body builders and alot of others use it as a cutting agent.

Arnold jr · « **Reply #16 on:** April 04, 2006, 07:24:01 PM »

Quote from: ZEEK on April 04, 2006, 04:53:45 PM

winstrol is a cutting agent
the way its broken down makes it a great cutting agent.
thats why body builders and alot of others use it as a cutting agent.

DIVISION · « **Reply #17 on:** April 04, 2006, 08:24:11 PM »

Quote from: ZEEK on April 04, 2006, 04:53:45 PM

winstrol is a cutting agent
the way its broken down makes it a great cutting agent.
thats why body builders and alot of others use it as a cutting agent.

Bodybuilders use it for cutting.

That doesn't classify it as a cutting agent.

It used mainly for athletics.......remember the Olympic sprinter Ben Johnson who got popped for Winstrol in his system?

Also, Fernando Vargas and James Toney were popped for Winstrol in boxing matches.

Cyclists use it, so do Swimmers...

It's a potent anabolic.........

DIV

freakfestMD · « **Reply #18 on:** April 05, 2006, 06:18:25 AM »

Quote from: DIVISION on April 04, 2006, 08:24:11 PM

Bodybuilders use it for cutting.

That doesn't classify it as a cutting agent.

DIV

^Yes!!

It's reputation is that it is a cutting agent per se, but this is pure misconception.

It is USED during a cutting phase typically because it can help counteract estrogenic side effects such as water retention and gyno. As a 5-alpha reduced substrate (i.e. 5-alpha reduction breaks the double bond between the 4th and 5th position--required for aromatase induced conversion to estrogen), winny may also have some use in blocking estrogen conversion from other compounds it is stacked with. It also has some anti-progestagenic effects.

So, it continues to act as a strong anabolic, and may help you preserve muscle towards the end of your cycle when your other cutting techniques are being employed.

DIVISION · « **Reply #19 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:50:33 PM »

Quote from: freakfestMD on April 05, 2006, 06:18:25 AM

It also has some anti-progestagenic effects.

^This is one of the reasons I use it with Deca.

DIV

Arnold jr · « **Reply #20 on:** April 05, 2006, 03:03:27 PM »

Quote from: DIVISION on April 04, 2006, 08:24:11 PM

Bodybuilders use it for cutting.

That doesn't classify it as a cutting agent.

It used mainly for athletics.......remember the Olympic sprinter Ben Johnson who got popped for Winstrol in his system?

Also, Fernando Vargas and James Toney were popped for Winstrol in boxing matches.

Cyclists use it, so do Swimmers...

It's a potent anabolic.........

DIV
[/quote
Exactly!

Test/deca/winny cycle is one of my favorite "bulking" cycles...very simple, very efficient Winny is just as good while bulking.

bigjohn_bluesfan · « **Reply #21 on:** April 05, 2006, 10:15:17 PM »

Quote from: freakfestMD on April 04, 2006, 05:22:28 AM

I've "jumpstarted" with dbol as well as anadrol. Anadrol wins hands down for me. Faster response, crazy strength. All dbol did was get me bloated and gave me headaches.

d-bol makes me like a bull in the gym and feel like im gonna puke the rest the day

ZEEK · « **Reply #22 on:** April 05, 2006, 10:43:48 PM »

yummy love d-bol
and pussy too

put 4 or 5 pink tab between those pink pussy lips
lick and swallow and you have a great boost for your workout.

yummy