Carrie Fisher-Crack Head.

[NelsonMuntz]

Sobriety is a wonderful thing but if people who have those issues let down their guard for more than a bit, no matter how much time can relapse.

I think this is what probably happened, and at age 61 considring what she put her body through all her life substance wise it probably was the last straw.

Wouldn't be surprised if all she did was one or two things like coke and other shit was mixed in the blow, that has been known to happen alot lately, last weekend seven overdoses outside of toronto because the blow they were taking had fentanyl mixed in.

years ago you had drug dealers having to mix 10 parts this to 1 part that, now its 10 parts this to 1/100 of this fentanyl shit, and lets be frank, most dealers probably failed both math and chemistry in school and were not experts at chemistry like the whole walter white breaking bad nonsense fantasy.

I hope that the people making fun of her, being smug girls and calling her "weak" never get into an accident or something and get hooked on pain meds after. That is a typical spiral for those who "never in their life did drugs before" these days (oh brother   )

I have seen too many people who never would touch anything in their lives end up addicted to shit because of medical circumstances that happened which were out of their control, and the doctors, pharm companies and government play the pretent faux sympathy card but are full of shit and part of the problem in the end

[HockeyFightFan]

Born with a silver spoon in her mouth, died with it up her nose.

Killed her mother.

Made out with her brother Luke.

[Never1AShow]

Born with a silver spoon in her mouth, died with it up her nose.

Killed her mother.

Made out with her brother Luke.

Kids born into a nice middle class lifestyle, even lower middle class, probably better off than some kid whose parents are Hollywood stars, never home, partying, raised by nannies, exposed to all kinds of crazy shit early.

[ESFitness]

esfitness along shortly to tell of how he went on a few benders with Carrie and always took double what she took.

I occupy so much space in your tiny little grapefruit sized skull. Pathetic.

[ESFitness]

Sobriety is a wonderful thing but if people who have those issues let down their guard for more than a bit, no matter how much time can relapse.

I think this is what probably happened, and at age 61 considring what she put her body through all her life substance wise it probably was the last straw.

Wouldn't be surprised if all she did was one or two things like coke and other shit was mixed in the blow, that has been known to happen alot lately, last weekend seven overdoses outside of toronto because the blow they were taking had fentanyl mixed in.

years ago you had drug dealers having to mix 10 parts this to 1 part that, now its 10 parts this to 1/100 of this fentanyl shit, and lets be frank, most dealers probably failed both math and chemistry in school and were not experts at chemistry like the whole walter white breaking bad nonsense fantasy.

I hope that the people making fun of her, being smug girls and calling her "weak" never get into an accident or something and get hooked on pain meds after. That is a typical spiral for those who "never in their life did drugs before" these days (oh brother  ::) )

I have seen too many people who never would touch anything in their lives end up addicted to shit because of medical circumstances that happened which were out of their control, and the doctors, pharm companies and government play the pretent faux sympathy card but are full of shit and part of the problem in the end

This.

Nobody starts out with heroin.. Usually anyways.

I was an athlete all through school. Straight-edge. Couldn't stand potheads. Still can't. Didnt drink my first beer till I was 20 and suffering from insomnia from opiate withdrawal after a shoulder injury at 18 when it was either painkillers or surgery. And the painkiller wasn't supposed to be addictive. Wasn't like I started out with Vicodin or Percocet. Then after 12yrs clean, another neck injury & degenerated discs and Dr suggests painkillers and in say no thanks to Vicodin and take ultra instead, since that too wasn't supposed to be addictive.wrong again. Then after seeming myself down from my prescribed 8 per day down to 3 and they change the scheduling of Ultram and suddenly my doctor only writes prescriptions for three weeks worth leaving me in withdrawal for only still full week until I can get another scheduled doctor's appointment and all this time I still have to go to work and work 12-14 hour days and function in the gym and still train myself and then just dumb luck a couple days into it I get a phone call from one of my customers asking if I knew anybody who wanted to buy some Dilaudid tablets to which I said no. Couple days later calls again asks again and I'm still in withdrawal from the fucking all tram and I think "hmm these may hold me over till i renew my script", & before you know I I go through over a 1000 in just over a month and find myself Landing in Cancun on vacation in withdrawal and can't wait to get to the resort to crush up the 7 tablets that I brought with and snort them. And then spend the whole 2 weeks or so in all inclusive resorts drinking pina coladas morning till night to cover up the withdrawal. Then back in the States I find out that I had bought all of the ladies Dilaudid tablets that she had and she had some morphine tablets I said none of those suck I know the pharmacokinetics of them to which she says all her heroin friends love those when they can't get any heroin so I think well why don't you give me some heroin then that's got to be cheaper and just as effective and before you know it I'm shooting heroin and wasting $78,014 over the next year-and-a-half to two years and back to drinking vodka to try to come off the heroin and ending up in rehab.

[TheAnimal]

This.

Nobody starts out with heroin.. Usually anyways.

I was an athlete all through school. Straight-edge. Couldn't stand potheads. Still can't. Didnt drink my first beer till I was 20 and suffering from insomnia from opiate withdrawal after a shoulder injury at 18 when it was either painkillers or surgery. And the painkiller wasn't supposed to be addictive. Wasn't like I started out with Vicodin or Percocet. Then after 12yrs clean, another neck injury & degenerated discs and Dr suggests painkillers and in say no thanks to Vicodin and take ultra instead, since that too wasn't supposed to be addictive.wrong again. Then after seeming myself down from my prescribed 8 per day down to 3 and they change the scheduling of Ultram and suddenly my doctor only writes prescriptions for three weeks worth leaving me in withdrawal for only still full week until I can get another scheduled doctor's appointment and all this time I still have to go to work and work 12-14 hour days and function in the gym and still train myself and then just dumb luck a couple days into it I get a phone call from one of my customers asking if I knew anybody who wanted to buy some Dilaudid tablets to which I said no. Couple days later calls again asks again and I'm still in withdrawal from the fucking all tram and I think "hmm these may hold me over till i renew my script", & before you know I I go through over a 1000 in just over a month and find myself Landing in Cancun on vacation in withdrawal and can't wait to get to the resort to crush up the 7 tablets that I brought with and snort them. And then spend the whole 2 weeks or so in all inclusive resorts drinking pina coladas morning till night to cover up the withdrawal. Then back in the States I find out that I had bought all of the ladies Dilaudid tablets that she had and she had some morphine tablets I said none of those suck I know the pharmacokinetics of them to which she says all her heroin friends love those when they can't get any heroin so I think well why don't you give me some heroin then that's got to be cheaper and just as effective and before you know it I'm shooting heroin and wasting $78,014 over the next year-and-a-half to two years and back to drinking vodka to try to come off the heroin and ending up in rehab.

How do you know with such precision ($14 on top of $78000) how much you spent?

Did you record the amount?

[Simple Simon]

This.

Nobody starts out with heroin.. Usually anyways.

I was an athlete all through school. Straight-edge. Couldn't stand potheads. Still can't. Didnt drink my first beer till I was 20 and suffering from insomnia from opiate withdrawal after a shoulder injury at 18 when it was either painkillers or surgery. And the painkiller wasn't supposed to be addictive. Wasn't like I started out with Vicodin or Percocet. Then after 12yrs clean, another neck injury & degenerated discs and Dr suggests painkillers and in say no thanks to Vicodin and take ultra instead, since that too wasn't supposed to be addictive.wrong again. Then after seeming myself down from my prescribed 8 per day down to 3 and they change the scheduling of Ultram and suddenly my doctor only writes prescriptions for three weeks worth leaving me in withdrawal for only still full week until I can get another scheduled doctor's appointment and all this time I still have to go to work and work 12-14 hour days and function in the gym and still train myself and then just dumb luck a couple days into it I get a phone call from one of my customers asking if I knew anybody who wanted to buy some Dilaudid tablets to which I said no. Couple days later calls again asks again and I'm still in withdrawal from the fucking all tram and I think "hmm these may hold me over till i renew my script", & before you know I I go through over a 1000 in just over a month and find myself Landing in Cancun on vacation in withdrawal and can't wait to get to the resort to crush up the 7 tablets that I brought with and snort them. And then spend the whole 2 weeks or so in all inclusive resorts drinking pina coladas morning till night to cover up the withdrawal. Then back in the States I find out that I had bought all of the ladies Dilaudid tablets that she had and she had some morphine tablets I said none of those suck I know the pharmacokinetics of them to which she says all her heroin friends love those when they can't get any heroin so I think well why don't you give me some heroin then that's got to be cheaper and just as effective and before you know it I'm shooting heroin and wasting $78,014 over the next year-and-a-half to two years and back to drinking vodka to try to come off the heroin and ending up in rehab.

and still managed to train Fabio and Linda Lee, have numerous cage fights in Mexico and water ski over a shark in a leather jacket.

[falco]

This.

Nobody starts out with heroin.. Usually anyways.

I was an athlete all through school. Straight-edge. Couldn't stand potheads. Still can't. Didnt drink my first beer till I was 20 and suffering from insomnia from opiate withdrawal after a shoulder injury at 18 when it was either painkillers or surgery. And the painkiller wasn't supposed to be addictive. Wasn't like I started out with Vicodin or Percocet. Then after 12yrs clean, another neck injury & degenerated discs and Dr suggests painkillers and in say no thanks to Vicodin and take ultra instead, since that too wasn't supposed to be addictive.wrong again. Then after seeming myself down from my prescribed 8 per day down to 3 and they change the scheduling of Ultram and suddenly my doctor only writes prescriptions for three weeks worth leaving me in withdrawal for only still full week until I can get another scheduled doctor's appointment and all this time I still have to go to work and work 12-14 hour days and function in the gym and still train myself and then just dumb luck a couple days into it I get a phone call from one of my customers asking if I knew anybody who wanted to buy some Dilaudid tablets to which I said no. Couple days later calls again asks again and I'm still in withdrawal from the fucking all tram and I think "hmm these may hold me over till i renew my script", & before you know I I go through over a 1000 in just over a month and find myself Landing in Cancun on vacation in withdrawal and can't wait to get to the resort to crush up the 7 tablets that I brought with and snort them. And then spend the whole 2 weeks or so in all inclusive resorts drinking pina coladas morning till night to cover up the withdrawal. Then back in the States I find out that I had bought all of the ladies Dilaudid tablets that she had and she had some morphine tablets I said none of those suck I know the pharmacokinetics of them to which she says all her heroin friends love those when they can't get any heroin so I think well why don't you give me some heroin then that's got to be cheaper and just as effective and before you know it I'm shooting heroin and wasting $78,014 over the next year-and-a-half to two years and back to drinking vodka to try to come off the heroin and ending up in rehab.

I have been on opiate meds before my cervical hernia surgery, and didn't got hooked up to it. Also used valium as a muscle relaxant and didn't got hooked up.
The user must have the willpower to get out of it, once health is restored, otherwise you spend your life in semi state of zombieness.

[Simple Simon]

I have been on opiate meds before my cervical hernia surgery, and didn't got hooked up to it. Also used valium as a muscle relaxant and didn't got hooked up.
The user must have the willpower to get out of it, once health is restored, otherwise you spend your life in semi state of zombieness.

the willpower gene must be intrinsically linked to the existence of the fear gene.
You cant have one without the other.

[Van_Bilderass]

I have been on opiate meds before my cervical hernia surgery, and didn't got hooked up to it. Also used valium as a muscle relaxant and didn't got hooked up.
The user must have the willpower to get out of it, once health is restored, otherwise you spend your life in semi state of zombieness.

I have heard doctors say that you don't get hooked as easily if you truly take meds for real pain for a "short" period of time. Some people also don't have preexisting emotional pain where they immediately notice a particular drug is a wonderful "cure" for that too. These people don't enjoy getting high, I know lots of these, they don't see the point in rec use at all so they are less likely to get hooked on anything.

"Willpower" maybe doesn't have so much to do with it. We are all wired differently. In general I see humans as having a lot less control over ourselves than we think. We are like puppets and our genes are the puppetmasters.

[Redux]

it would have been easier to list the drugs that crusty ole liberal whore wasn't on than the ones she was

[Fortress]

it would have been easier to list the drugs that crusty ole liberal whore wasn't on than the ones she was

Woke and, yep, still glad she's dead.

[stuntmovie]

Speaking of 'drugs' .... has anyone on this Board been contacted by a legit agency to possibly become a MYOSTATIN case test subject?