GOP senate healthcare bill has 17% approval with US voters

[Conker]

you idiots are too stupid to realise that your sytem is "socialised medicine" too. you just pay into an insurance pool instead of a state pool. you don't pay for healthcare at the point of use.

you're just getting fked hard in the @ss by the insurance industry while millions still have no cover.

[Coach is Back!]

you idiots are too stupid to realise that your sytem is "socialised medicine" too. you just pay into an insurance pool instead of a state pool. you don't pay for healthcare at the point of use.

you're just getting fked hard in the @ss by the insurance industry while millions still have no cover.

When do you expect the next influx of Euro's and Canadians into the US for their next medical procedures?

[Howard]

When do you expect the next influx of Euro's and Canadians into the US for their next medical procedures?

You do know that aprox. 30% of every US health care dollar goes to the outside investors who buy the stock.
The first 30% doesn't go to a Doc, drug company, hospital, clinic , etc...it goes to an investor.
The cost of healthcare could be reduced by 30% if you left the "for profit" investors out of the loop.

To be clear this 30% has NOTHING to do with any aspect of the medical care , drugs or organizations.
I'm not opposed to investors making $$ , but making 30% off treating illness ,seems obsessive .

Public Utilities like electric companies have a regulated or fixed profit model that most states use.
Investors make a fair profit that is regulated by KW-hr unit cost max and min rates.
I'm no expert but most Utility investments yield around 8-10%.

Using a public utility regulated investor model could reduce health care costs by 20% without reverting to single payer.
That would be my solution.

[AbrahamG]

When do you expect the next influx of Euro's and Canadians into the US for their next medical procedures?

There is no influx you retard. 

[Coach is Back!]

There is no influx you retard. 

Because they're constantly coming over for our health care you retard.

[AbrahamG]

Because they're constantly coming over for our health care you retard.

No stupid, they are not.  Canadian millionaires may choose to come here for cancer treatments as that is the one area where we
have good if not great results.  But for everyday healthcare, they do not.

[whork]

Because they're constantly coming over for our health care you retard.

You watch to much fake news you filthy wetback

[Conker]

When do you expect the next influx of Euro's and Canadians into the US for their next medical procedures?

not sure. but i would bet there's more americans going abroad for healthcare than those coming in.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/08/17/14-Million-Americans-Will-Go-Abroad-Medical-Care-Year-Should-You

no doubt US healthcare is great for those who are filthy rich whether in the US or abroad but that doesn't really help the masses does it.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=4509618

[Conker]

You do know that aprox. 30% of every US health care dollar goes to the outside investors who buy the stock.
The first 30% doesn't go to a Doc, drug company, hospital, clinic , etc...it goes to an investor.
The cost of healthcare could be reduced by 30% if you left the "for profit" investors out of the loop.

To be clear this 30% has NOTHING to do with any aspect of the medical care , drugs or organizations.
I'm not opposed to investors making $$ , but making 30% off treating illness ,seems obsessive .

Public Utilities like electric companies have a regulated or fixed profit model that most states use.
Investors make a fair profit that is regulated by KW-hr unit cost max and min rates.
I'm no expert but most Utility investments yield around 8-10%.

Using a public utility regulated investor model could reduce health care costs by 20% without reverting to single payer.
That would be my solution.

i really don't see why you people are so scared of a "single payer" system. you have single payer police and fire services. to my understanding competition is supposed to drive efficiency up and price down or at least result in a good level of value for money. if you're paying nearly double (as a proportion of gdp) than the rest of industrialised world for your healthcare and millions are still not covered and you're healthcare system doesn't even rank favourably. then obviously "competition" is not having the desired effect.

[Coach is Back!]

No stupid, they are not.  Canadian millionaires may choose to come here for cancer treatments as that is the one area where we
have good if not great results.  But for everyday healthcare, they do not.

I didn't say for everyday healthcare. Facts are facts, in a socialized healthcare system people with life threatening conditions often are put on waiting lists with cases being put on lists so long they often die before they get a chance to move on with their treatments after diagnosis which is why they choose to come here to get quicker treatment. I'm not saying the care in Canada is bad, it's the wait that will kill you.  This has been going on since the days of socialized medicine. It's nothing knew.