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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #175 on: January 10, 2015, 07:21:58 PM »
Most elite fighters win until their skills begin to diminish. Then they lose. It isn't all about their aura, it's much more about those skills diminishing.
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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #176 on: January 10, 2015, 08:11:10 PM »
Quote from: Leatherneck on January 10, 2015, 07:21:58 PM
Most elite fighters win until their skills begin to diminish. Then they lose. It isn't all about their aura, it's much more about those skills diminishing.

Do you think Anderson's skills were "diminishing" when he got his ass handed back to him by CW? Do you think Tyson's skills were on the way down when he lost to Buster Douglas right after the later lost his mother and was in I-don't-a-shit mode?

No, it has nothing to do with "aura". Take a look at what Mike used to say about the majority of boxers he knocked out:

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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #177 on: January 10, 2015, 08:19:06 PM »
Quote from: Slapper on January 10, 2015, 07:50:21 AM
I always use this analogy: How do you eat a soft shell crab? You start with the legs and work your way to the body.


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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #178 on: January 10, 2015, 08:40:59 PM »
Did tall man win?
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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #179 on: January 11, 2015, 05:13:32 PM »
Quote from: Slapper on January 10, 2015, 06:02:11 PM
I know how to handle him? Dude, 99% of the people he's fought lose the fight before they step into the ring. The Jones aura is bigger than Silva's.

Mark my words: Someone's going to beat him eventually and, all of a sudden, Jones is going to start getting beaten left and right because people will then know he's beatable.

Wow! For someone who has never stepped into the cage professionally you sure know Jones and all the other fighters quite well. How much time have you spent with Jones and the other fighters that you  know so much what goes on in their heads? Why aren't you a pro?

And EVERYONE gets beat eventually.
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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #180 on: January 11, 2015, 05:16:21 PM »
Quote from: Slapper on January 10, 2015, 08:11:10 PM
Do you think Anderson's skills were "diminishing" when he got his ass handed back to him by CW? Do you think Tyson's skills were on the way down when he lost to Buster Douglas right after the later lost his mother and was in I-don't-a-shit mode?

No, it has nothing to do with "aura". Take a look at what Mike used to say about the majority of boxers he knocked out:



So what was so special about Buster Douglas that made him unaffected by Tyson's aura that was the undoing of so many other established and experienced pros that got destroyed by Tyson? How did Tyson develop such an aura that overcame his opponents when he was 19 and still relatively unknown?
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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #181 on: January 11, 2015, 05:29:10 PM »
Quote from: pellius on January 11, 2015, 05:16:21 PM
So what was so special about Buster Douglas that made him unaffected by Tyson's aura that was the undoing of so many other established and experienced pros that got destroyed by Tyson? How did Tyson develop such an aura that overcame his opponents when he was 19 and still relatively unknown?

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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #182 on: January 11, 2015, 05:58:37 PM »
Quote from: pellius on January 11, 2015, 05:16:21 PM
So what was so special about Buster Douglas that made him unaffected by Tyson's aura that was the undoing of so many other established and experienced pros that got destroyed by Tyson? How did Tyson develop such an aura that overcame his opponents when he was 19 and still relatively unknown?

I don't know what it was, but in some of the fights you could tell who was scared and who wasn't. In the first fight against Ruddock Mike, allegedly, looked at Razor during the stare-down and told him "You know I'm going to kill you right?," to which the taller fighter responded "I know".
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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #183 on: January 11, 2015, 06:06:57 PM »
Quote from: pellius on January 11, 2015, 05:16:21 PM
So what was so special about Buster Douglas that made him unaffected by Tyson's aura that was the undoing of so many other established and experienced pros that got destroyed by Tyson? How did Tyson develop such an aura that overcame his opponents when he was 19 and still relatively unknown?
Slapper  is clueless .
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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #184 on: January 12, 2015, 06:08:14 AM »
Quote from: Slapper on January 11, 2015, 05:58:37 PM
I don't know what it was, but in some of the fights you could tell who was scared and who wasn't. In the first fight against Ruddock Mike, allegedly, looked at Razor during the stare-down and told him "You know I'm going to kill you right?," to which the taller fighter responded "I know".

What? I didn't get that at all! Ruddock looked very willing to take on Tyson. Tyson had already lost to Douglas and his "aura" of invincibility was shattered. Ruddock lasted a lot longer than most of Tyson's opponents and the fight was stopped in the 7th round. A stoppage that most felt was premature.

To say that Ruddock went into that fight "knowing" that he will "get killed" is simply not true. If it was as obvious as you claim it was why hasn't anybody else, any commentators and experts, make that same observation?

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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #185 on: January 16, 2015, 09:55:51 PM »
Quote from: Slapper on January 10, 2015, 06:02:11 PM
I know how to handle him? Dude, 99% of the people he's fought lose the fight before they step into the ring. The Jones aura is bigger than Silva's.

Mark my words: Someone's going to beat him eventually and, all of a sudden, Jones is going to start getting beaten left and right because people will then know he's beatable.

Not at light heavyweight he won't.

His competition is simply too small and will never overcome his reach. And we've seen what happens when he fights someone closer to his own size, so he'd just be another so so fighter at heavyweight.
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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #186 on: January 16, 2015, 10:12:46 PM »
Quote from: Royalty on December 30, 2014, 03:24:59 PM

I'm kinda rooting for Cormier.

But I wouldn't mind seeing Jones win. I think both fighters.
They are both fighters, but I think Cormier will outsize him.

Not sure if he will match this form of his though!

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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #187 on: January 16, 2015, 10:14:44 PM »
Edit: Just saw that Jones won. Anybody have stage pics so we can compare?
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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #188 on: January 20, 2015, 11:44:39 PM »
UFC return of CroCop in April  :o
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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #189 on: January 21, 2015, 12:49:49 AM »
Quote from: Teutonic Knight on January 20, 2015, 11:44:39 PM
UFC return of CroCop in April  :o

WOW!!! Awesome man!
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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #190 on: January 21, 2015, 06:45:01 AM »
Quote from: Teutonic Knight on January 20, 2015, 11:44:39 PM
UFC return of CroCop in April  :o

return of the "constanty circling around the opponent so that he can excute the classical right high round kick of his, but has already been figured out and his muay thai style of fighting will not work in the modern world, ever"

crocops highlight reel is awesome tho!
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Re: Finally, Jones vs. Cormier
« Reply #191 on: January 21, 2015, 03:48:11 PM »
Quote from: devilsmile on January 21, 2015, 06:45:01 AM
return of the "constanty circling around the opponent so that he can excute the classical right high round kick of his, but has already been figured out and his muay thai style of fighting will not work in the modern world, ever"

crocops highlight reel is awesome tho!

He 'kill' that Jap Olympic champion on the 31st December, Mirko is in great shape looks lighter & Fedor was with him ?.

Supposedly Bellator wanted him but UFC & $$$  ???


Would be great if Fedor show up with CroCop at UFC show  :D
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Re: UFC 182 - Jon Jones vs. Daniel Cormier!
« Reply #192 on: August 22, 2017, 05:33:22 PM »
Stripped of title , tested positive for steroids
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Re: UFC 182 - Jon Jones vs. Daniel Cormier!
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