"steroids were never part of the conversation, we just talked about training, cardio and diet" - Jay on his relationship with Chris Aceto
The context of the conversation is around the recent deaths in bodybuilding and how steroids has gotten out of hand.
"No one has ever died from steroids" - another classic
Jay goes on to talk about how testing for diuretics is a waste of time because they willl always find a way to beat the test. Its ironic that Jay didn't talk about how he should have DQ'd after he failed the 2001 Olympia diuretic test. Jay cleverly threatened to sue the IFBB. Wayne chickened out and dropped it.