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Re: Phil Heath - The Phil Heath SWAGGER Video - 12-25-17
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2017, 02:14:25 PM »
Thx for answering the question. The difference between Ali, Arnold & Heath is that
the 2 before had massive charisma & much of what they said and did was a goof. Like
the things Arnold said in PI. They were made to paint him in a certain light; but it was much scripted.
Ali & Arnold seem like very secure men whereas Phil seems insecure many times in his words and actions. Maybe I"m missing your intent but I think of Ali & Arnold; especially Ali as a MAN. Heath seems
like his growth in some areas stopped at some place. Hell, I don't know the man personally but
the whole weekend warrior thing seemed to come out of insecurity.

We could argue about it and give examples for several pages, but that's not really something I'm interested in.  Whether or not Ali and Arnold had more charisma is subjective, as is whether or not Phil's trash talking is more serious. (For the record, they both did have more charisma, but that wasn't really my point.) I just don't think Phil has done anything that terrible. Whenever I hear the rundown of why he's allegedly such a shitbag, it's always so underwhelming.  I will say this in regards to that weekend warrior comment- I think that's been overblown and misconstrued. He said maybe it's meant to appeal to guys who WANT TO BE weekend warrior athletes and still play ball on the weekends. Carrying open level mass and maintaining it isn't conducive to that. In context, to me, it was clear he wasn't saying that classic guys only workout on the weekends. In that video he specifically says that it would be a gateway for people who competed in other sports at a high level and a lot of competitors will eventually move to open. A big reason for the weight restrictions is because the competitors are constantly trying to move up and half of the guys competing in classic are doing so because they outgrew physique. So there's  not really anything outrageous or inaccurate about that statement. That to me is the essence of how people react to him.  When you dislike someone, you will find a reason to dislike anything they do, especially if they are generally successful.


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Re: Phil Heath - The Phil Heath SWAGGER Video - 12-25-17
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2017, 04:04:59 PM »
We could argue about it and give examples for several pages, but that's not really something I'm interested in.  Whether or not Ali and Arnold had more charisma is subjective, as is whether or not Phil's trash talking is more serious. (For the record, they both did have more charisma, but that wasn't really my point.) I just don't think Phil has done anything that terrible. Whenever I hear the rundown of why he's allegedly such a shitbag, it's always so underwhelming.  I will say this in regards to that weekend warrior comment- I think that's been overblown and misconstrued. He said maybe it's meant to appeal to guys who WANT TO BE weekend warrior athletes and still play ball on the weekends. Carrying open level mass and maintaining it isn't conducive to that. In context, to me, it was clear he wasn't saying that classic guys only workout on the weekends. In that video he specifically says that it would be a gateway for people who competed in other sports at a high level and a lot of competitors will eventually move to open. A big reason for the weight restrictions is because the competitors are constantly trying to move up and half of the guys competing in classic are doing so because they outgrew physique. So there's  not really anything outrageous or inaccurate about that statement. That to me is the essence of how people react to him.  When you dislike someone, you will find a reason to dislike anything they do, especially if they are generally successful.



In this relatively new social media age everything gets blown out of proportion. Most of
what Phil says I could give a rip. He was making a statement on how in today's
bodybuilding leg's, glutes and hams are way more important than Arnold's times.
Instead of saying something like Arnold had no legs compared to today's guys he
could of explained it like I did right before that. Kai screws a grapefruit & has his penis in
a man's face with a towel over the dudes face; danced instead of working a regular job & people don't care.
 I don't really care either. i didn't really realize there was as much dislike for Phil until all the negative
comments. People play roles on here & sometimes they may be playing their negative alter
ego who slams everything. Obviously, if I had any bad feelings towards someone who has no
bearing on my own life, I wouldn't have made a somewhat flattering video on him.
Whenever I hear the rundown of why he's allegedly such a shitbag, it's always so underwhelming.
Very good point!

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Re: Phil Heath - The Phil Heath SWAGGER Video - 12-25-17
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2017, 08:52:51 AM »
Obviously, if I had any bad feelings towards someone who has no
bearing on my own life, I wouldn't have made a somewhat flattering video on him.

Haha I watched your video and I don't know if you know this, but you have someone calling you out in a response video for making a video that inflates heath's massive ego.

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Re: Phil Heath - The Phil Heath SWAGGER Video - 12-25-17
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2017, 03:08:06 PM »
Haha I watched your video and I don't know if you know this, but you have someone calling you out in a response video for making a video that inflates heath's massive ego.

Thx for letting me know. I found it and was laughing the whole time.
It really is funny but I take no offense. It's one thing that makes the internet great
and this guy got to speak his mind on it. It wasn't to build up Phil's ego
but just a simple video showing his confident/cocky walk to stage
that would hopefully be a little entertaining.