What ever happened to the DC training guy ,true protein Dante

[Mobil]

I remember that "Cycle for Pennies" thread many years ago on animal's board. ESF pretty much summed it up.
There was no need for exoctic compounds and complicated cycles. Just the old stand by: Test, Deca, dbol. Training principles were focused on intensity, progression and recovery. To increase reps and/or resistance every workout. No willy/nilly going through the motions. Have a goal. If you did 8 reps the last workout you better get 9 the next or die trying. Basic pushing and pulling movements with a barbell. No need to hit every conceivable angle with cables and a host of machines spend all day or night at the gym for hours day after day. It's not about "upping the dose" but upping the weight on the bar. And you have to eat and eat a lot. You are not going to grow unless you are on a caloric surplus. If you want to be ripped year round with a beach body this is not for you. Dante never pissed on the guys who wanted the "swimmer's" body so many mock here. If that's your thing -- fine. But if you want to get huge then you have to get in those meals and move the weights and then move more weights.

He realize you don't grow in a linear fashion so his program called for the Blast and Cruise method similar to Trevor Smith. Cruise periods on eating, training and hormones. This is both for systemic recovery and mental recovery. Not going "stale" as they use to say in the old days.

Like ESF said, nothing new just with this new generation so much has just been forgotten. It always amazes me at how so many people will find so many different ways to do a simply pushing or pulling, bending or straightening, movement wrong.

i do cable rows...like i was taught...."like your rowing a boat". so ill pull forward and ill pull all the way back...see guys keep there back strait and use all biceps to pull the weight...the point of that exercise to work your back not your bis..thats why they are called rows

[chess315]

i do cable rows...like i was taught...."like your rowing a boat". so ill pull forward and ill pull all the way back...see guys keep there back strait and use all biceps to pull the weight...the point of that exercise to work your back not your bis..thats why they are called rows cable rows are a fl

cable rows has nothing to do with anything here this program is based on heavy compound lifts like bentrows with  315, 500lb deadlifts, heavychins Jesus Christ cable rows are a fluff exercise at best

[be back]

i do cable rows...like i was taught...."like your rowing a boat". so ill pull forward and ill pull all the way back...see guys keep there back strait and use all biceps to pull the weight...the point of that exercise to work your back not your bis..thats why they are called rows

perfect way to blow a low back disc, no one rows a boat with oars weighing 250lb..

[ESFitness]

i do cable rows...like i was taught...."like your rowing a boat". so ill pull forward and ill pull all the way back...see guys keep there back strait and use all biceps to pull the weight...the point of that exercise to work your back not your bis..thats why they are called rows

Having your back straight turns a cable row into a bicep exercise? That's not correct at all.

 Only way you would turn that into a bicep exercise or even increase biceps to involvement, would be if your back was rounded, thus preventing the back muscles, (the rhomboids in particular, which are the prime movers in a rowing movement. Not the last, as most people believe).

Actually, by leaning back into the movement like your rowing a boat, you're actually shortening the range of motion and recruiting less fibers in your back

[chuckles]

Having your back straight turns a cable row into a bicep exercise? That's not correct at all.

 Only way you would turn that into a bicep exercise or even increase biceps to involvement, would be if your back was rounded, thus preventing the back muscles, (the rhomboids in particular, which are the prime movers in a rowing movement. Not the last, as most people believe).

Actually, by leaning back into the movement like your rowing a boat, you're actually shortening the range of motion and recruiting less fibers in your back

your back should be arched. look at 1.32 never mind all this technical BS. principles are the same regardless of the exercise, T Bars etc.

[be back]

your back should be arched. look at 1.32 never mind all this technical BS. principles are the same regardless of the exercise, T Bars etc.

no, they are not the same

jeez, have you posted a picture yet?

[Nether Animal]

no, they are not the same

jeez, have you posted a picture yet?

Gimmick - won't.

[chuckles]

no, they are not the same

jeez, have you posted a picture yet?

Oh yes you are that guy with the Bulging Disc. Maybe you did this exercise wrong too.

[be back]

Oh yes you are that guy with the Bulging Disc. Maybe you did this exercise wrong too.

you sound familiar...

[chess315]

Cable rows suck

[ratherbebig]

from what i can tell he's still around, same company, loads of photos on facebook etc

might wanna check that out if youre really interested

[ESFitness]

no, they are not the same

jeez, have you posted a picture yet?

Now you say you don't need to each your back with cable rows.  It gets better and better.

[polychronopolous]

Dickeheads... I'd like to point out that Dante and his True Nutrition line of products offer some high quality supplements that you will be hard pressed to find elsewhere.

For example:

Good luck getting Vanilla protein @ 24gms of protein per serving with only 10mg of sodium.

X2

I would talk shit about him on here and then secretly buy his products behind the scenes.

[be back]

Now you say you don't need to each your back with cable rows.  It gets better and better.

No, Im telling him hes wrong when he says all exercises are the same, to get full contraction in the lats you do arch your back, you get your elbows back as far as you can, just look at a competitor do a rear lat spread, back arched, elbows back and you can clearly see all the fibres in the back flexed

Start rounding your back forward on a row could result in a low back injury.

[ratherbebig]

No, Im telling him hes wrong when he says all exercises are the same, to get full contraction in the lats you do arch your back, you get your elbows back as far as you can, just look at a competitor do a rear lat spread, back arched, elbows back and you can clearly see all the fibres in the back flexed

Start rounding your back forward on a row could result in a low back injury.

look mr expert, to get elbows back as far as i can i would have to cut the weightstack in half