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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2018, 09:44:12 PM »
it is what it is.. i didnt create the rules so you gotta really knock out the champ to win

I didn’t say you created the rules. Obviously you didn’t.

I discussed this absurd notion a few weeks ago. Knocking out thto champ is the dumbest thing ever.

They only do this to keep the same person winning year after year.
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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2018, 02:25:37 AM »
I don't find Ramy better than Phil. Doesn't have the quality overall. Kai didn't either. Don't rate Phil as high as the 90's guys but he's the best out there right now.

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2018, 02:45:18 AM »
They will never let Ramy win because of where he’s from.

LOL, I'm no Heath fan by a mile, but he beats this Marcus Ruhl/Dennis James hybrid by a mile. 

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2018, 04:09:48 AM »
Hes ahead of schedule. A good way to fuck it all up...
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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2018, 04:34:57 AM »
I hope he wins. The olympia going to kuwait would reignite "the sport". It's pretty much dead in the USA.

He's got a true olympian physique, with such a small waist on that massive, proportioned frame. Especially when you compare him to lil phillipe, the nasty shit who dumped his wife after shedding some crocodile tears on stage about her cancer.

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2018, 02:09:51 PM »
for whatever reason the judges care the most about how a bodybuilder looks from the back, no matter how flawed they are from the front

ramy's back lacks detail and his hamstrings disappear from the back, while phil looks flawless from the back

that is why phil wins, it's the same reason dorian won

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2018, 05:51:19 PM »
I don't find Ramy better than Phil. Doesn't have the quality overall. Kai didn't either. Don't rate Phil as high as the 90's guys but he's the best out there right now.

Phil has much better quality than Ramy?









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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2018, 05:52:45 PM »
for whatever reason the judges care the most about how a bodybuilder looks from the back, no matter how flawed they are from the front

ramy's back lacks detail and his hamstrings disappear from the back, while phil looks flawless from the back

that is why phil wins, it's the same reason dorian won

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2018, 06:02:52 PM »
for whatever reason the judges care the most about how a bodybuilder looks from the back, no matter how flawed they are from the front

ramy's back lacks detail and his hamstrings disappear from the back, while phil looks flawless from the back

that is why phil wins, it's the same reason dorian won

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Things might be a bit different this year.



Won't be enough, come show time Phil will have a full, puffy back with muscle hanging from the top to bottom of his back. I wish it wasn't so but Phil wins from the back and even if he has a penoris hanging from his navel (again) he will still win.

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2018, 07:42:07 PM »
i personally think if Phil was not the current Mr O.... both head to head... Ramy wins but since phil is the Mr O.... he will continue to win

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2018, 10:00:37 PM »
Every year that Ramy isn't Mr. O, every year bodybuilding spirals down the shitter.  Ramy would belong in the top 6 of any 90's Olympia.  Phil, not so much.

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2018, 02:19:19 AM »
Phil has much better quality than Ramy?




Still frames don't tell the whole story. Ramy looked good at times last year but also didn't have the look standing next to Phil. Bonac could probably beat both of them anyway overall.


I don't disagree Ramy is bigger and has a better structure. He can come in ripped, and Phil comes in with a bloated gut. Phil just is complete overall in bodyparts and quality and Ramy hasn't been.







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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2018, 02:30:57 AM »
Phil has a glazed over bubble gut. It ruins everything from the front. People are sick of the distended bellied. Ramy just destroys Phil in the ab department. Despite his size, he has no bubble gut and clean, defined, ripped and dry abs. For some reason people try to look at Phil in the best possible light and look at Ramy in the worse.

As someone said earlier, if wasn't the champ and he was just going against Ramy on equal terms where they were just fellow competitors Ramy would place ahead of Phil.

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2018, 07:02:58 AM »
Ramy is starting to fall from grace, like phildo has been.

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2018, 03:10:46 PM »
Ramy is starting to fall from grace, like phildo has been.

Why? And what makes you say this? Maybe on this board but I haven't read it on other boards.
It's Phil that keeps going further and further down in popularity every time he opens his mouth.
Ramy, just by virtue of keeping and much lower profile and focusing on his training rather than social
media, keeps him out of the crosshairs.

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2018, 08:03:05 PM »
Phil has much better quality than Ramy?





these pics remind me of when nasser lost to dorian in 97

like i said, it seems all the judges care about is the back

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2018, 12:44:56 AM »
Ramy absolutely destroying Phil from the front. Phil does beat him from the back, but it’s not as glaring as Ramy’s shoulder structure being far superior to Phil. Ramy also has abs without the bubble gut and penoris. Shouldn’t even be debatable that Ramy looks far superior to Heath.

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2018, 03:07:43 AM »
Ramy absolutely destroying Phil from the front. Phil does beat him from the back, but it’s not as glaring as Ramy’s shoulder structure being far superior to Phil. Ramy also has abs without the bubble gut and penoris. Shouldn’t even be debatable that Ramy looks far superior to Heath.

There you go. Sure the back counts for a lot but it's an exaggeration to say that judges tend to favor those with the best back. It's only one half of the body and I don't even think it's more important than the front. You are mostly looking at a bodybuilders front, any person's front. I think this thinking came from the Dorian and Coleman era. But Jay wasn't known for his back and neither was Dexter. And both Dorian and Coleman utterly dominated the competition from the back. Phil does not bury Ramy from the back. And if you've seen recent pics of Ramy that back more than holds it own. That Nick guy who lives for this stuff claims the currently improvement pictured is "Dorian-est". Maybe, but Ramy keeps improving. Phil is not.

Phil has some very strong points. Of course, he has, he been the Mr. Olympia seven times in a row now.
That back, and of course his arms, and I think his quads are perfectly proportioned with calves to match.
But he has such glaring flaws. Of course the shoulder width he is cursed with and can't do much about.
In front shots, his head looks so big. And then there's that glazed over bubble gut. He can't get his abs to come out sharp anymore.

Maybe judges do overly favor the back shots and score it higher overall. But I think that might be changing and that they are focusing more on the guts now because it's just gotten out of hand and the public is sick of it.

We can only hope.

Look how Phil's abs has glazed over. Doesn't even have a clear four pack anymore let alone a six pack.
Phil has some very strong points but he now has some very glaring and important weak points. We tolerate judges overlooking weak calves now we're supposed to ignore the most prominent feature of the upper body.


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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2018, 06:08:02 AM »
There you go. Sure the back counts for a lot but it's an exaggeration to say that judges tend to favor those with the best back. It's only one half of the body and I don't even think it's more important than the front. You are mostly looking at a bodybuilders front, any person's front. I think this thinking came from the Dorian and Coleman era. But Jay wasn't known for his back and neither was Dexter. And both Dorian and Coleman utterly dominated the competition from the back. Phil does not bury Ramy from the back. And if you've seen recent pics of Ramy that back more than holds it own. That Nick guy who lives for this stuff claims the currently improvement pictured is "Dorian-est". Maybe, but Ramy keeps improving. Phil is not.

Phil has some very strong points. Of course, he has, he been the Mr. Olympia seven times in a row now.
That back, and of course his arms, and I think his quads are perfectly proportioned with calves to match.
But he has such glaring flaws. Of course the shoulder width he is cursed with and can't do much about.
In front shots, his head looks so big. And then there's that glazed over bubble gut. He can't get his abs to come out sharp anymore.

Maybe judges do overly favor the back shots and score it higher overall. But I think that might be changing and that they are focusing more on the guts now because it's just gotten out of hand and the public is sick of it.

We can only hope.

Look how Phil's abs has glazed over. Doesn't even have a clear four pack anymore let alone a six pack.
Phil has some very strong points but he now has some very glaring and important weak points. We tolerate judges overlooking weak calves now we're supposed to ignore the most prominent feature of the upper body.



I think that Dexter had an exceptional back

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2018, 06:19:21 AM »
Oh, it gets worse.



FFS I hate Phil!!! Most punchable face in IFBB history!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2018, 12:15:38 PM »
Heath beats Ramy in the RDB and edges him slightly in the RLS. Ramy beats him in every other pose, and absolutely destroys him in a few. Ramy is at worst, top 3 in every single pose. Phil is number one in the two back poses, but barely top 5 in FLS, FDB, MM etc. plus standing on stage relaxed next to Ramy he looks terrible.

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2018, 01:51:56 AM »
”Knock the champ out” is just a excuse to give it to who they want

Can’t you see it’s rigged? Ramy is twice as muscular as phil

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #47 on: July 28, 2018, 07:06:02 AM »
You didn't notice it before? Its so blatantly obvious.
Phil's shoulders were so narrow people didnt even notice it hahahhah
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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2018, 07:20:17 PM »
Ramy doesn't get much love on this board. He has moved up in placings every year. He was better than Heath last year. It's the same old bias. When someone is small they same how ripped he is. When someone is big they always say he isn't cut or dry enough. Ramy more than matched Phil's conditioning last year and has a much better frame and structure than Phil.

Phil is getting worse. Ramy continues to improve. He will be even better this year and Phil will be a little bit worse. Whether the judging is fair remains to be seen but it's just getting so blatant right now that people aren't going to stand for it.



the pics tell the truth

Ramy uncrowned Mr O
just like Kai 2013-15

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Re: Noteworthy video of Ramy 8 weeks out
« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2018, 07:30:44 PM »
the pics tell the truth

Ramy uncrowned Mr O
just like Kai 2013-15


Pics don’t tell the truth

Being up close in person during the thong warriors pose down tell the truth