Lower lats

[funk51]

 

[mwbbuilder]

nothing....its all genetic... you cannot isolate the lower portion of your lats apart from the upper portion. Pure bro-science bullshit!!!

Everything comes down to this.

You can't get "wider" doing wider grips.

You can't isolate the lower pecs or upper pecs.

You can't change the shape or "peak" of your biceps.

You just have to do the best you can with the basic exercises and hope for the best based on your genetics.

There are a lot of otherwise smart people who are really, really dumb when the talk about training.

I think it's because we so badly want to control our destiny/life and we cling onto whatever theories that will makes us feel in control.

We humans aren't logical. We are totally emotional.

Nothing more than muscle heads going into cognitive dissonance thinking they're smart when explaining training and its effects.

[denarii]

not a put down mate but I’d concentrate on building the back as a whole and not on the lower lats, range of motion, the stretch and pausing at both ends of the movement is important on back movements. I like strict barbell rows, parallel close grip pulldowns, wg pulldowns and cable rows again emphasis on the negative and the stretch but also pausing for a brief second at the contraction.
Slow negative deadlifts on lower body days. Been trying to improve back also and these things have helped a lot

thanks. i hardly make any progress so im near my natural limit. only real option to gain frank zane type improvements is go on a diet and then run a few cycles of ripblend (sust, mast, tren), which I have not done to date. but at 39 you wonder if its worth it.

[airman23]

thanks. i hardly make any progress so im near my natural limit. only real option to gain frank zane type improvements is go on a diet and then run a few cycles of ripblend (sust, mast, tren), which I have not done to date. but at 39 you wonder if its worth it.

You are not at your natural limit.  Try dieting down.  Work on your form, feeling the muscle and squeezing the muscle. Slow down your reps, flex/contract your lats on back movements.  You will see improvements; especially if you diet down, as there will be more detail and waist will be tighter creating an illusion of a dramatic v-taper.