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Re: 2019 Olympia - What would you do to improve Olympia Week? Seriously
« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2019, 01:22:18 PM »
The camera work was horrible especially the first night. They didn't understand that for comparisons you need to go wide and stop panning. With the larger call outs this was absurd!  The viewers missed half the guys and could not see full line comparisons.  

 Also going way too close on individuals washed them out and they often missed a full body shot. On the plus side the pump room shots were old school and added to the feed. You could also see conditioning better than under the lights.  Plane black backdrops work best. I can't speak to the best type of stage lighting.

For the announcers they should limit comments during routines. If you're watching you have no idea if someone actually put together a good routine.

Quote for excellence.

FROM the last 20 years this is a problem... The panning and zooming... Missing half the competitors shots they worked a whole year to prep to show of... And hence we can't even make the comparisons

Also stupid side angle

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« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2019, 05:14:00 PM »
Bodybuilding, in its competitive vehicle, is just not very exciting.

Oiled folks in thongs flexing muscles.

When I was a competitor, and in the vortex of my obsession, I didn’t see the whole thing for what it is: a giant bore.

I’d imagine there needs to be constant “surprises” (not Dickerson belting out opera) and better and more varied events to pad the central thong battle.

As others say, strength feats/events, right on the main stage.

But I don’t know.

This thread ended at this post.

Effectively, the take home is this:  What do you do to enhance a fundamentally boring freakshow that lasts for days, well after the moment where you're entertained by the oddness?

Less of it, more varied stuff.

I think some may disagree with this, but it doesn't make sense to me that some of the real top end strength stuff that happens at these comps, happens away from the main event.  People can always watch someone go for more weight or something interesting like that - it's a sport.   That could also be a laboured point, but there's always that "will he / she get it"? thing.  At least some intrigue.  

The actual pageantry is dry as fuck.  So instead of pooling all the varied things they could do, they stick to having thonged brutes waddle out and pose for X minutes, each.  If the promoters want to grow their events, they have to accept that their product has about a five minute attention span from the average person and work on keeping that attention span going.  Bodybuilding has no chance of ever being mainstream as a spectator thing.  There is way too much of it.  Why did pumping iron get so popular?  We see fuck all of the actual competitions, with good reason.  It has no context and it isn't interesting above perhaps viewing the top 3 guys.

People have really alluded to it already.  Maybe, just maybe, bodybuilding and competitions in general is being held back by the fact that it still relies on extending out the freakshow as the centrepiece.

I saw a video of Curry warming up back stage.  1000 times more impressive than watching a man on stage pose with no real context as to how large this fella is.  Great example of what I'm talking about.

I have no specific ideas, though - I think it'll just continue to flounder as a cult thing that few people are interested in.

To be perfectly honest.  I could more easily watch a 1 hour top 5 comparison thing for all classes, including women, better than watching the extended cut length version of the open class.  The differences in the top people are really where you might have some slight intrigue.  

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Re: 2019 Olympia - What would you do to improve Olympia Week? Seriously
« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2019, 05:33:30 PM »
I have to laugh at the idea that you can make a subculture of freaks and their yearly freak show more acceptable to a mainstream audience.

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« Reply #53 on: September 21, 2019, 08:25:46 PM »
I have to laugh at the idea that you can make a subculture of freaks and their yearly freak show more acceptable to a mainstream audience.


I've laid out the strategy.

Move the freaks to the side, do more mainstream stuff :)

Perhaps the olympia can one day be about the more thrilling subculture of extreme quilting

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« Reply #54 on: September 22, 2019, 12:33:19 PM »
The one thing you all gotta realize ..... Beside the fact that some of us claim that bodybuilding is dieing, and that the competitors appear to be on doughnut diets, and that contests are boreing, and that the Expo seems to be diminishing in size and popuarity and etc., etc. ......

That one thing that you gotta realize is that a small group is making a
hell of a lot of money.... while others involved are working for peanuts.

And there ain't no elephant in this room!

Change or no change ... It's gonna continue!

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« Reply #55 on: September 22, 2019, 02:45:35 PM »
The one thing you all gotta realize ..... Beside the fact that some of us claim that bodybuilding is dieing, and that the competitors appear to be on doughnut diets, and that contests are boreing, and that the Expo seems to be diminishing in size and popuarity and etc., etc. ......

That one thing that you gotta realize is that a small group is making a
hell of a lot of money.... while others involved are working for peanuts.

And there ain't no elephant in this room!

Change or no change ... It's gonna continue!

Contest bodybuilding as an event with mass appeal has long been dead. Fitness is where all the money is. The open Olympia contenders are an abortion of nature. Yeah- you can make money on a freak show, but to a dwindling audience.

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« Reply #56 on: September 22, 2019, 03:04:57 PM »
Contest bodybuilding as an event with mass appeal has long been dead. Fitness is where all the money is. The open Olympia contenders are an abortion of nature. Yeah- you can make money on a freak show, but to a dwindling audience.
That's the biggest danger to bodybuilding, a dwindling audience.  There is very little "new blood" coming into the sport as far as fan interest.  Magazines used to be on news stands everywhere and those days are dead.  People don't even know bodybuilding exists unless they stumble upon it by accident.

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« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2019, 08:45:01 PM »
That's the biggest danger to bodybuilding, a dwindling audience.  There is very little "new blood" coming into the sport as far as fan interest.  Magazines used to be on news stands everywhere and those days are dead.  People don't even know bodybuilding exists unless they stumble upon it by accident.

For the contest at the arena, the production this year was good. They just need a better lineup for next year.

For the Olympia Expo, bring in a more mainstream audience too?  Make it more interactive?  They brought the Bodybuilding Legends (at least some of them) to the expo.  Various celebrities too.   What about others, like players from the hockey team, or cheerleaders from various teams, or more Instagram personalities.  Not for the old school crowd, but perhaps bring in younger new crowd?
 

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« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2019, 02:21:27 AM »
For the contest at the arena, the production this year was good. They just need a better lineup for next year.

For the Olympia Expo, bring in a more mainstream audience too?  Make it more interactive?  They brought the Bodybuilding Legends (at least some of them) to the expo.  Various celebrities too.   What about others, like players from the hockey team, or cheerleaders from various teams, or more Instagram personalities.  Not for the old school crowd, but perhaps bring in younger new crowd?
  

I still think they need a t.v. contract and a better marketing plan.  Tonight on NBC Sports we have Glory Road (endurance racing), Mecum Auto Auctions, Caffeine & Octane (fastest man on 2 wheels).  The other day they had the World Pulling Championships which was goofy looking cars pulling a load behind them.  On the weekends we have World's Strongest Man contest classics from the 80's but we have no modern bodybuilding contests anywhere.

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« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2019, 08:17:39 AM »
I still think they need a t.v. contract and a better marketing plan.  Tonight on NBC Sports we have Glory Road (endurance racing), Mecum Auto Auctions, Caffeine & Octane (fastest man on 2 wheels).  The other day they had the World Pulling Championships which was goofy looking cars pulling a load behind them.  On the weekends we have World's Strongest Man contest classics from the 80's but we have no modern bodybuilding contests anywhere.

its because there is no market for it, also the drug stigma wont go away..

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« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2019, 08:26:58 AM »
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« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2019, 08:55:14 AM »
its because there is no market for it, also the drug stigma wont go away..

There's no market for curling, water polo or beach volleyball either but they're on t.v.  As I've stated before the drug thing shouldn't be an issue anymore because of all the glorified drug use on channels like Viceland.

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« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2019, 10:43:05 AM »
There's no market for curling, water polo or beach volleyball either but their on t.v.  As I've stated before the drug thing shouldn't be an issue anymore because of all the glorified drug use on channels like Viceland.

of course there is...

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« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2019, 05:50:22 PM »
A getbig booth would be quite an addition to the Olympia Weekend.

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« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2019, 07:21:56 PM »
A getbig booth would be quite an addition to the Olympia Weekend.

And who would be in there? Or what would be in there?  How would you make it interesting to the 'mainstream' or 'bodybuilders hardcore'


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Re: 2019 Olympia - What would you do to improve Olympia Week? Seriously
« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2019, 07:40:46 PM »
Gay it up !

put the announcer in sparkly clothing and the "competitors" in tiny shiny thongs!  oh wait....

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« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2019, 07:41:24 PM »
And who would be in there? Or what would be in there?  How would you make it interesting to the 'mainstream' or 'bodybuilders hardcore'



We could vote here and the 10 with the most votes would be there. If I were picking it would be Goodrum, Coach, SF1900, ESF, Strawman, Wes, Martin Champion, Pellius, Wiggs & Basile.  Could divvy the time slots and have everyone take 1 or 2 hour shifts.  Fuck the mainstream.  This crew would revolutionize fitness expo's forever more.