Author Topic: first user of peds.. (Read 3444 times)

funk51 · « **on:** October 13, 2018, 12:25:44 PM »

pud galvin baseball player.....old pud was not a dud , he made baseball's hall of fame...

Kwon · « **Reply #1 on:** October 13, 2018, 12:32:35 PM »

Was he short?

Why was he called Pud? Pudpucker Proxy?

funk51 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 13, 2018, 12:37:13 PM »

Quote from: Kwon on October 13, 2018, 12:32:35 PM

Was he short?

Why was he called Pud? Pudpucker Proxy?

5 ft 8 inches tall 190 lbs. above average height for the times.

OlympiaGym · « **Reply #3 on:** October 13, 2018, 01:00:02 PM »

Was he kept on a strict pitch count?

Kwon · « **Reply #4 on:** October 13, 2018, 01:00:50 PM »

Quote from: funk51 on October 13, 2018, 12:37:13 PM

5 ft 8 inches tall 190 lbs. above average height for the times.

Any idea why he was called Pud?

Did he pull his pud a lot?

funk51 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 13, 2018, 01:05:42 PM »

Quote from: Kwon on October 13, 2018, 01:00:50 PM

Any idea why he was called Pud?

Did he pull his pud a lot?

he was called pud because he made opposing hitters look like pudding... sort of like the expression of having legs like jello.

IroNat · « **Reply #6 on:** October 13, 2018, 01:10:22 PM »

These guys are forgotten but they were awesome.

The game has been played for a LONG time.

Irongrip400 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 13, 2018, 02:13:07 PM »

Quote from: OlympiaGym on October 13, 2018, 01:00:02 PM

Was he kept on a strict pitch count?

676 games and 649 complete games, I'd say most likely he was.

Coffeed · « **Reply #8 on:** October 13, 2018, 02:26:41 PM »

Would have never finished an entire game, let alone a season, if the league wasn't segregated.

Parker · « **Reply #9 on:** October 13, 2018, 04:00:15 PM »

Quote from: Coffeed on October 13, 2018, 02:26:41 PM

Would have never finished an entire game, let alone a season, if the league wasn't segregated.

This.

Wiggs · « **Reply #10 on:** October 13, 2018, 04:12:28 PM »

Quote from: Coffeed on October 13, 2018, 02:26:41 PM

Would have never finished an entire game, let alone a season, if the league wasn't segregated.

Lolol...true

El Diablo Blanco · « **Reply #11 on:** October 13, 2018, 09:16:17 PM »

Baseball back then were a bunch of guys who worked labor during the day then baseball at night. Most of the players were dead tired from work or drunk as fuck.

Coffeed · « **Reply #12 on:** October 14, 2018, 12:50:17 AM »

Quote from: El Diablo Blanco on October 13, 2018, 09:16:17 PM

Baseball back then were a bunch of guys who worked labor during the day then baseball at night. Most of the players were dead tired from work or drunk as fuck.

When did players start making "high salary" careers out of MLB anyways?

dr.chimps · « **Reply #13 on:** October 14, 2018, 01:16:16 AM »

Guy is in the HOF, and you're making fun of him!?

Humble Narcissist · « **Reply #14 on:** October 14, 2018, 04:48:49 AM »

Quote from: El Diablo Blanco on October 13, 2018, 09:16:17 PM

Baseball back then were a bunch of guys who worked labor during the day then baseball at night. Most of the players were dead tired from work or drunk as fuck.

Like local softball leagues today.

El Diablo Blanco · « **Reply #15 on:** October 14, 2018, 06:53:13 AM »

Quote from: Coffeed on October 14, 2018, 12:50:17 AM

When did players start making "high salary" careers out of MLB anyways?

TV money was the key. People for decades listen to baseball on the radio as the only way. One of the most famous shot calls by Ruth was legendary from radio. Wes used to follow baseball games from telegraph machines.

io · « **Reply #16 on:** October 14, 2018, 07:12:34 AM »

Quote from: Coffeed on October 14, 2018, 12:50:17 AM

When did players start making "high salary" careers out of MLB anyways?

Pro ball players have always been paid very well (even back in the 1860s, mineworkers and farmhands could make 10x their salary by signing to a good team.) But their salaries jumped astronomically a few times:

King Kelly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Kelly) — Signed for a record $10,000 in 1886. Media went bananas at that number. He also invented the autograph.
Babe Ruth — Sold for $100,000 in 1919. Probably the most famous athlete in history, earned more in endorsements than salary.
Free agency, 1976 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seitz_decision) — Players could now negotiate a salary between teams, letting them get closer to earning the actual value they bring their clubs. Salaries jumped 10x in the following 20 years.

IroNat · « **Reply #17 on:** October 14, 2018, 07:25:03 AM »

Quote from: Coffeed on October 13, 2018, 02:26:41 PM

Would have never finished an entire game, let alone a season, if the league wasn't segregated.

BS.

Greatness is greatness.

There have been lots of great white players since integration.

Kwon · « **Reply #18 on:** October 14, 2018, 11:15:39 AM »

Quote from: funk51 on October 13, 2018, 01:05:42 PM

he was called pud because he made opposing hitters look like pudding... sort of like the expression of having legs like jello.

Thanks!

IroNat · « **Reply #19 on:** October 14, 2018, 12:49:33 PM »

Quote from: Coffeed on October 14, 2018, 12:50:17 AM

When did players start making "high salary" careers out of MLB anyways?

Not till the reserve clause was eliminated. The reserve clause bound a player to a team for life.

Later 1970s. Reggie Jackson and other Oakland A's were some of the first to jump ship for big money but even what he got is paltry compared to today.

The NFL was even later. Salaries didn't take off until early 1980s. Joe Ferguson (Bills) was the highest paid QB in 1983 and made $440,000 which is like $1.1 million today. Not chump change but not $25 million like today.