carbing up in the morning didnt work

[Kwon3]

It has recently been discovered that bread was being eaten during the Paleolithic era.  I wonder if the Paleo morons will now incorporate bread in their fake as Jesus diet.

they'd probably claim that bread was somehow better for you or had a lower GI index in those days than in the age of factory-produced wheat products
i swear, there's a few categories of incorrigibly idiot fuckstains that refuse to budge from their circular dogma
generally vegans, paleos, users of Apple electronics, and religous people

so basically 75% of the planet

[falco]

I believe one should match their dietary needs to their own physiology. If i go low on carbs, i feel weak and look flat.

[Griffith]

I like how people on the paleo diet make the case for it, as if nothing's changed since we lived in caves
we also have toilet paper instead of wet leaves to wipe our asses with now
but yeah, diets from millions of years ago are the way to go

And humans have also changed in the past 50 000 years or so.

[Go 4 It]

I believe one should match their dietary needs to their own physiology. If i go low on carbs, i feel weak and look flat.

You need sodium, lot's of it. These guys didn't look flat did they? They ate tons of eggs, cottage cheese (which is loaded with sodium) beef, steak. Sodium is absolutely essential with keto or zero carb, hell even high carb.

[dan18]

tried to load up and was twice as sluggish after i ate everything, i was planning for a brief morning workout that didnt happen

im going to only eat beans for breakfast yes it sucks but im atleast 75% sure ill get the mornin workout

Eat white rice

[Kwon3]

And humans have also changed in the past 50 000 years or so.

Enough so that grains and complex carbs aren't the problem, it's people living in cubicles, car seats, and couches and never exercising. The Roman empire lived on cereals and grains yet there isn't a statue of a fat Roman anywhere.

[MP]

Tons of info out there regarding fiber and vitamins/minerals in regards to this diet, beef specifically is absolutely loaded with tons of vitamins and minerals, it's literally the only food that a human can not only survive on but thrive on. Like I said theres people out there that have done this diet for 20 plus years, cured all kinds of ailments like autoimmune diseases, IBS, all kinds of issues. I'm just doing this as an expiriment. One thing I will say is I've had zero bloat, zero gas, my bowel movements are reagular and solid every single time, zero gut distress and again with zero fiber/zero carb. If you are interested in further info on this you need to look into this diet more and you'll find all these answers. Our ancestors were hunter gatherers and you can be sure as hell all they were eating was meat and ocassionally berries depending on the climate/season. They werent eating oats or brocoli or take physlium husk or fiberlyze. And I'm not doing this for fat loss at all, it's just happening effortlessly, yesterday I ate almost 4 pounds of beef and I woke up this morning leaner lol, it's really weird I'm trying to test my threshhold of how much I can eat and begin to get fat. Again I was initially going to do this for a month but since I'm enjoying this diet and the simplicity of it I'm going to go for 60 days.

You have to ask yourself, if it's good enough for 60 days, why not do it all of the time? If it's really the ideal diet, why not do it all of the time?

There's no doubt that low carb (or in your case zero carb), helps a person get leaner. As bodybuilders, we all pretty much learned this fact a long time ago. Leanest I ever got was following an Atkins style diet.

Anyone who needs to lose some weight can benefit from it. Of course, there's the inevitable yo-yo back up to where they were before, once they go back to how they ate before. Or even worse, if they binge eat after all the deprivation of carbs, they put on more weight.

Once at or near your ideal weight, I think it's best to find a diet that helps you stay around that weight (takes some time to figure out, as everybody is different).

Bottom line, eating just meat/animal protein will eventually catch up to you in a number of ways:
1. No fiber = disaster waiting to happen
2. No carbs = eventually, you will go nuts
3. No vitamins/enzymes from live food = just plain bad

Again, don't get me wrong, it will help you lean out, but it's no way to eat forever.

So is your goal to get even leaner, or just see how far you can go on it because you feel good (for now)?

[Go 4 It]

You have to ask yourself, if it's good enough for 60 days, why not do it all of the time? If it's really the ideal diet, why not do it all of the time?

There's no doubt that low carb (or in your case zero carb), helps a person get leaner. As bodybuilders, we all pretty much learned this fact a long time ago. Leanest I ever got was following an Atkins style diet.

Anyone who needs to lose some weight can benefit from it. Of course, there's the inevitable yo-yo back up to where they were before, once they go back to how they ate before. Or even worse, if they binge eat after all the deprivation of carbs, they put on more weight.

Once at or near your ideal weight, I think it's best to find a diet that helps you stay around that weight (takes some time to figure out, as everybody is different).

Bottom line, eating just meat/animal protein will eventually catch up to you in a number of ways:
1. No fiber = disaster waiting to happen
2. No carbs = eventually, you will go nuts
3. No vitamins/enzymes from live food = just plain bad

Again, don't get me wrong, it will help you lean out, but it's no way to eat forever.

So is your goal to get even leaner, or just see how far you can go on it because you feel good (for now)?

I'll see how it goes after 60 days, and all those things you listed have been debunked/explained through numerous studies regarding this diet, just have to do the research. 

[Kwon3]

I'll see how it goes after 60 days, and all those things you listed have been debunked/explained through numerous studies regarding this diet, just have to do the research. 

Apparently no one on this board ever heard of metamucil.

[MP]

All meat and Metamucil diet. Sounds fun.  

With regard to research ... ever heard of The China Study? There's an entire book on how too much animal protein can effect your health, including the growth of cancer cells.

Seriously, if you can go 60 days zero carbs, I'm very curious how that turns out. You'll definitely be ripped AF. Do some before & after pics. Good luck.

[Griffith]

Enough so that grains and complex carbs aren't the problem, it's people living in cubicles, car seats, and couches and never exercising. The Roman empire lived on cereals and grains yet there isn't a statue of a fat Roman anywhere.

Exactly.

[falco]

You need sodium, lot's of it. These guys didn't look flat did they? They ate tons of eggs, cottage cheese (which is loaded with sodium) beef, steak. Sodium is absolutely essential with keto or zero carb, hell even high carb.

They were loaded on dianabol. Hard to get flat on that. High carbs, moderate protein and near zero fats is what makes get leanner and bigger. I am naturally lean, the only weigh i put on is muscle. Regardless of diet.

[Marty Champions]

All meat and Metamucil diet. Sounds fun.  

With regard to research ... ever heard of The China Study? There's an entire book on how too much animal protein can effect your health, including the growth of cancer cells.

Seriously, if you can go 60 days zero carbs, I'm very curious how that turns out. You'll definitely be ripped AF. Do some before & after pics. Good luck.

yes pics

this diet will age the fuck outta you grey hair grey teeth skin getting old , intestinal issues

[Go 4 It]

They were loaded on dianabol. Hard to get flat on that. High carbs, moderate protein and near zero fats is what makes get leanner and bigger. I am naturally lean, the only weigh i put on is muscle. Regardless of diet.

They ate tons of fat and used drugs that make you bloated yet had tiny waists and lean faces, compared to guys to day who eat no fat take cutting drugs and have distended stomachs and fat faces.

[Marty Champions]

how are u not fucking constipated? that is a horrible feeling brah

[Griffith]

yes pics

this diet will age the fuck outta you grey hair grey teeth skin getting old , intestinal issues

Meat is also harder for the body to digest.

[Marty Champions]

Meat is also harder for the body to digest.

eskimoes have highest rate of osteoperosis they eat keto and the bone too

[Go 4 It]

eskimoes have highest rate of osteoperosis they eat keto and the bone too

Yet this carnivore diet is curing people with severe arthritis and people who've had joint replacements, not to mention eskimos weren't eating beef, beef is the key.

[Go 4 It]

how are u not fucking constipated? that is a horrible feeling brah

I've literally had zero bloat, gas, constipation, indigestion..nothing, my bowel movements are solid every single day. I like experimenting with different diets and yes I've tried a vegan diet for 3 months, I had more bowel irregularities gas, bloat, then ever on that diet.

[falco]

They ate tons of fat and used drugs that make you bloated yet had tiny waists and lean faces, compared to guys to day who eat no fat take cutting drugs and have distended stomachs and fat faces.

Modern bodybuilding goes hand in hand with insulin and growth hormone. Hence the laughable guts.

[MP]

Following up ... Go 4 It, are you still on this diet? Results?

[funk51]

this and 4 eggs.