Only sf1900 makes a mindless debate between machines and free weights

[Bevo]

Absolutely. You can maintain everything you have gained. Question is whether by using machines, you can attain the best level of definition to your muscles, assuming you get down to very lean levels of body fat. I only find that free weights, particular dumbbell work for chest, allows me to get a lower squeeze to the pecs that brings out the pecs more, as compared to machines.

Then again, today, I see a lot of machines with great design and interesting range of motion that lends itself well to isolating muscles.

They should make a study on this.

"1"

That’s all broscience

All you need is 4 plates on the hammer strength press to develop big chest like dexter or Phil

[SF1900]

That’s all broscience

All you need is 4 plates on the hammer strength press to develop big chest like dexter or Phil

With the right genetics and drugs, that is correct.

[AbrahamG]

That’s all broscience

All you need is 4 plates on the hammer strength press to develop big chest like dexter or Phil

3 plates will get you Dexter or Phil.
4 gets you Big Ramy.

[SF1900]

3 plates will get you Dexter or Phil.
4 gets you Big Ramy.

This is how Phil got big.

[AbrahamG]

This is how Phil got big.

I think it's the continual tension principle.  Notice how he is careful to not lock out.

[Dave D]

This is how Phil got big.

His plates dont match.... shouldn't this create a muscle imbalance between his pecs?

The elite have genetical advantages I guess. :/

[AbrahamG]

They are just two different ways of hitting the muscle, ahhh now u can sip your tea of grass clips and suck down some benzonite clay now that u know the truth 'slowfool1900'

[JustPlaneJane]

They are just two different ways of hitting the muscle, ahhh now u can sip your tea of grass clips and suck down some benzonite clay now that u know the truth 'slowfool1900'

Please give the account back to Falcon.

[Primemuscle]

Short term, for isolating muscles and getting the best definition and strength gains = free weights.

Long term, to preserve your tendons + ligaments + joints, not tear any muscles, fracture any bones and keep a respectable build that 99% of the population will appreciate = machines.

"1"

My personal experience suggests you couldn't be more correct. A late gym buddy of mine torn up his shoulders over and over, always when using free weights, too much weight and bad (jerky) form.