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Millennials losing their grip
« on: April 14, 2019, 01:42:38 PM »
In 1985, men ages 20-24 had an average right-handed grip of 121 pounds and left-handed grip of 105 pounds. Today, men that age had grips of only 101 and 99 pounds, the study found. Men 25-29 posted losses of 26 and 19 pounds.


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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2019, 01:44:21 PM »
In 1985, men ages 20-24 had an average right-handed grip of 121 pounds and left-handed grip of 105 pounds. Today, men that age had grips of only 101 and 99 pounds, the study found. Men 25-29 posted losses of 26 and 19 pounds.



Even stranger when you think WAY more men in that age group now lift weights.

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2019, 01:46:37 PM »
maybe their hands get overtrained because of all jerking off and texting

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2019, 01:56:01 PM »
It’s no secret that the current generation are weak soft little fags who can barely do fuck all for themselves

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2019, 01:59:08 PM »
Very bad especially if taking into account all the fat calorically empowered women these man have to hold onto when making loves.
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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2019, 02:23:21 PM »
probably because there is so much less manual labour today. Most manufacturing is automated or made in China.

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2019, 02:28:09 PM »
They lost their grip on reality a long time ago.

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2019, 03:08:23 PM »
Your grip can't develop serving coffee at Starbucks or tapping a keyboard at Googly.

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2019, 03:35:56 PM »
more posers in the gym.... talk, snap, stare at phone, sit on equipment in trans.... don't look at the nice pussy walking around.... whole new world out there...  ;D

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2019, 03:49:00 PM »
Bullshit.  Men were complete fruitcakes in the 1980s.  You were supposed to be a suit wearing cocaine addict who never did anything physical.  At least today there's a counterculture of masculinity calling bullshit on media representations of how we're supposed to be.

And if we're going to me manly about this then lets be data oriented.  What do those numbers mean?  They can hold that much weight in their hand with a bar of a given diameter?  A plate pinch?  Are they imparting 100 psi squish on something?  What does 'a grip of 121 pounds' mean?  Who undertook this study and why?  How were the subjects selected?

I remember the 80s.  It was not exactly a time of giants.

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2019, 03:51:33 PM »
They lost their grip on reality a long time ago.

FTW.  ;D ;D

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2019, 04:14:21 PM »
Even stranger when you think WAY more men in that age group now lift weights.

Which started around the late 90's and early 2000's, and has exploded since......which makes it even stranger since average height and weight of males AND females increased from 1960-2002.  https://www.livescience.com/49-decade-study-americans-taller-fatter.html

I bet both of those stats for both groups have increased, and bmi has gone down a little in the last 17 years.  People are creating taller and bigger limp-wristed wussies.

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2019, 04:32:00 PM »
Most guys in gyms today are posers. They take too long in between sets. They sit in machines looking around. They all do partial reps in everything they do and brag about the poundage they use. Most neglect cardio and couldn't run around a block or grapple for more than a minute without gassing. They just aren't men. 

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2019, 05:04:56 PM »
Most guys in gyms today are posers. They take too long in between sets. They sit in machines looking around. They all do partial reps in everything they do and brag about the poundage they use. Most neglect cardio and couldn't run around a block or grapple for more than a minute without gassing. They just aren't men. 
The partial reps drive me nuts. I can't bear to watch that shit.
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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2019, 06:08:11 PM »
Nowadays, nobody even mows their own lawn.

The Mexicans who do their yardwork have iron grips but they're not included in the survey.

They test grip with a dynamometer...


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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2019, 06:11:59 PM »
The partial reps drive me nuts. I can't bear to watch that shit.

This is going to be a bit of a rant. I've been lifting for over 40 years. I have never seen the explosion of guys going all out to make a lift easy.  Guys are deadlifting with the bar raised in a power rack. If it was on the floor they couldn't budge it. Guys are doing shoulder presses and stopping when their upper arm is parallel to the ground so they can handle a man's weight. Worst are the guys who sit and slide their ass out to make it an incline press. I see this old man who sits in a shoulder press machine. He lowers he seat as low as it can go so the lifting handles are high. He put the pin in the bottom of the plates and does his partial reps then struts like a peacock thinking he lifts more than the young buck who was in the machine before him.  Just about everyone puts a million plates on the leg press with the back board high. They are barely bending their legs. Some delusional guys might say my thighs hit my chest. Lower the back board then and then you will be able to bend your legs. Not saying I'm strong but just last friday I was cleaning 135lbs barbell to do my military presses. I did these from the clavicles to full over head. I look across the gym and a guy is sitting in the smith machine with 155lbs on it doing military presses. Every rep the bar was stopped at the top of his head and  it looked more like a partial incline press the way is ass was slid out from the seat. Even a simple bench press is being corrupted with partial reps. Pulldowns is another. It's a heave and a lean back. It looks more like a row than a pulldown. Seen guys that can't do pullups but can use more than their body weight in pulldowns doing their shenanigans. Bodybuilding is full of insecure guys that prop up their egos thinking they are strong when they are not. If in doubt do an exercise in the most challenging way instead of the easiest way. You're training your muscle not your ego.  

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2019, 06:58:00 PM »
This is going to be a bit of a rant. I've been lifting for over 40 years. I have never seen the explosion of guys going all out to make a lift easy.  Guys are deadlifting with the bar raised in a power rack. If it was on the floor they couldn't budge it. Guys are doing shoulder presses and stopping when their upper arm is parallel to the ground so they can handle a man's weight. Worst are the guys who sit and slide their ass out to make it an incline press. I see this old man who sits in a shoulder press machine. He lowers he seat as low as it can go so the lifting handles are high. He put the pin in the bottom of the plates and does his partial reps then struts like a peacock thinking he lifts more than the young buck who was in the machine before him.  Just about everyone puts a million plates on the leg press with the back board high. They are barely bending their legs. Some delusional guys might say my thighs hit my chest. Lower the back board then and then you will be able to bend your legs. Not saying I'm strong but just last friday I was cleaning 135lbs barbell to do my military presses. I did these from the clavicles to full over head. I look across the gym and a guy is sitting in the smith machine with 155lbs on it doing military presses. Every rep the bar was stopped at the top of his head and  it looked more like a partial incline press the way is ass was slid out from the seat. Even a simple bench press is being corrupted with partial reps. Pulldowns is another. It's a heave and a lean back. It looks more like a row than a pulldown. Seen guys that can't do pullups but can use more than their body weight in pulldowns doing their shenanigans. Bodybuilding is full of insecure guys that prop up their egos thinking they are strong when they are not. If in doubt do an exercise in the most challenging way instead of the easiest way. You're training your muscle not your ego.  
Yep. Last 2 guys that have asked me for advice, the first thing I said was do full reps, both of them had excuses why they had heard full reps were bad for you. They want to make lifting easy as possible, not putting in any work.

Do you clean every rep for your military press?
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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2019, 07:11:45 PM »
Yep. Last 2 guys that have asked me for advice, the first thing I said was do full reps, both of them had excuses why they had heard full reps were bad for you. They want to make lifting easy as possible, not putting in any work.

Do you clean every rep for your military press?

Usually no. Depends if I'm using it for a conditioning exercise. So the answer is sometimes.

The biggest excuse I've heard for partial reps is that it's the proper way to do the exercise so you won't get injured. Keep doing partials then the day the weights get heavy through exhaustion and your forced to exceed that partial range you set up your inflexible muscles for a tear.

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2019, 07:45:11 PM »
This is going to be a bit of a rant. I've been lifting for over 40 years. I have never seen the explosion of guys going all out to make a lift easy.  Guys are deadlifting with the bar raised in a power rack. If it was on the floor they couldn't budge it. Guys are doing shoulder presses and stopping when their upper arm is parallel to the ground so they can handle a man's weight. Worst are the guys who sit and slide their ass out to make it an incline press. I see this old man who sits in a shoulder press machine. He lowers he seat as low as it can go so the lifting handles are high. He put the pin in the bottom of the plates and does his partial reps then struts like a peacock thinking he lifts more than the young buck who was in the machine before him.  Just about everyone puts a million plates on the leg press with the back board high. They are barely bending their legs. Some delusional guys might say my thighs hit my chest. Lower the back board then and then you will be able to bend your legs. Not saying I'm strong but just last friday I was cleaning 135lbs barbell to do my military presses. I did these from the clavicles to full over head. I look across the gym and a guy is sitting in the smith machine with 155lbs on it doing military presses. Every rep the bar was stopped at the top of his head and  it looked more like a partial incline press the way is ass was slid out from the seat. Even a simple bench press is being corrupted with partial reps. Pulldowns is another. It's a heave and a lean back. It looks more like a row than a pulldown. Seen guys that can't do pullups but can use more than their body weight in pulldowns doing their shenanigans. Bodybuilding is full of insecure guys that prop up their egos thinking they are strong when they are not. If in doubt do an exercise in the most challenging way instead of the easiest way. You're training your muscle not your ego.  

So FOR ME, I can deadlift the same if not more from the ground than in with rack deads.....I've posted about this before.  I also do leg presses not all the way up (which is about 60 degrees on a Flex leg press, but on the second hook which is right around 45 degrees.  I do both of these this way for the same reason I do squats with heels elevated, which is to keep my ass out of the movements so I don't look like a cross between a mini-pony and a clydesdale from the rear view.

Rack deads to me, are a little harder as I don't have the glute and ham power helping me at the bottom.  I put my right hand with the base of my palm at the top of my kneecap with fingers down, and my left hand with my fingers at the top of my foot where it meets the tibia.  In between where my right hands fingers are, and the base of my left hand is where I set up the bar to go.  It's some hams at the beginning, but mostly all lower back, and then shoulders, rhomboids, traps, lats, and arms taking the load.  I guess it's all in how you do it, but I personally do them like that to make them harder and more effective not easier.

None of my weights currently would impress/outdo a 14 yr old girl, so I'm taking a major ego hit not building mine up.

The other stuff you posted about I agree is utter nonsense.   That swinging shit on pulldowns has always been a pet peeve of mine.  It's like "hey dickhead, those are for your lats...it's not supposed to be a full upper body workout" >:(  Now that pullup variations are a "thing" these days, I see the same stupid shit with that.  If you can't control your body or the weight, or rack things without making a major ruckus you have no business doing it, and need to drop down the weight until otherwise.

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Re: Millennials losing their grip
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2019, 11:52:29 PM »
It’s no secret that the current generation are weak soft little fags who can barely do fuck all for themselves

It's not just their physical grip and strength they're losing, it's their grip of reality and mental strength as well.



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