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NOT SAFE FOR WORK BUT EVEN MY MIND STARTED TO BELIEVE IT WAS A YOUNGER MICHELLE OBAMA

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2019, 02:59:42 AM »
This one will fuck with your mind


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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2019, 03:06:35 AM »
It will also be a defense that lawyers will use to get actual guilty defendants off.

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2019, 04:31:20 AM »
From 2 minutes, his story about being arnolds PA on Collateral Damage  ;D


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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2019, 04:38:49 AM »
It will also be a defense that lawyers will use to get actual guilty defendants off.

No they won't.  People who say deepfakes are realistic enough to convict innocent people will be called conspiracy theorists and dismissed.

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2019, 04:44:28 AM »
No they won't.  People who say deepfakes are realistic enough to convict innocent people will be called conspiracy theorists and dismissed.

Give it 5 years and we won't be able to spot the difference.
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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2019, 04:45:13 AM »
Give it 5 years and we won't be able to spot the difference.

This.But I think he means governments wont accept it at first because they either dont want to admit they can be duped or they want to convict innocent people, conspire to take down certain people.This wont happen though as they will be all over youtube from amateurs and it will undeniable that even 11yr Joey in his parents basement can make a convincing fakes.The real question is will they bring regulations or licenses in on technology to deal with it.Interesting times ahead for sure.

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2019, 06:34:14 AM »
Give it 5 years and we won't be able to spot the difference.
Deepfake requires hundreds to thousands of photographs of a person from various angles. And once the head is replaced the body might not be identical. If you look at the Deepfake porn videos of celebrity females you'll see that the porn star performing has a different body compared to the celebrity. Different boob sizes, shoulder width, weight, hip width, hairstyle etc. Deepfake is not going to fix that.

But it is getting better I agree. And if someone was to be framed for a crime the framers could use a person with a very similar body shape, height weight etc. If they have limited photos of the person they wish to frame they could shoot a fictional or real murder with minimal head movements or facial expressions on the part of the criminal. Then Deepfake could be used to superimpose another person's head and thus try to frame someone else. Of course this person might have an alibi so it will not be that easy to frame someone.

Also if Deepfakes become so good that people can't tell the difference then video evidence will become useless in crime prosecution. Same goes for audio if they manage to replicate any persons voice like they do in the Mission Impossible movies.

In the future there will have to be a watermark or code embedded in videos and photos to indicate they have not been tampered with. Photos taken with your cellphone already has metadata included (GPS coordinates etc.). If you save the photo as a JPEG in Photoshop you have the option to strip the metadata - your probably already know about this. I always strip metadata from my photos so people can't track down where my photos were taken.

It will be interesting to see what they come up with.

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2019, 06:38:35 AM »
Cyber security companies race to combat ‘deepfake’ technology

Concern grows that criminals could use false video and audio to target businesses

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When a chief executive called a finance employee to demand they make an urgent $10m wire transfer to a supplier, that staffer promptly carried out the task, even though it went against the company’s protocols. After all, it was the boss on the phone. But was it?

So far this year, as many as three companies have been victim to fraudsters using manipulated media — or “deepfake” technology — to try to con them into making funds transfers, according to cyber security group Symantec.

In one case, $10m was wired to criminals who used artificial intelligence to impersonate an executive down the phone.

Deepfaking, in which content is doctored to give uncannily realistic but false renderings of people, has increasingly caught online attention with the emergence of a number of viral videos.

Typically the technique can involve a “face swap” — replacing one person’s face with that of another — or “lip syncing”, in which a subject’s mouth is seen to move along with an audio track that has been laid over it. Audio too can be faked by training AI programs to mimic existing recordings of a person.

Much of the debate around the potential power of the nascent technology has focused on whether it can be used as a means for spreading political disinformation. But as the techniques, which are developed via complex machine learning, have become cheaper and more readily available online, there is evidence that they are starting to be adopted by fraudsters in commercial settings.

And as a result, several cyber security companies are racing to find ways to thwart potential attacks. “Not only are deepfakes evolving rapidly and improving their level of realism, but also the barrier to entry to create and distribute deepfakes is getting lower,” said Michael Farrell, executive director of the Institute for Information Security and Privacy at Georgia Tech. “There is a significant opportunity for cyber security companies to play in this space when it comes to fraud prevention,” he added.
‘Everybody has to have a plan’

California-based Symantec said last month that it had recorded three instances of deepfaked audio attacks on corporations in 2019. Other potential attacks could include market manipulation — for example creating a video of a chief executive announcing a fake merger or false earnings in order to shift the share price — or brand sabotage. While there are no confirmed reports of these latter attacks to date, cyber security experts say companies should be on high alert.

“Deepfakes . . . will allow cyber criminals to up their game in terms of social engineering,” said John Farley, who heads up the cyber practice of global insurance brokerage Gallagher. “There’s a whole host of nightmare scenarios.”

“Everybody has to have a plan for what’s going to happen in the age of deepfakes,” said Darren Shou, vice-president of research labs at Symantec.

    The biggest concern is reputation damage. We are going to see some interesting scams coming out
    Matthew Price, ZeroFOX

“Every single bank that I’ve talked to recently, we’ve had [a] discussion [about this], and quite a few non-financial sectors are having it too,” he added, citing board-level conversations with healthcare and retail firms.

Given the increasingly complex nature of deepfake technologies, security companies and academics are exploring a wide range of techniques to combat them.

Some are using AI to detect discrepancies in fake media based on an understanding of how deepfakes are created. Tell-tale signs for videos, for instance, can include changes in pixels around a subject’s mouth, or inconsistencies in the generation of shadows or the angles of a person’s face.

But this technology is still very new and developers face hurdles. “Some detection methods are really accurate but right now there’s not enough data out there to build a data set for the detection model,” said Matthew Price, principal research engineer at Baltimore-based ZeroFOX, which last week launched its own video analysis tool for detecting deepfakes.

Mr Shou of Symantec said his company was researching ways of mapping the “provenance” of video and audio media — whether it came from reputable websites originally and how it had since travelled online — as a sign of whether it might be fake.

The company is also exploring the possibility of whether 3D-printed glasses that can be used to evade facial recognition — by tricking the software into misclassifying the wearer — could also be repurposed to help chief executives prevent deepfakes being made of them.
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Meanwhile start-ups such as ProofMode and Truepic offer technology that stamps photos with a watermark to prove that they can always be trusted. The latter is partnering with major chipmaker Qualcomm to potentially include these capabilities in mobile phone hardware.

Rumman Chowdhury, who leads “responsible AI” consulting at Accenture, said another option was to look at preventive measures, such as requiring those who publish code for creating deepfakes to build in verification measures.
Hype and reality

Still, some remain sceptical about the dangers of deepfakes, saying that the technology is in its infancy and that the risks — particularly to businesses — are in danger of being prematurely hyped.

“Theoretically, it’s a threat,” said Camille François, chief innovation officer at Graphika, where she leads social media threat investigations. “[But] people need to be confronted with the clunkiness of the technology.

“CEOs are not going to be the first victims of this; women are,” she added, pointing to its use by some to add women’s faces to pornography.

Meanwhile, others warn of the limits of trying to combat the trend. Ms Chowdhury said that even the best techniques to detect deepfakes could be undermined by human nature.

“We need to be cognisant that no matter how many tools we put out there, there will always be a certain percentage of people who will not believe a verification tool,” she said. “I don’t think we should discount people’s desire to consume fake media.”

Nevertheless, cyber security companies are pushing forward with their work. “The biggest concern is reputation damage,” said Mr Price of ZeroFOX. “We are going to see some interesting scams coming out.”

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2019, 08:02:57 AM »
Bill Hader somehow morphs into Tom Cruise during his imitation.

It's not just his voice.  He actually looks like Cruise.

Amazing.

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2019, 08:05:31 AM »
Bill Hader somehow morphs into Tom Cruise during his imitation.

It's not just his voice.  He actually looks like Cruise.

Amazing.

Sarcasm?Deepfaked on his face during his Tom Cruise Impression moments

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2019, 08:08:30 AM »
Sarcasm?Deepfaked on his face during his Tom Cruise Impression moments

I didn't understand that.   :-[


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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2019, 08:10:04 AM »
I didn't understand that.   :-[



His face during his tom cruise moments has been morphed with cgi to look like cruise, when he speaks normally its switched back to haders real face.Watch the arnold one too.

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2019, 11:20:56 AM »
This stuff is wild.

Barack probably jerks off to Deepfake Michelle.

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2019, 11:33:19 AM »
Bill Hader somehow morphs into Tom Cruise during his imitation.

It's not just his voice.  He actually looks like Cruise.

Amazing.

Yes, takes quite the skill to be able to change your appearance like that, not just the voice but also the face.

Now, if Hader could also change his body to look like Tom Cruise , Arnold, etc then he'd go places.
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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2019, 11:37:52 AM »
Yes, takes quite the skill to be able to change your appearance like that, not just the voice but also the face.

Now, if Hader could also change his body to look like Tom Cruise , Arnold, etc then he'd go places.

Seriously, I thought he was really doing it.

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2019, 12:33:57 PM »
Seriously, I thought he was really doing it.

 :o

That would be quite the skillset! :D


Today i will look like Epstein!

Today i will look like Trump!

Today i will look like Barney Rubble etc

Imagine being able to do that!
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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2019, 12:46:30 PM »
That would be quite the skillset! :D


Today i will look like Epstein!

Today i will look like Trump!

Today i will look like Barney Rubble etc

Imagine being able to do that!

Did you catch that he also morphed in to seth rogan in the tom cruise clip?

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2019, 03:21:55 PM »
Did you catch that he also morphed in to seth rogan in the tom cruise clip?

I watched it but it wasn't quite as evident facially so it didn't hit me like the Cruise face.

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2019, 03:22:57 PM »
That would be quite the skillset! :D


Today i will look like Epstein!

Today i will look like Trump!

Today i will look like Barney Rubble etc

Imagine being able to do that!

I thought "This guy is amazing!" :o

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2019, 06:35:57 PM »
No they won't.  People who say deepfakes are realistic enough to convict innocent people will be called conspiracy theorists and dismissed.
You have to only convince the people on the jury and only 1 person to get a hung jury.  People who serve on juries are usually people on the lower rung of society not smart enough to get out of jury duty.

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Re: Deepfake evidence so realistic that innocent people will go to prison
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2019, 07:32:42 PM »
I thought "This guy is amazing!" :o

There's an old clip of Jim Carey doing Clint Eastwood. Squint, facial ticks, everything.