Some thoughts on slow drivers..

[urj200]

The flow of traffic is never 20+ mph over the speed limit,

You obviously don't drive the 101 north of San Luis Obispo. The flow of traffic is closer to 85 or 90 there

[Hulkotron]

You obviously don't drive the 101 north of San Luis Obispo. The flow of traffic is closer to 85 or 90 there

Population 45,000 and nearly 200 miles from LA.  Wow, what a metropolis, traffic must be crazy!

[YngiweRhoads]

Exactly, Hulkotron.

The fact is, anyone driving at high speeds, is not only putting their own life in danger, but the danger of others.

Screw them if they want to go fast and put other lives in danger and they expect us to get out of the way. Absolutely ridiculous.

Talk about self-entitlement.

Spot on.

[urj200]

Population 45,000 and nearly 200 miles from LA.  Wow, what a metropolis, traffic must be crazy!

And many of the vehicles are older mini-vans running space saver spares! It's pretty nuts between there and Gilroy in terms of the speeds some of those folks drive especially considering the vehicles they're in.

OTOH, Oregon drives tend to get out of the left lane and to use it only for passing.

[Irongrip400]

You can get a ticket on the Autobahn for being in the left lane clogging it up. It’s for passing only.

[urj200]

You can get a ticket on the Autobahn for being in the left lane clogging it up. It’s for passing only.

And same on the Autostrada in Italy. Some of the left lane lovers here need to drive in Germany or Italy. Might change their attitudes.

[Primemuscle]

And same on the Autostrada in Italy. Some of the left lane lovers here need to drive in Germany or Italy. Might change their attitudes.

You've got this right. Speeds lower in Germany from where they were 25 years ago. People would max out their Mercedes' capability on the autobahn left lane.

[kreator]

If I’m speeding and you’re going  the speed limit on my lane, the left lane of course, move if you have the opportunity. You never know the cause of why I’m in the hurry. I don’t like reckless drivers but why block somebody with your vehicle just because you’re butthurt that somebody wants to pass you. What if that person’s wife’s in labour, what if that person received an emergency call from somebody close to them etc?
It’s not your business to regulate traffic, move and let them pass.

[Hulkotron]

If I’m speeding and you’re going  the speed limit on my lane, the left lane of course, move if you have the opportunity. You never know the cause of why I’m in the hurry. I don’t like reckless drivers but why block somebody with your vehicle just because you’re butthurt that somebody wants to pass you. What if that person’s wife’s in labour, what if that person received an emergency call from somebody close to them etc?
It’s not your business to regulate traffic, move and let them pass.

This is ignorant and incorrect. 

Vast amount of selfishness and ignorance of civil engineering and basic common sense in this thread by the "Hurf durf, just move out of the way, what if it's an emergency?" crowd.

Traffic laws are in place for the safety of drivers as a whole.  They are not in place to accommodate people's personal circumstances. 

Roads like the Autobahn are specifically designed to be safely traveled by cars driving at arbitrarily fast speeds.  Highways and interstates in the US are not.

If it's such a time-sensitive life-or-death emergency then call the police or an ambulance, cars are required by law to get out of their way.  Cars aren't required by law to get out of your way when you're trying to blast through traffic at fast speeds because it's unsafe for everyone.

[gmflex]

  
I'm a dick when somebody flashes their lights for me to move when there is no where to move because the cars in front of you are following the speed limit..I will brake on their assets and won't let them pass me...

  

[Agnostic007]

This is ignorant and incorrect. 

Vast amount of selfishness and ignorance of civil engineering and basic common sense in this thread by the "Hurf durf, just move out of the way, what if it's an emergency?" crowd.

Traffic laws are in place for the safety of drivers as a whole.  They are not in place to accommodate people's personal circumstances. 

Roads like the Autobahn are specifically designed to be safely traveled by cars driving at arbitrarily fast speeds.  Highways and interstates in the US are not.

If it's such a time-sensitive life-or-death emergency then call the police or an ambulance, cars are required by law to get out of their way.  Cars aren't required by law to get out of your way when you're trying to blast through traffic at fast speeds because it's unsafe for everyone.

Some studies have been done that show not moving with the flow of traffic either way, too slow or too fast is more hazardous than going with the flow. This would include traffic moving faster than the legal speed limit.

[deadz]

When I’m tailgated I just slow down 🙂.

[SF1900]

If I’m speeding and you’re going  the speed limit on my lane, the left lane of course, move if you have the opportunity. You never know the cause of why I’m in the hurry. I don’t like reckless drivers but why block somebody with your vehicle just because you’re butthurt that somebody wants to pass you. What if that person’s wife’s in labour, what if that person received an emergency call from somebody close to them etc?
It’s not your business to regulate traffic, move and let them pass.

This is obviously a huge contradiction.

If it's not my business to regulate traffic, then its not the person's business who is going at excessive speeds to regulate traffic either.

If everyone accommodates the fast driver, then he is actually also regulating traffic, as his excessive speeds are causing people to take certain actions, thus regulating traffic. Why does he get to regulate traffic and people's movements, but I cannot?

And, yes, you are correct, I do not regulate the traffic, but the State regulates traffic and they dictate a maximum amount of speed. If you're going passed that speed, then you are breaking the law and cannot expect others to accommodate you.

[Griffith]

When I’m tailgated I just slow down 🙂.

Same.

If there's nowhere to overtake and they're trying to force me to go over the speed-limit I make sure they go a lot slower.

[SF1900]

But do you hog the left lane even when right lane is free. If so you're just a douche.

If you mean "hog the left lane" by purposely going slow, of course I do not do that. However, if I am going 70-80 in a 60, and you want to go 90, then screw you. I am going fast enough for the left lane. Where else should I go? 80 is too fast for the right and middle lane, so the left lane is the only suitable option. Do you really expect me to merge back and forth between the left and middle lane, despite going 80, because some people want to go 90+ Not happening.

[YngiweRhoads]

Some studies have been done that show not moving with the flow of traffic either way, too slow or too fast is more hazardous than going with the flow. This would include traffic moving faster than the legal speed limit.

Absolutely.

Both cause interaction with other vehicles by causing bottlenecks and/or 'forcing' people to change lanes.

Driving closer than 2 seconds at a bare minimum (in a 4 wheeler in perfect conditions), either behind or ahead of another vehicle puts you at danger of being in an accident. Add more time in less than ideal conditions or for a larger vehicle. eg 7 seconds for a tractor trailer. 8 in rain etc etc

Any time you have to interact with other vehicles it puts you at risk of being in, or causing an accident.

Go the speed limit and it's all good.

I changed professions and left the office behind. Been a professional driver for the last 4 years. I'm on the road 10-14 hrs every day and haven't had a single at ticket or accident in 37 years of driving. I've also had 6 months more driver training and schooling than most other people on the road. Very, very few people drive correctly. People also tend to be at their worst when they get behind the wheel. The inner asshole comes out.

[Hulkotron]

If you mean "hog the left lane" by purposely going slow, of course I do not do that. However, if I am going 70-80 in a 60, and you want to go 90, then screw you. I am going fast enough for the left lane. Where else should I go? 80 is too fast for the right and middle lane, so the left lane is the only suitable option. Do you really expect me to merge back and forth between the left and middle lane, despite going 80, because some people want to go 90+ Not happening.

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[SF1900]

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Thank you for your continued support, Hulkotron! 

[kreator]

This is obviously a huge contradiction.

If it's not my business to regulate traffic, then its not the person's business who is going at excessive speeds to regulate traffic either.

If everyone accommodates the fast driver, then he is actually also regulating traffic, as his excessive speeds are causing people to take certain actions, thus regulating traffic. Why does he get to regulate traffic and people's movements, but I cannot?

And, yes, you are correct, I do not regulate the traffic, but the State regulates traffic and they dictate a maximum amount of speed. If you're going passed that speed, then you are breaking the law and cannot expect others to accommodate you.

If that is your point, aren’t we all regulating traffic in some way just by being on the road whether moving or not?
Phones are not allowed either, are you going to say you’ve never used it while driving thus putting everyone in danger since phones aren’t allowed while driving?
Would you safely move out of the way for the emergency vehicle? Why not for someone else? Because the law states you don’t have to or because you don’t want to? Safely of course ...

[SF1900]

If that is your point, aren’t we all regulating traffic in some way just by being on the road whether moving or not?
Phones are not allowed either, are you going to say you’ve never used it while driving thus putting everyone in danger since phones aren’t allowed while driving?
Would you safely move out of the way for the emergency vehicle? Why not for someone else? Because the law states you don’t have to or because you don’t want to? Safely of course ...

Yes, we are all regulating traffic in that regard. Thus, pointing out that its not my duty to regulate is a moot point since we are all regulating traffic in some way. It just does not apply to me.

Yes, I would safely move out of the way of an emergency vehicle because it's the law and I assume there is an emergency.

A random person can be going 90 for any reason. As such, I am not going to keep switching between the left and the middle lane for every tom, dick and harry that wants to drive at an excessive speed, as this is also dangerous. Furthermore, there are a lot less emergency vehicles compared to random people going to excessive speed limits. Are some of them going to emergencies? Sure. Are most? Likely not.

[Hulkotron]

I also must chuckle at all the yokels in this thread talking about "the left lane" vs. "the right lane" or "the fast lane" vs. "the slow lane".  If you want to see some real traffic, drive during morning rush in a major metro area with 4+ lanes, lanes suddenly ending/merging all the time, onramps and exits all over the place, construction, breakdowns, all manner of trucks and various other weird/giant vehicles, hundreds of thousands of cars all traveling the same ~ 50 miles of roads in the same hour.  Try flashing your lights and honking your horn at everyone in "your lane" who's not driving as fast as you want and see where it gets you.

[deadz]

I also must chuckle at all the yokels in this thread talking about "the left lane" vs. "the right lane" or "the fast lane" vs. "the slow lane".  If you want to see some real traffic, drive during morning rush in a major metro area with 4+ lanes, lanes suddenly ending/merging all the time, onramps and exits all over the place, construction, breakdowns, all manner of trucks and various other weird/giant vehicles, hundreds of thousands of cars all traveling the same ~ 50 miles of roads in the same hour.  Try flashing your lights and honking your horn at everyone in "your lane" who's not driving as fast as you want and see where it gets you.

In three years I’ve put 20k miles on my car, ahhhh, nice to be young and out of the Rat Race.

[2ND COMING]

The worst is when some schmuck turns in front of you going slow as fuck when theres no one behind you, and could have waited.