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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #50 on: October 20, 2019, 12:06:09 PM »
Most brutal round of all time

Hearns vs Hagler RD 1

Honorable mention: Norton vs Holmes RD 15


Just watched that Hagler vs Hearns 1st round the other day on youtube.  Brutal!

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #51 on: October 20, 2019, 09:31:29 PM »
Just watched that Hagler vs Hearns 1st round the other day on youtube.  Brutal!

I'm going to pull that up myself later tonight. I miss those days. Bunch of friends getting together and watching those true warriors back in those days: Hagler, Leonard, Duran, Hearns -- the four Kings. You really got a sense of anticipation and excitement as fight day approached. I don't really get that anymore.

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #52 on: October 21, 2019, 04:12:13 AM »
Just watched Norton vs Holmes round 15.  Another great round and fight.

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #53 on: October 21, 2019, 06:29:09 PM »
Just watched Norton vs Holmes round 15.  Another great round and fight.
Great round

Castillo vs Corrales round 10 was pretty good

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2019, 06:51:34 PM »
Great round

Castillo vs Corrales round 10 was pretty good
Brutal fucking fight !!   :o


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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #55 on: October 23, 2019, 12:51:56 AM »
RIP @ Patrick Day. 

Make sure you guys tune in Saturday night for Regis Prograis and Josh Taylor.  2 undefeated jr. welterweights in a unification match.  On paper this is one of the best fights to be made in boxing.  This fight should be getting more hype than it is.  If Prograis wins impressively, he should crack the top 10 in most p4p rankings. 

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #56 on: October 23, 2019, 12:23:30 PM »
RIP @ Patrick Day. 

Make sure you guys tune in Saturday night for Regis Prograis and Josh Taylor.  2 undefeated jr. welterweights in a unification match.  On paper this is one of the best fights to be made in boxing.  This fight should be getting more hype than it is.  If Prograis wins impressively, he should crack the top 10 in most p4p rankings. 
Damn right bro,another potential Fight Of The Year candidate for sure.

I`m riding with Prograis but I feel it`s gonna be a total all out war.

Both guys are great boxers.

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #57 on: October 23, 2019, 12:33:04 PM »
I think it's time to ban boxing

This is something I've struggled with for years. I am not a professional boxer, nor have I ever made a living from the sport, but I have trained in boxing for over 40 years and have suffered from at least 4 concussions as a result of sparring. Professional boxers hit VERY hard, unlike anything most people experience at the hands of a local bar drunk. When you participate in a sport where for 12 rounds (back in the day it was 15 rounds), another well trained killer has one single target to make contact with and that target happens to be the casing for your brain, it is only a matter of time before all parties involved in the sport start to suffer from long-term consequences involving neurological disorders.

I know some will argue that MMA is very similar, but a few of the differences include that there is more than one way to earn points or even win in an MMA match (submission etc) and most MMA fighters do not hit as hard as professional boxers do when it comes to striking with their hands. Football also causes a lot of head trauma, but at least they have helmets and pads. I think that while the ban of boxing will not occur any time soon, I do believe that head gear should be made mandatory for all professional boxing events. For those that don't appreciate the idea, realize that wearing head gear doesn't make that much of a difference. I've been knocked out at least 3 times while wearing head gear, all from the sheer force of impact that rattled my brain.

Something has to change, because there will continue to be horror stories surrounding professional boxers past their retirement. Before, we didn't have social media, today there will be nowhere to hide the gruesome effects from such a medieval sport.

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #58 on: October 23, 2019, 12:56:53 PM »
This is something I've struggled with for years. I am not a professional boxer, nor have I ever made a living from the sport, but I have trained in boxing for over 40 years and have suffered from at least 4 concussions as a result of sparring. Professional boxers hit VERY hard, unlike anything most people experience at the hands of a local bar drunk. When you participate in a sport where for 12 rounds (back in the day it was 15 rounds), another well trained killer has one single target to make contact with and that target happens to be the casing for your brain, it is only a matter of time before all parties involved in the sport start to suffer from long-term consequences involving neurological disorders.

I know some will argue that MMA is very similar, but a few of the differences include that there is more than one way to earn points or even win in an MMA match (submission etc) and most MMA fighters do not hit as hard as professional boxers do when it comes to striking with their hands. Football also causes a lot of head trauma, but at least they have helmets and pads. I think that while the ban of boxing will not occur any time soon, I do believe that head gear should be made mandatory for all professional boxing events. For those that don't appreciate the idea, realize that wearing head gear doesn't make that much of a difference. I've been knocked out at least 3 times while wearing head gear, all from the sheer force of impact that rattled my brain.

Something has to change, because there will continue to be horror stories surrounding professional boxers past their retirement. Before, we didn't have social media, today there will be nowhere to hide the gruesome effects from such a medieval sport.

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You are absolutely right about how hard pro boxers hit.  I worked out at a boxing gym 20 years ago and there were a few pros there including Zab Judah and former world champ from the 80's "Prince" Charles Williams as well as some small time local boxers.  Seeing these guys fight on t.v. is nothing like seeing them up close.  There was one heavyweight who everyone was terrified to even spar against because he hit so hard even sparring.  The guy only fought less than 10 fights before he quit fighting so I can only imagine what a heavyweight champ must hit like.

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2019, 12:58:00 PM »
This is something I've struggled with for years. I am not a professional boxer, nor have I ever made a living from the sport, but I have trained in boxing for over 40 years and have suffered from at least 4 concussions as a result of sparring. Professional boxers hit VERY hard, unlike anything most people experience at the hands of a local bar drunk. When you participate in a sport where for 12 rounds (back in the day it was 15 rounds), another well trained killer has one single target to make contact with and that target happens to be the casing for your brain, it is only a matter of time before all parties involved in the sport start to suffer from long-term consequences involving neurological disorders.

I know some will argue that MMA is very similar, but a few of the differences include that there is more than one way to earn points or even win in an MMA match (submission etc) and most MMA fighters do not hit as hard as professional boxers do when it comes to striking with their hands. Football also causes a lot of head trauma, but at least they have helmets and pads. I think that while the ban of boxing will not occur any time soon, I do believe that head gear should be made mandatory for all professional boxing events. For those that don't appreciate the idea, realize that wearing head gear doesn't make that much of a difference. I've been knocked out at least 3 times while wearing head gear, all from the sheer force of impact that rattled my brain.

Something has to change, because there will continue to be horror stories surrounding professional boxers past their retirement. Before, we didn't have social media, today there will be nowhere to hide the gruesome effects from such a medieval sport.

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the thing that needs to stop in MMA is the fact they have to be dragged off a downed opponent, they should be disciplined enough to stop when told to break, boxers cope well enough

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2019, 01:06:23 PM »
You are absolutely right about how hard pro boxers hit.  I worked out at a boxing gym 20 years ago and there were a few pros there including Zab Judah and former world champ from the 80's "Prince" Charles Williams as well as some small time local boxers.  Seeing these guys fight on t.v. is nothing like seeing them up close.  There was one heavyweight who everyone was terrified to even spar against because he hit so hard even sparring.  The guy only fought less than 10 fights before he quit fighting so I can only imagine what a heavyweight champ must hit like.

I would never want to feel that kind of pain. A Tyson or Lewis in their prime or guys like Fury or Wilder.

Shit, watch these clips of Ray Mercer's top knockouts. The man was a damn savage in his prime. It literally would look like the man was trying to kill people. His knockout of Pegues was downright scary. Holy smokes man.



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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2019, 01:10:46 PM »
the thing that needs to stop in MMA is the fact they have to be dragged off a downed opponent, they should be disciplined enough to stop when told to break, boxers cope well enough


Not everyone does that, but then you also have some really stupid people that fight in MMA.

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2019, 01:14:25 PM »
Not everyone does that, but then you also have some really stupid people that fight in MMA.

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Hitting people that are already unconscious is probably the most dangerous thing you can do, most boxers who get badly damaged are the ones that hit their heads when they go down

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2019, 01:14:43 PM »
This is something I've struggled with for years. I am not a professional boxer, nor have I ever made a living from the sport, but I have trained in boxing for over 40 years and have suffered from at least 4 concussions as a result of sparring. Professional boxers hit VERY hard, unlike anything most people experience at the hands of a local bar drunk. When you participate in a sport where for 12 rounds (back in the day it was 15 rounds), another well trained killer has one single target to make contact with and that target happens to be the casing for your brain, it is only a matter of time before all parties involved in the sport start to suffer from long-term consequences involving neurological disorders.

I know some will argue that MMA is very similar, but a few of the differences include that there is more than one way to earn points or even win in an MMA match (submission etc) and most MMA fighters do not hit as hard as professional boxers do when it comes to striking with their hands. Football also causes a lot of head trauma, but at least they have helmets and pads. I think that while the ban of boxing will not occur any time soon, I do believe that head gear should be made mandatory for all professional boxing events. For those that don't appreciate the idea, realize that wearing head gear doesn't make that much of a difference. I've been knocked out at least 3 times while wearing head gear, all from the sheer force of impact that rattled my brain.

Something has to change, because there will continue to be horror stories surrounding professional boxers past their retirement. Before, we didn't have social media, today there will be nowhere to hide the gruesome effects from such a medieval sport.

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I was a very heavy-handed fighter naturally, and most of my bouts ended in KOs - some pretty bad (sounds boastful but just stating a fact). Head gear would never work in professional boxing; it's not even used in high-level amateur bouts anymore. In my opinion, it does nothing to mitigate the potential damage done to the brain. It just prevents cuts in sparring. I think it also puts people at a greater risk of being hurt because it can affect peripheral vision. Ultimately, boxing is a dangerous, unforgiving and corrupt sport but an adult should have the right to weigh up the risks and participate if they wish.

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2019, 01:24:56 PM »
I was a very heavy-handed fighter naturally, and most of my bouts ended in KOs - some pretty bad (sounds boastful but just stating a fact). Head gear would never work in professional boxing; it's not even used in high-level amateur bouts anymore. In my opinion, it does nothing to mitigate the potential damage done to the brain. It just prevents cuts in sparring. I think it also puts people at a greater risk of being hurt because it can affect peripheral vision. Ultimately, boxing is a dangerous, unforgiving and corrupt sport but an adult should have the right to weigh up the risks and participate if they wish.
I have noticed the lack of headgear in some amateur bouts now.

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2019, 02:44:20 PM »
This is something I've struggled with for years. I am not a professional boxer, nor have I ever made a living from the sport, but I have trained in boxing for over 40 years and have suffered from at least 4 concussions as a result of sparring. Professional boxers hit VERY hard, unlike anything most people experience at the hands of a local bar drunk. When you participate in a sport where for 12 rounds (back in the day it was 15 rounds), another well trained killer has one single target to make contact with and that target happens to be the casing for your brain, it is only a matter of time before all parties involved in the sport start to suffer from long-term consequences involving neurological disorders.

I know some will argue that MMA is very similar, but a few of the differences include that there is more than one way to earn points or even win in an MMA match (submission etc) and most MMA fighters do not hit as hard as professional boxers do when it comes to striking with their hands. Football also causes a lot of head trauma, but at least they have helmets and pads. I think that while the ban of boxing will not occur any time soon, I do believe that head gear should be made mandatory for all professional boxing events. For those that don't appreciate the idea, realize that wearing head gear doesn't make that much of a difference. I've been knocked out at least 3 times while wearing head gear, all from the sheer force of impact that rattled my brain.

Something has to change, because there will continue to be horror stories surrounding professional boxers past their retirement. Before, we didn't have social media, today there will be nowhere to hide the gruesome effects from such a medieval sport.

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I hear you bro ,  but the problem with boxing is that it  is a very lonely sport ,unlike MMA where you can train with bunch of guys form a team  , help  each other, learn from each other , support each other.................. in boxing you are always by yourself  , training by yourself , your family isn't there  ,trainers don't give a fuck about you unless they think you have what it takes to get them out of poverty , when you have a concussion  ,you don't go to the doctor  ,I've had  headaches for 3 - 4  days  straight that I couldn't even sleep or watch tv  , or days after sparring  or a fight  where  I couldn't remember anything that had happened that day ,you don't tell anyone  you just deal with it, 90 % of boxers have some kind of brain damage but nobody talks about it because boxers don't talk about it , every other sport they have   concussion protocol  Football ,Hockey even Soccer ::) , boxing is way worse than any of these sports yet there is not a post concussion return to boxing protocol .

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Re: Patrick Day RIP
« Reply #66 on: October 26, 2019, 06:13:35 AM »
I was watching some Prograis fights earlier. Huge talent and a great puncher, but he has a terrible habit of admiring his work and dropping his hands after throwing a combo. He's open to well-timed counters. Josh definitely has the power and if he's worked on staying in the pocket and countering rather than using his great footwork to get out of danger, then I can see him hurting Prograis.