I think the drugs are a really high percentage but more than training? I've done both natural and enhanced and naturally I looked shredded but extremely thin. At 6'1 shredded naturally I was probably 160-165.
Yes more than training , I used train with a national competitor he was 5'4'' 210lbs , lazy mofo , he was twice my size , all drugs , he went to jail for 5 years ,when he got out he was 140 lbs soaking wet ,I couldn't believe how small he was.
Did you train any different when you were natural and when you were on PED ?