Neck of peace

[Tapeworm]

Nautilus had a great neck machine. Worked all angles. Jones was a genius. You don't find them anymore in any of the gyms I've been to. Neck strength and durability is so important in contact sports but so neglected. The only way I can work my neck conveniently is just using hand resistance. Sucks because my neck has gotten a lot more skinny since the days when I would use that neck machine religiously. And I'm constantly having neck pain and stiffness.

The first one was taken last Saturday and the second one in 1998 (BTW, that was my Raytheon badge picture not a police mug shot).

You can hold plates on front, back, and sides easily. For rotation tie a wide band to a pole and wrap the other end around your head clockwise or counter. Friction will keep it from unspooling just fine.

Ok extensions are kinda a PITA but harnesses are like $20 on amazon. Got one in the cart atm.

[Army of One]

You can hold plates on front, back, and sides easily. For rotation tie a wide band to a pole and wrap the other end around your head clockwise or counter. Friction will keep it from unspooling just fine.

Ok extensions are kinda a PITA but harnesses are like $20 on amazon. Got one in the cart atm.

i hate harnesses, anything over 10kg, one slip and you are risking major injury.

[Tapeworm]

i hate harnesses, anything over 10kg, one slip and you are risking major injury.

Never used one but for $20 I wanted to give it a go. I'm pretty conservative with neck and try to respect the intricacy of the mechanism. I'm not one of those guys who charge full boar until the band on their forehead stops 'em running. Heard a lot of bad talk about bridges so I avoid them too.

I'm rarely under 10 reps so am never failing hard. Can't you just bend down and let the chain take the plate to the floor? Not as safe as a machine with stops for sure but you think more dangerous than holding plates?

[Army of One]

Never used one but for $20 I wanted to give it a go. I'm pretty conservative with neck and try to respect the intricacy of the mechanism. I'm not one of those guys who charge full boar until the band on their forehead stops 'em running. Heard a lot of bad talk about bridges so I avoid them too.

I'm rarely under 10 reps so am never failing hard. Can't you just bend down and let the chain take the plate to the floor? Not as safe as a machine with stops for sure but you think more dangerous than holding plates?

its more the harness strap on your head slips and awkwardly the weight pulls your head in whatever direction its falling or swinging.

[Tapeworm]

Ahh. Chinstrap help? It's bound to be safer than the bands I set up around the headrest in my van so I can train flexion while driving. 

[BB]

Leistner neck helmet -

https://www.facebook.com/drkenleistner/photos/neck-helmet/626513797383930/ .

[oldtimer1]

Put a plate on your fore head on top of a folded towel and do neck curls. Use a cheap harness to do neck extensions. For the sides use hand pressure.

Weight helmets work well. I use one in my home gym.

The best neck machines I have used is the Nautilus four way machine and their neck twist machine. The gym I go to has the four way Nautilus machine. I'm not saying my neck is big. It's not but it's over 17" at 185lbs. I believe neck work should be done once a week for high reps. The neck takes time to recover.  

[Army of One]

this looks like Basilles wet dream.I could imagine him being buried in it.

[pellius]

You can hold plates on front, back, and sides easily. For rotation tie a wide band to a pole and wrap the other end around your head clockwise or counter. Friction will keep it from unspooling just fine.

Ok extensions are kinda a PITA but harnesses are like $20 on amazon. Got one in the cart atm.

The operative word was "conveniently". With the Nautilus machine, you just go in, set the weight with the pin, adjust the seat and you're ready to go. Front, back, both sides. Then he had another machine that worked the twisting motion as well. Pure genius that has never been duplicated.

Resting weights on my head is not easy and not comfortable. You're telling me you balance a dumbbell or plate on your forehead to work the front neck muscles?
And the harness is also a pain, especially in a crowded gym. It's not so bad for working the back of the neck but the weight swinging is a pain and can be dangerous. Forget about working the front and side of the neck.

[Tapeworm]

The operative word was "conveniently". With the Nautilus machine, you just go in, set the weight with the pin, adjust the seat and you're ready to go. Front, back, both sides. Then he had another machine that worked the twisting motion as well. Pure genius that has never been duplicated.

Resting weights on my head is not easy and not comfortable. You're telling me you balance a dumbbell or plate on your forehead to work the front neck muscles?
And the harness is also a pain, especially in a crowded gym. It's not so bad for working the back of the neck but the weight swinging is a pain and can be dangerous. Forget about working the front and side of the neck.

Sure, just put an old rag between your head and the plate. Negatives are easier than they would be on a machine. Other than that I'd guess it's not as convenient or comfortable but the footprint of the gear is a hell of a lot less. I lift at home so gotta piss with the cock I've got.

[oldtimer1]

The operative word was "conveniently". With the Nautilus machine, you just go in, set the weight with the pin, adjust the seat and you're ready to go. Front, back, both sides. Then he had another machine that worked the twisting motion as well. Pure genius that has never been duplicated.

Resting weights on my head is not easy and not comfortable. You're telling me you balance a dumbbell or plate on your forehead to work the front neck muscles?
And the harness is also a pain, especially in a crowded gym. It's not so bad for working the back of the neck but the weight swinging is a pain and can be dangerous. Forget about working the front and side of the neck.

It's really easy to do with a plate on you forehead using a folded towel. You don't balance it without hand guidance. You use your hands to gently guide it and not lift it. Try it. Fold a towel on your forehead and using the guidance of your hands to "balance" the plate. Don't use your hands to lift the plate and do neck curls while lying on a bench. It's a very effective method. Regarding a neck harness a quality one comes with D rings attached that can be used with a pulley for side and back work but it's not optimal. If you are losing your hair forget about it. Again in my experience the nautilus neck machine is the best one made.

[pellius]

Sure, just put an old rag between your head and the plate. Negatives are easier than they would be on a machine. Other than that I'd guess it's not as convenient or comfortable but the footprint of the gear is a hell of a lot less. I lift at home so gotta piss with the cock I've got.

LMAO! I'm going to use that.

[pellius]

It's really easy to do with a plate on you forehead using a folded towel. You don't balance it without hand guidance. You use your hands to gently guide it and not lift it. Try it. Fold a towel on your forehead and using the guidance of your hands to "balance" the plate. Don't use your hands to lift the plate and do neck curls while lying on a bench. It's a very effective method. Regarding a neck harness a quality one comes with D rings attached that can be used with a pulley for side and back work but it's not optimal. If you are losing your hair forget about it. Again in my experience the nautilus neck machine is the best one made.

My workouts are different now that I'm older and not involved in sports anymore. I want to spend the least amount of time in the gym necessary to stay in decent shape. I use the old Arthur Jones adage about training your muscles anaerobically and your body aerobically at the same time so I don't have to do separate cardio. So I have to keep moving. Going from one exercise to the next with the only "rest" being the time walking to the other station. I don't want to interrupt that with setting up a harness or the awkwardness of resting weights on my head. I do my neck: front, back, side to side, twisting back and forth just using hand pressure. It's part of my warm before I hit the weights. You have to make trade-offs and to me, it's just not worth it to make big project out of neck work.   

[IRON CROSS]

this looks like Basilles wet dream.I could imagine him being buried in it.

                                       

[Darren Avey]

i hate harnesses, anything over 10kg, one slip and you are risking major injury.

Rugby dude at my gym reps 60kg