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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #100 on: May 29, 2020, 01:39:37 AM »
ESPN talked about this a couple days ago, and the four analysts picked Serena Willams, Tom Brady and Tiger Woods twice. I just can’t see it. Michael Jordan, ok... I can see a case being made for him. Honestly, Cristiano Ronaldo who never gets mentioned has a good case too as he has been at the top of his sport which is at least 10x more popular than golf, tennis and American football, which the ESPN guys picked.

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #101 on: May 29, 2020, 02:10:25 AM »
ESPN talked about this a couple days ago, and the four analysts picked Serena Willams, Tom Brady and Tiger Woods twice. I just can’t see it. Michael Jordan, ok... I can see a case being made for him. Honestly, Cristiano Ronaldo who never gets mentioned has a good case too as he has been at the top of his sport which is at least 10x more popular than golf, tennis and American football, which the ESPN guys picked.

Problem with any football (soccer) player, is due to the amount of players, the ball being so hard to control, you can watch whole world cups, european championships etc and wonder if messi or ronaldo were even on the pitch.They are more celebrated for brief moments of genius, whereas someone like Jordan brought it for the full game, every game.

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #102 on: May 29, 2020, 03:11:58 AM »
For anyone not sure on jordan, watch from 28 minutes here.



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Fantastic but he called the Warriors juggernauts.  There's no way they get through the East Conf in Jordans era with no fucking inside game and all 3 pt shots.  I contest that Boston and Indiana shooters match them 3 for 3 and get them in foul trouble every game by the 3rd.  Trash generation of basketball, just like the music industry. 

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #103 on: May 29, 2020, 03:15:27 AM »
The NBA is the highest paid league in the world.

Baseball doesn't have salary caps.

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #104 on: May 29, 2020, 03:20:04 AM »
Karsten Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. The Williams sisters adjusted their claim to beating men outside the top 350."
I know this story too. But, to be fair, girls were 17 and 16 back then. They evolved a lot.
But around 200, 150 if the male has sun to his eyes and no hat or glasses. 😀

Was it McEnroe who talked about this quite recently and got shit from female sports reporters?

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #105 on: May 29, 2020, 04:43:48 AM »
ESPN talked about this a couple days ago, and the four analysts picked Serena Willams, Tom Brady and Tiger Woods twice. I just can’t see it. Michael Jordan, ok... I can see a case being made for him. Honestly, Cristiano Ronaldo who never gets mentioned has a good case too as he has been at the top of his sport which is at least 10x more popular than golf, tennis and American football, which the ESPN guys picked.

Cristiano Ronaldo isn't even the best of his era. That accolade goes to Lionel Messi.

Tom Brady is a hard one to call when you take into account other sports. He obviously has the record to be considered the G.O.A.T in NFL and if you're talking just mentality he's a valid candidate, but the QB role has too narrow a skillset to come into consideration. It's almost unfair to compare a guy who only played offense and called plays that end of the game to someone like Jordan who was elite at offense, elite at defense and led the team.

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #106 on: May 29, 2020, 05:47:29 AM »
Whether you think he's the greatest athlete of all time or even the best at his sport, MJ passes the "Eye test" better than any athlete in any sports history.
Anyone age 5-95 can watch a video of MJ jumping from the foul line or doing a crazy reverse layup and know without a doubt that he is an exceptional athlete. 

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #107 on: May 29, 2020, 06:47:18 AM »
Statistically no sportsman comes even remotely close to bradman in terms of being a dominant outlier (in the 2nd biggest sport in the world)



https://www.statslife.org.uk/sports/1989-did-don-bradman-s-cricketing-genius-make-him-a-statistical-outlier


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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #108 on: May 29, 2020, 08:37:17 AM »
Some say the hardest thing to do in sports is hitting a 100 MPH fastball.  Mike Trout is dominating baseball like no other.  He is just entering his prime and is a multiple MVP and top 3 for a bunch of years.  Not sure how you can call Tiger an Athlete when he's hitting a stationary ball, then taking a leisure walk to hit the ball again.  Sure golf is difficult but it's a game and not a sport.  Tiger would piss in his pants if he had to stand at a plate and watch a pitcher throw a bullet right at him time and time again.

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #109 on: May 29, 2020, 09:47:42 AM »
Some say the hardest thing to do in sports is hitting a 100 MPH fastball.  Mike Trout is dominating baseball like no other.  He is just entering his prime and is a multiple MVP and top 3 for a bunch of years.  Not sure how you can call Tiger an Athlete when he's hitting a stationary ball, then taking a leisure walk to hit the ball again.  Sure golf is difficult but it's a game and not a sport.  Tiger would piss in his pants if he had to stand at a plate and watch a pitcher throw a bullet right at him time and time again.

In cricket it's legal and a genuine strategy to aim the ball at a batters body and even their head. Also they wore no helmets for nearly a 100 years.

They even had a series called "bodyline"

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #110 on: May 29, 2020, 10:01:36 AM »
Look at guys like Charlie Ward.  Most of you are like who?  He went to Florida State.  Won the Heisman Trophy as best College Football Player , the National Title and the next year went to play NBA basketball instead and was a first round draft pick and I believe he also was a great pitcher and could have played MLB.  Talk about gifted athlete that no one talks about.

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #111 on: May 29, 2020, 10:11:49 AM »
Look at guys like Charlie Ward.  Most of you are like who?  He went to Florida State.  Won the Heisman Trophy as best College Football Player , the National Title and the next year went to play NBA basketball instead and was a first round draft pick and I believe he also was a great pitcher and could have played MLB.  Talk about gifted athlete that no one talks about.

Danny Ainge was also an All American in baseball, basketball and football in high school, and played for the bluejays in the MLB while in college and before he decided to go in to the NBA.

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #112 on: May 29, 2020, 10:13:47 AM »
Basketball is one of  the lowest level of skill of any major professional sport. It is pure genetics, and while the greatest physical athletes are in the NBA, the skill level is very low compared to tennis. Tennis players routinely return 130mph serves, 40 mph faster than a very fast baseball pitcher, with spin on them and they have to return it with strings on a racket.

I have personally seen black dudes that never practice, have a horrible work ethic and are 6'8 and can dunk from the free throw line and get college scholarships with VERY low skill levels. Shaq sucks at basketball and if he was 6'1 in height would struggle to make a high school team.

90% of NBA players that are 7 feet tall or over could not play basketball at a junior college if they were average human height because their skill level SUCKS.  While there are exceptions like Steph Curry, and even Jordan, Kobe, and mostly shorter players like point guards who have tremendous skill, the skill of basketball vs tennis is not even comparable which is why every top tennis player had to begin serious training hours a day in a private camp by age 14 or its too late. There are 17 year old basketball phenoms that smoke weed all day and don't go to practice but are genetically able to dominate. Call it racist but it's true.

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #113 on: May 29, 2020, 10:14:04 AM »
Some say the hardest thing to do in sports is hitting a 100 MPH fastball.  Mike Trout is dominating baseball like no other.  He is just entering his prime and is a multiple MVP and top 3 for a bunch of years.  Not sure how you can call Tiger an Athlete when he's hitting a stationary ball, then taking a leisure walk to hit the ball again.  Sure golf is difficult but it's a game and not a sport.  Tiger would piss in his pants if he had to stand at a plate and watch a pitcher throw a bullet right at him time and time again.

The hardest thing in sports is not hitting a fastball, get real.

You think standing in on a pitched baseball is scarier than racing a Formula 1 car? Or racing a Formula 1 car in the rain?

If you want to just measure on overall physical attributes alone, then the greatest athletes in the world probably play wide receiver or running back in the NFL.

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #114 on: May 29, 2020, 10:17:46 AM »


Shaq sucks at basketball and if he was 6'1 in height would struggle to make a high school team.



Complete myth.Thats Jordan guarding him in an all star game pre game shootaround.


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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #115 on: May 29, 2020, 10:54:47 AM »
Years ago, ESPN assembled a panel of experts to determine which sport demanded the most from the athletes who compete in it. The experts ranked 60 sports on 10 different skills, including endurance, speed, agility, and hand-eye coordination. Their verdict: boxing is the most difficult sport while hockey is a close second.

These are the most difficult sports but what’s the most difficult thing to do in any sport?

Before you reply, I’m referring to something that’s a normal part of the sport. Maybe it only happens infrequently but it can and does happen. An 80-yard field goal in football doesn’t count because it won’t ever get attempted (I know, I know – never say never).  Similarly, a full court basket has happened but you wouldn’t consider it a normal part of basketball.

Popular wisdom seems to claim that hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in sports. There’s plenty of science that backs up how difficult it is to see a fastball, react to its trajectory, and make contact – all in less than ½ of a second. Even from a surface area perspective, the baseball only takes up less than 2% of the strike zone. Hitting a baseball is clearly very difficult.

It’s difficult but not impossible. Over the years, the league-wide batting average has generally ranged between .250 and .275. Since batting average doesn’t include walks and hit-by-pitch, it essentially means batters are successful 25% of the time.

I non-scientifically checked the success percentage for several other feats in sports and noticed that stopping a penalty kick might be even harder than hitting a baseball – at least from a percentage standpoint. A study of 138 penalty shots in World Cup Finals games between 1982 and 1994 showed that goalies stopped only 14.5% of the shots. In fact, goalies correctly guessed the direction of the kick only 41% of the time; that’s worse than random. Other studies show the success rate as a little higher (perhaps 18%) but still lower than hitting a baseball.

Does this mean stopping a penalty kick is harder than hitting a baseball? Not conclusively. It’s hard to compare the two events since a hitter comes up to the plate multiple times a game whereas a soccer player might go many months without attempting a penalty shot. Practice might not make perfect but it does improve the odds of success.

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Re: Michael Jordan - The G.O.A.T of all sports
« Reply #116 on: May 29, 2020, 11:26:00 AM »
Clearly you do.Anyone even slightly well read and educated would know African Americans choosing better paying sports is the main reason for the decline in the heavier weights of American Professional Boxing.Your ignorance doesnt make you right.

Good to know that it is just the heavier weights of American Professional Boxing that declined , it's awesome that  all the other weight classes  are thriving ,I'm glad to hear the American amateur  boxers are still winning Gold medals in the Olympics like in the 70's -80's , thank you Army of One for letting me know that 100's  of non-profit  boxing gym in the inner city are still open and  are immune to gentrification', awesome to know that you can find real boxing  gyms  and real coaches (not  boxercise  trainers ) anywhere in the US...................... ........................ ...etc

BTW kids don't chose sports according to  how much  they will get paid if they make it , that's a stupid  fucking statement .