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Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« on: December 17, 2020, 03:35:46 PM »
for real lower back pain. If you can barely stand you’re in real lower back pain. The best exercise is the good morning where you bend Foward and lock you’re knees and go deeper into the stretch as you breathe, do not round the back. Keep your ass out in anterior tilt . You can also have one leg out further than the other

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2020, 03:42:10 PM »
I had a trainer who told me that this kind of severe lower back stiffness was due to tightness in the hams.  Stretch out the hams, so yeah good mornings do that too.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2020, 03:48:24 PM »
I had a trainer who told me that this kind of severe lower back stiffness was due to tightness in the hams.  Stretch out the hams, so yeah good mornings do that too.
good mornings stretches the part of the hams responsible for my back pain. Other ham stretches with a bent knee don’t seem to work

I think we all round our backs and squat when we pick something off the floor. Years of doing this creates a groove and an imbalance. You have to really mentally focus on form with a good morning
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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2020, 04:05:12 PM »
good mornings stretches the part of the hams responsible for my back pain. Other ham stretches with a bent knee don’t seem to work

I think we all round our backs and squat when we pick something off the floor. Years of doing this creates a groove and an imbalance. You have to really mentally focus on form with a good morning

Some people say good mornings are hard on your lower back. I've not found this to be the case with me. Quite the opposite. I do them stiff legged. When you bend your knees it becomes a completely different exercise. My arms are long. At about the third rep I can put my palms flat on the floor. I've also done them holding a lightweight (40 or 50 lbs) barbell across my shoulders. If you do them right, you'll feel it in your hams the next day or so.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2020, 04:42:44 PM »
Some people say good mornings are hard on your lower back. I've not found this to be the case with me. Quite the opposite. I do them stiff legged. When you bend your knees it becomes a completely different exercise. My arms are long. At about the third rep I can put my palms flat on the floor. I've also done them holding a lightweight (40 or 50 lbs) barbell across my shoulders. If you do them right, you'll feel it in your hams the next day or so.
exactly bending the knees make it a squat
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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2020, 04:44:00 PM »
Bruce Lee wrecked his back doing good mornings. 

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2020, 04:52:14 PM »
Bruce Lee wrecked his back doing good mornings.

A lot of people have.

I do them all the time. I would never do them with locked knees with weight, that's a good way to end up like Bruce.

If you add weight, bend the knees and lean at your hips.  Good mornings are supposed to work you hams too. Keep your legs steady and focus on just using your hams/back to move the weight, if you are using the quads you are doing something off.

With locked knees it's more of a stretch, which is good too.

If you have lower back problems and haven't seen a Doc, try using an inversion table for 30 minutes a day. You most likely have a disc problem, like i do.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2020, 04:58:32 PM »
Bruce Lee wrecked his back doing good mornings.

Not everyone is built the same. Not everyone uses good form. Not everyone keeps the resistance or reps to a sensible level. Like I said, I have long arms which definitely makes it easier for me to do good mornings. I also gradually stretch my back. It would be madness to hit palms to the floor on the first rep.

However, if you ask ten people whether good mornings are safe for your back, nine will tell you no, including my physical therapist who has treated my for nerve pain in my right knee and spasms in my lower back which are caused by my having degenerative disk disease (not caused by good mornings). And maybe they aren't for most folks.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2020, 05:01:23 PM »
A lot of people have.

I do them all the time. I would never do them with locked knees with weight, that's a good way to end up like Bruce.

If you add weight, bend the knees and lean at your hips.  Good mornings are supposed to work you hams too. Keep your legs steady and focus on just using your hams/back to move the weight, if you are using the quads you are doing something off.

With locked knees it's more of a stretch, which is good too.

If you have lower back problems and haven't seen a Doc, try using an inversion table for 30 minutes a day. You most likely have a disc problem, like i do.

A friend loaned me his inversion table. It really relieved a lot of pressure on my spine. It's a weird feeling though to hang inverted for any length of time. Takes getting used to. I don't think I ever stayed inverted for 30 minutes.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2020, 05:05:43 PM »
A friend loaned me his inversion table. It really relieved a lot of pressure on my spine. It's a weird feeling though to hang inverted for any length of time. Takes getting used to. I don't think I ever stayed inverted for 30 minutes.

That's true, i had to work up to 30 minutes. Also started at a small angle and slowly increased it. I swear it did more for my back than anything i've tried in 15 years. Still do them 3 days a week.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2020, 06:40:15 PM »
That's true, i had to work up to 30 minutes. Also started at a small angle and slowly increased it. I swear it did more for my back than anything i've tried in 15 years. Still do them 3 days a week.

I'd get one except I nowhere to set it up except the garage and to do that, I'd have to give up parking my car there.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2020, 06:49:59 PM »
My first real gym had long wooden poles for these and side twists.  You don't see those much in gyms anymore.  My current one doesn't have one.  Might have to get the hacksaw to the broom.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2020, 07:00:15 PM »
A lot of people have.

I do them all the time. I would never do them with locked knees with weight, that's a good way to end up like Bruce.

If you add weight, bend the knees and lean at your hips.  Good mornings are supposed to work you hams too. Keep your legs steady and focus on just using your hams/back to move the weight, if you are using the quads you are doing something off.

With locked knees it's more of a stretch, which is good too.

If you have lower back problems and haven't seen a Doc, try using an inversion table for 30 minutes a day. You most likely have a disc problem, like i do.
i see no point in adding weight if I get into a 90 degree bend with a good morning and locked knees and hold that position for a  minute going deeper each breath it’s literally the best exercise ever
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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2020, 07:36:36 PM »
Lots of people with lower back pain have weak posterior chain muscles and overall tightness.

Would stand on a baseball and roll each day to loosen, do 90/90 hip flow movements, then work in single leg glute bridges or something to strengthen.
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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2020, 12:47:02 AM »
Lots of people with lower back pain have weak posterior chain muscles and overall tightness.

Would stand on a baseball and roll each day to loosen, do 90/90 hip flow movements, then work in single leg glute bridges or something to strengthen.

Explain to me how to stand on a baseball? I've stood on the flat side of a Bosu balance trainer, which was incredibly hard for me at first. With those, it all about building your core and regaining your balance. Actually, core exercises are de rigueur in physical therapy training for back problems. Even when I'm too lazy to do anything else, I'll do 15 or 20 minutes of core exercises.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2020, 02:53:52 PM »
i see no point in adding weight if I get into a 90 degree bend with a good morning and locked knees and hold that position for a  minute going deeper each breath it’s literally the best exercise ever

That's great for stretching, but you also want to strengthen your lower back and trunk too. A lot of back problems are caused by muscle imbalances in that area.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2020, 02:57:59 PM »
Bruce Lee wrecked his back doing good mornings.

he used a barbell behind his neck.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2020, 03:28:52 PM »
GMs have to be one of the worst exercises you could ever perform.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2020, 04:06:16 PM »
GMs have to be one of the worst exercises you could ever perform.
ive always hated gms , and thus became a weakness leading to injury
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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2020, 04:14:51 PM »
GMs have to be one of the worst exercises you could ever perform.

Like anything, this depends on how you do them.

"In my opinion, Good Mornings done properly are one of the best posterior chain exercises," says Seedman. "But when they're performed improperly, they're probably the single most dangerous exercise you can do."

https://www.stack.com/a/why-you-should-be-doing-good-mornings-to-strengthen-your-glutes-hamstrings-and-lower-back#:~:text=Benefits%20of%20the%20Good%20Morning,-The%20Good%20Morning&text=The%20exercise%20primarily%20strengthens%20the,your%20thighs)%20drive%20the%20movement.

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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2020, 04:25:13 PM »
for real lower back pain. If you can barely stand you’re in real lower back pain. The best exercise is the good morning where you bend Foward and lock you’re knees and go deeper into the stretch as you breathe, do not round the back. Keep your ass out in anterior tilt . You can also have one leg out further than the other


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Re: Non weighted good mornings if you have painful lower back
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2020, 04:27:40 PM »
Good morning you fucking nitwit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111
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