Is covid (or the vax) killing bodybuilders at a higher than average rate?

[slow and steady]

We all know that bodybuilders are dropping like flies in the past two years...

theories -

Bodybuilders are immunologically compromised as a result of their lifestyle - the virus may hit them a lot harder (look at what happened to Tony Huge as an example and I also heard of a pro bb who went into a coma from covid (cant recall his name - a middle eastern guy iirc).  If you are young and fit you will generally be just fine, but not these guys...

Steroids supercharge the virus, or (if the vaccines have unknown risks) the steroids supercharge the dangerous issues in the vaccine.

[Matt]

I've counted 35 bodybuilding + fitness/figure deaths since vaccine rollout.

Those are ALL deaths, and some were unrelated [I think at least one suicide is in there].

Some are loose connections, like Chris Dickerson, who was 82 when he died.

But one thing is not in dispute: there have been more industry deaths since vaccine rollout than any period of equal length since the first modern era pro died in January of 2004 [Sonny Schmidt].

IMO, there is an issue with bodybuilders having thicker blood than average, which may result in clotting issues due to overproduction of the spike protein from the vaccine.

POSSIBLY.

The virus itself may also be resulting in some of these deaths.

But any of that can be debated - what CANNOT be debated is that we've had more bodybuilding deaths than ever before, and they didn't start in 2020 with Covid, but in 2021, with the vaccine rollout [time wise - whether they are directly correlated can't be said yet...but the increase in industry deaths is undeniable].

[slow and steady]

I've counted 35 bodybuilding + fitness/figure deaths since vaccine rollout.

we've had more bodybuilding deaths than ever before, and they didn't start in 2020 with Covid, but in 2021, with the vaccine rollout

Thanks for clarifying this, I had a suspicion it might be the case, but didn't know the dates of death well enough.

This really narrows it down a lot!

[Gym-Rat]

We all know that bodybuilders are dropping like flies in the past two years...

theories -

Bodybuilders are immunologically compromised as a result of their lifestyle - the virus may hit them a lot harder (look at what happened to Tony Huge as an example and I also heard of a pro bb who went into a coma from covid (cant recall his name - a middle eastern guy iirc).  If you are young and fit you will generally be just fine, but not these guys...

Steroids supercharge the virus, or (if the vaccines have unknown risks) the steroids supercharge the dangerous issues in the vaccine.

Welcome to the thunderdome.... Fuckface!!!!!!!!!!

[Matt]

Thanks for clarifying this, I had a suspicion it might be the case, but didn't know the dates of death well enough.

This really narrows it down a lot!

No problem.

There's no doubt that numbers are up - whether those increased deaths are definitely attributable to the vaccines is not necessarily known - but the fact that the number of deaths have accelerated is irrefutable.

We will find out more as time goes on.

I do personally believe the vaccine is a factor. Again - these deaths didn't start in 2020 with Covid, but in 2021. And what started in 2021 was the rollout of the vaccines.

That's still not "proof" - but it's definitely enough to make me turn and scratch my head. Time will tell.

Welcome to Getbig.

[Humble Narcissist]

Bad Chinese made gear?

[Royalty]

Shawn Rhoden was not vaccinated

[joswift]

Shawn Rhoden was not vaccinated

Oak incoming to explain thats why he died.

[wes]

Welcome to the thunderdome.... Fuckface!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks GR....your check is in the mail. 

[Gym-Rat]

Thanks GR....your check is in the mail. 

 

[slow and steady]

Shawn Rhoden was not vaccinated

which goes to my other point

theories -

Bodybuilders are immunologically compromised as a result of their lifestyle - the virus may hit them a lot harder (look at what happened to Tony Huge as an example and I also heard of a pro bb who went into a coma from covid (cant recall his name - a middle eastern guy iirc).  If you are young and fit you will generally be just fine, but not these guys...

I still suspect guys on lots of gear are getting SICKER from the virus than the average person. 

[jude2]

Shawn Rhoden was not vaccinated

Source? I heard her was.

[Flexacon]

We all know that bodybuilders are dropping like flies in the past two years...

theories -

Bodybuilders are immunologically compromised as a result of their lifestyle - the virus may hit them a lot harder (look at what happened to Tony Huge as an example and I also heard of a pro bb who went into a coma from covid (cant recall his name - a middle eastern guy iirc).  If you are young and fit you will generally be just fine, but not these guys...

Steroids supercharge the virus, or (if the vaccines have unknown risks) the steroids supercharge the dangerous issues in the vaccine.

People living with high blood pressure are immunologically compromised. Extreme bodybuilding lifestyle and high blood pressure go hand in hand.

[slow and steady]

Looks like someone read this thread and asked Dave...

[Rusty Trombone]

which goes to my other point

I still suspect guys on lots of gear are getting SICKER from the virus than the average person.

Well of course they do. Androgens suppress the immune system. Plus their cardiovascular health is already compromised from decades of high dose use.

[Matt]

which goes to my other point

I still suspect guys on lots of gear are getting SICKER from the virus than the average person.

Yes. You could almost call extreme gear abuse to be a comorbidity.

Almost.

No doubt there are massive PED abusing bodybuilders who are in excellent health, based on all available health tests.

But as an average, I'd say they are not in as good a shape to fight the virus as they would be, had they not been on that number of PED's.

The truth of this entire pandemic is:

We don't know until we know.

Every stupid asshole "expert" who made wrong predictions this entire time had NO WAY to make such predictions at the time, because there are certain things we can't know until we have the data.

Some of the early YouTube propaganda PSA's from the Ontario government said "Most vaccine side effects are not long-term."

How could they possibly say that when WE HAD NO LONG-TERM.

There is NO WAY we can comment on 3-5-7+ year outcomes of the vaccines, because WE HAVEN'T HAD 3-5-7 YEARS POST-ROLLOUT yet. 

Don't get me wrong - my take is that problems would already be showing up if they were going to. But that's NOT THE POINT. The point is, as I said, we don't know until we know.

In another year or two, I'll be able to make a better analysis about the vaccine side effects.

Until then - we just don't know.