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No one should qualify for the Olympia the following year!
« on: October 22, 2022, 06:35:30 AM »
I've said this before and truly believe it. At that level it creates an unfair advantage for Mr. Olympia and the top 5-6 that qualify for the next year's. Mr. O. The competitors have to put their bodies through hell to qualify by winning shows or winning enough points throughout the year. By the time they get to the O their bodies are tired when they're supposed to be at their best.

There needs to be a level playing field. It's better for bodybuilding when Ramy, Hadi, Hunter, Brandon and Nick have to compete in other shows throughout the year. It's better for the promoters, the fans and fair to the other bodybuilders. Overall it's better for bodybuilding. Why they've been able to enjoy this overwhelming advantage is beyond me.  Travel throughout the year, make money, rest their bodies, then train and only peak once a year and have the advantage of unless you absolutely suck, you're more than  likely winning again. That's trash and it needs to be changed.

I enjoy the show Prime Time Muscle with Terrick El Guindy (Pro Judge) Chris Cormer, and Tim Wilkins (Comedian, radio guy, MC and Competitor) and at 35:45 Terrick and Chris echo the same sentiment. In the future, I hope this is something that can get done. It would be better for bodybuilding. This should apply to all classes. It is of my opinion guys like Ronnie, Jay, Phil, Ramy would have difficulties peaking twice in a year. Ex: Ronnie tried in 01 and damn near lost to Jay. In addition to being fair, it creates parity and that's a good thing for bodybuilding vs. predictable.

There also needs to be a cap on how many people can be on stage in each class at the O. This year will be entirely too many. There's 30 qualified in the open class alone.  This is supposed to be the best of the best and the way its currently ran, this ain't it. 10 people from each class for the O.

It keeps it elite and special and it also makes the other shows more special and lucrative because this is where most will have to make their bones and more money will be able to be offered in prize money because there will be more in attendance because more and better bodybuilders will be competing.  Bodybuilding wins.

What say you all?

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Re: No one should qualify for the Olympia the following year!
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2022, 07:15:32 AM »
I've said this before and truly believe it. At that level it creates an unfair advantage for Mr. Olympia and the top 5-6 that qualify for the next year's. Mr. O. The competitors have to put their bodies through hell to qualify by winning shows or winning enough points throughout the year. By the time they get to the O their bodies are tired when they're supposed to be at their best.

There needs to be a level playing field. It's better for bodybuilding when Ramy, Hadi, Hunter, Brandon and Nick have to compete in other shows throughout the year. It's better for the promoters, the fans and fair to the other bodybuilders. Overall it's better for bodybuilding. Why they've been able to enjoy this overwhelming advantage is beyond me.  Travel throughout the year, make money, rest their bodies, then train and only peak once a year and have the advantage of unless you absolutely suck, you're more than  likely winning again. That's trash and it needs to be changed.

I enjoy the show Prime Time Muscle with Terrick El Guindy (Pro Judge) Chris Cormer, and Tim Wilkins (Comedian, radio guy, MC and Competitor) and at 35:45 Terrick and Chris echo the same sentiment. In the future, I hope this is something that can get done. It would be better for bodybuilding. This should apply to all classes. It is of my opinion guys like Ronnie, Jay, Phil, Ramy would have difficulties peaking twice in a year. Ex: Ronnie tried in 01 and damn near lost to Jay. In addition to being fair, it creates parity and that's a good thing for bodybuilding vs. predictable.

There also needs to be a cap on how many people can be on stage in each class at the O. This year will be entirely too many. There's 30 qualified in the open class alone.  This is supposed to be the best of the best and the way its currently ran, this ain't it. 10 people from each class for the O.

It keeps it elite and special and it also makes the other shows more special and lucrative because this is where most will have to make their bones and more money will be able to be offered in prize money because there will be more in attendance because more and better bodybuilders will be competing.  Bodybuilding wins.

What say you all?



Thats a really good point that Ive never considered.  I agree.

Think about it: if you have to enter a show the same year as the Olympia in order to qualify for the Olympia it would probably limit the size of tge competitors too. For example Ramy or Nick have had an entire year to put on size but if just once this year if they had to diet down for a competition  it would limit how big they get in the off season. In turn it should lead to a more quality proportioned physique and not a grotesque drug experiment.

It could be taken a step further: you have to qualify within so many months of the Olympia or you must compete X many times in the same calendar year?

Maybe THE Mr. Olympia gets automatic entry but everyone else has to qualify?

If there were some way to ensure that the competitors never exceeded what was achieved in the 80's and 90's id be all for it. The current condition of the competitors is not something that interests me. I would rather be built like a shitty 80's guy like Chris Dickerson than Big Ramy.

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Re: No one should qualify for the Olympia the following year!
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2022, 01:07:58 PM »
I've said this before and truly believe it. At that level it creates an unfair advantage for Mr. Olympia and the top 5-6 that qualify for the next year's. Mr. O. The competitors have to put their bodies through hell to qualify by winning shows or winning enough points throughout the year. By the time they get to the O their bodies are tired when they're supposed to be at their best.

There needs to be a level playing field. It's better for bodybuilding when Ramy, Hadi, Hunter, Brandon and Nick have to compete in other shows throughout the year. It's better for the promoters, the fans and fair to the other bodybuilders. Overall it's better for bodybuilding. Why they've been able to enjoy this overwhelming advantage is beyond me.  Travel throughout the year, make money, rest their bodies, then train and only peak once a year and have the advantage of unless you absolutely suck, you're more than  likely winning again. That's trash and it needs to be changed.

I enjoy the show Prime Time Muscle with Terrick El Guindy (Pro Judge) Chris Cormer, and Tim Wilkins (Comedian, radio guy, MC and Competitor) and at 35:45 Terrick and Chris echo the same sentiment. In the future, I hope this is something that can get done. It would be better for bodybuilding. This should apply to all classes. It is of my opinion guys like Ronnie, Jay, Phil, Ramy would have difficulties peaking twice in a year. Ex: Ronnie tried in 01 and damn near lost to Jay. In addition to being fair, it creates parity and that's a good thing for bodybuilding vs. predictable.

There also needs to be a cap on how many people can be on stage in each class at the O. This year will be entirely too many. There's 30 qualified in the open class alone.  This is supposed to be the best of the best and the way its currently ran, this ain't it. 10 people from each class for the O.

It keeps it elite and special and it also makes the other shows more special and lucrative because this is where most will have to make their bones and more money will be able to be offered in prize money because there will be more in attendance because more and better bodybuilders will be competing.  Bodybuilding wins.

What say you all?



If there was no qualifying then most IFBB pro shows would go bust....not only that, I long time ago when you didn't have to qualify, the stage was littered with people who had no chance of winning.   

What you're describing has already been done before and time to peak doesn't make a difference.  Ronnie Coleman was winning the Mr Olympia along with other Grand Prix shows...even won the Mr Olympia and Arnold Classic in one of those years.  Its good the way it is
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