Cool story bro....who's the asshole here?

[Matt]

This is why I'm so careful to block everything out completely when I post something online.

https://www.pregnology.com/names/index.php?searchnames=1&begins_with=M&ends_with=Y&popularity=0&origin=&gender=F&smeaning=&sort=

[Never1AShow]

Here's a suggestion: Offer to buy the new remote and program it, but also offer to give him the balance of the $210 or whatever it is if it doesn't work to his satisfaction (but make clear that you are not agreeing the balance is necessary and you believe the demand for the balance is very unreasonable).  He'll never let you near the house to program it because it sounds like he's scared and that's why he won't go for the "replacement that you program" suggestion.  So he won't agree and you end up having to pay nothing, his choice, even though he would have got his whole demand.

Also this gives you the high road that he'll refuse but you can always say "hey, I offered to pay you the rest despite it being ridiculously unreasonable"

[Matt]

Here's a suggestion: Offer to buy the new remote and program it, but also offer to give him the balance of the $210 or whatever it is if it doesn't work to his satisfaction (but make clear that you are not agreeing the balance is necessary and you believe the demand for the balance is very unreasonable).  He'll never let you near the house to program it because it sounds like he's scared and that's why he won't go for the "replacement that you program" suggestion.  So he won't agree and you end up having to pay nothing, his choice, even though he would have got his whole demand.

Also this gives you the high road that he'll refuse but you can always say "hey, I offered to pay you the rest despite it being ridiculously unreasonable"

That's a good one, because if he accepts it, it's cnfirmation that he is being unreasonable.

I'd be curious how that situation would play out. He might just default back to demanding the money.

Could something to wrong while programming it? Are there potential security issues not being mentioned here?

[Fallsview]

Three pages for a garage door opener...boy...night court must have broke early.

[Never1AShow]

That's a good one, because if he accepts it, it's cnfirmation that he is being unreasonable.

I'd be curious how that situation would play out. He might just default back to demanding the money.

Could something to wrong while programming it? Are there potential security issues not being mentioned here?

Based on beakdoctor's long description it doesn't sound like there's any reasonable security issues if they did a walk thru and everything, but I still think the guy doesn't want him anywhere near the house.  With no rental agreement i think the landlord is screwed no matter what and frankly deserves it.

[beakdoctor]

Based on beakdoctor's long description it doesn't sound like there's any reasonable security issues if they did a walk thru and everything, but I still think the guy doesn't want him anywhere near the house.  With no rental agreement i think the landlord is screwed no matter what and frankly deserves it.

Thats whats really bizarre.  We left on great terms last month after the walkthrough. Hell I gave the prick over 500 bucks worth off yard tools and a husky tool box. I went over there a few times to check the mail for late deliveries.  Which I asked permission to do and he was like 'sure, anytime. '

Now he doesn't even want me going over to check the mail.

Weird, something changed. I don't know what. I guess my only concern is future rentals may require a reference and there's a 3 year gap where I lived there and can't depend on this limp dick. Despite having been a good renter.

I used to own my own house in PDX but sold it just before the pandemic and have been renting ever since. Ill never buy property in Portland again. Place is turning into a shithole haven for homeless drug addicts, femnazi's, self loathing whites and whacky tree hugging, liberal hippie fucks. Can't wait to move out of this fucking state.

[delon]

Based on what you've detailed you are predominately right on this matter in terms of your proposed course of action, but by way of a possible explanation on landlord's behaviour...

I don't think the landlord sounds overly confrontational, and clearly doesn't want to engage and is aiming to remain reasonably civil, while at the same time attempting to stay firm ,and there could be a couple of explanations for this

1) You mentioned they have no experience as landlords, don't know the ins and outs, and also no handyman knowledge at all. So given this, from their perspective they are likely going to trust a professional company that has given them a quote of sorts - exhorbitant as it is once the callout service fee is included - rather than a now ex-tenant, despite your reasoned rebuttals

2)The second possible factor is more speculative , but there may be some conscious minor level of resentment that has recently set in based on you being able to lock in your rent for 3 years during which time presumably rents increased,thus representing lost income for them in their eyes. This realisation may have only recently crystallized as they are no doubt in the process of working out what they may be able to charge the next renters based on the current market

These everday injustice matters, relatively minor as they are, eat at you I get it 100% ,but it may be worth taking the hit on this given your thoughts on future rental referrals

Guess it's about picking your battles and perhaps contemplating say in a couple of years time what path do you think will best serve your long term interests. But at the same time wouldn't blame you for digging in your own heels

[Dave D]

Thats whats really bizarre.  We left on great terms last month after the walkthrough. Hell I gave the prick over 500 bucks worth off yard tools and a husky tool box. I went over there a few times to check the mail for late deliveries.  Which I asked permission to do and he was like 'sure, anytime. '

Now he doesn't even want me going over to check the mail.

Weird, something changed. I don't know what. I guess my only concern is future rentals may require a reference and there's a 3 year gap where I lived there and can't depend on this limp dick. Despite having been a good renter.

I used to own my own house in PDX but sold it just before the pandemic and have been renting ever since. Ill never buy property in Portland again. Place is turning into a shithole haven for homeless drug addicts, femnazi's, self loathing whites and whacky tree hugging, liberal hippie fucks. Can't wait to move out of this fucking state.

Beak if having this landlord as a reference was a real concern you would have have paid him the asking price for the remote after the second request. At this point you’re not going to use him as a reference, when asked just say you slept in a tent during the pandemic, because you lost your job, until you got back on your feet. That is a much more believable story than I was a good tenant but a month after I moved out I got into a fight with the landlord over a lost garage door opener.

[beakdoctor]

2)The second possible factor is more speculative , but there may be some conscious minor level of resentment that has recently set in based on you being able to lock in your rent for 3 years during which time presumably rents increased,thus representing lost income for them in their eyes. This realisation may have only recently crystallized as they are no doubt in the process of working out what they may be able to charge the next renters based on the current market

These everday injustice matters, relatively minor as they are, eat at you I get it 100% ,but it may be worth taking the hit on this given your thoughts on future rental referrals

Thanks for the insight. I already know what the price increase is. 800 bucks. From 22 a month to 3 grand. At the end of 3 yrs I was planning on renewing and expecting a reasonable rate increase. I wasn't expecting 800 dollar rate increase. Given that's what they believe they should've been getting for the last year or two I'd guess there is some resentment there.

Beak if having this landlord as a reference was a real concern you would have have paid him the asking price for the remote after the second request. At this point you’re not going to use him as a reference, when asked just say you slept in a tent during the pandemic, because you lost your job, until you got back on your feet. That is a much more believable story than I was a good tenant but a month after I moved out I got into a fight with the landlord over a lost garage door opener.

You know, I  didn't even think about it at the time. It's something my wife mentioned to me only after the bridge was burned. And you're correct: I'm really not that concerned about the reference.

[Dave D]

Thanks for the insight. I already know what the price increase is. 800 bucks. From 22 a month to 3 grand. At the end of 3 yrs I was planning on renewing and expecting a reasonable rate increase. I wasn't expecting 800 dollar rate increase. Given that's what they believe they should've been getting for the last year or two I'd guess there is some resentment there.


You know, I  didn't even think about it at the time. It's something my wife mentioned to me only after the bridge was burned. And you're correct: I'm really not that concerned about the reference.

They have resentment towards you because you paid the agreed rent? Imagine how upset they’ll be when they get a “regular” tenant that won’t care about the property and beat the crap out of it. The extra $800 a month will seem like a curse.

[wes]

If the new remote cost $12.50,and this dickhead asked me for $150.00......I`d tell him to get fucked.

I don`t let anyone hustle me.....fuck the dumb shit!

[Hulkotron]

Guy is a fucking putz. Even his wife has referred to him as an idiot. So im ok with being cool about it but im not going to be a punk about it. After 3 years I asked to get out 3 weeks early because I found a great deal on a new place that i didn't want to lose.  NOPE. Ok. What if I forfeit the security deposit? Security deposit was a full months rent so its actually MORE than the pro rated 3 weeks? OK.

 Now this a month after moving out.

pics?

[Mayday]

The landlord is in the right.

The tennant’s answer of ‘had I known I would have made a greater effort to find it’ is interesting. The easiest solution was to buy replacement remotes beforehand and program them but instead the person implies they couldn’t be bothered because it’s $20 and the landlord can do that.

On the flip side the land lord should be prepared and have a bunch of keys and garage openers as backup for the place because that stuff always gets lost. I paid US$18 for my extra garage remotes and that’s for my castle so US250 to replace (with service fee) is pretty mental. A handyman could do it cheap.

[Rambone]

pics?

Who, Stephanie? She’s hotter than Dutch love

[Irongrip400]

I made my opinion known earlier in regards to the opener. Also, this is why you don’t do nice things for people like leave tools behinds etc. It got you nothing being nice in this situation. I’ve been burned too many times and am too jaded to do shit like that because it’ll never mean shit to some asshole.

[Never1AShow]

I made my opinion known earlier in regards to the opener. Also, this is why you don’t do nice things for people like leave tools behinds etc. It got you nothing being nice in this situation. I’ve been burned too many times and am too jaded to do shit like that because it’ll never mean shit to some asshole.

But that's just it, the guy wasn't an asshole even BD seemed to confirm this, something changed.  Were you dealing with the property mostly through the guy's wife?  Is there something there?  Seems strange the wife would be telling you her husband is an idiot.

[beakdoctor]

But that's just it, the guy wasn't an asshole even BD seemed to confirm this, something changed.  Were you dealing with the property mostly through the guy's wife?  Is there something there?  Seems strange the wife would be telling you her husband is an idiot.

Other than send in rent payment every month I had very little interaction with either one. Maybe spoke to them 3 times in 3 years. She and my wife spoke more often, got along pretty good so they had a bit of a rapport.

Iron Grip- I hear you. I was thinking about that very notion earlier today. It seems as though people in general are becoming less intelligent.  More self centered. More full of shit. Less trustworthy. I don't know when it happened or how it happened but it seems people,  generally speaking,  used to be more good natured....people are just so self absorbe today. I think it has to do with their online lives, their obsession with social media. They're all the star of their very own live t.v. show. Just no compromise,  no self reflection,  no humility, only out for themselves. I mean look at Bhanks,  perfect example but in the 20 to 40 year old age brackets those types are the rule and not exception.

[nzmusclemonster]

You stuffed up and $200 will make it go away.

Is this really up for debate?

You must live in poverty if this is a difficult decision.