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Courtroom Cameras
« on: April 02, 2023, 02:35:02 PM »
Court appearances typically take place in a courtroom without cameras in New York state. In this case, will acting New York Supreme Court Judge Juan Merchan allow cameras? Secondly, do you think Judge Merchan should or should not allow the procedure to be recorded on film?

Trump’s arraignment is likely to be a spectacle with a show of law enforcement and with the former president already fanning the flames on social media with his views on Merchan and his indictment. Trump famously puts his own spin on pretty much everything he does or that is done to and for him.

Personally, I think the judge should allow or insist on Trump's proceedings next Tuesday to be recorded. No matter what someone's position on Trump's indictment as subsequent arraignment is, it is a historic event which the public should be able to witness. I prefer to hear the charges against Trump when they are presented, not via the left or right leaning media who will put their own spin on them. Or from Trump who we all know will spin this his way.

This is an unofficial Getbig poll: cameras or no cameras?

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Re: Courtroom Cameras
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2023, 03:11:51 PM »
I wonder if Joe recorded his shower rape of Ashley?

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Re: Courtroom Cameras
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2023, 11:21:32 AM »
I wonder if Joe recorded his shower rape of Ashley?
                         What I'd like to see right now in this date in history is both of these two miscreants {Trump, Biden} strapped into a lie detector test for a couple of hours and let the AMERICAN people ask them questions. I wonder which one would fare better in this inquisition. any guesses.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2023, 12:00:17 PM »
                         What I'd like to see right now in this date in history is both of these two miscreants {Trump, Biden} strapped into a lie detector test for a couple of hours and let the AMERICAN people ask them questions. I wonder which one would fare better in this inquisition. any guesses.

Joe, because his mind is so gone he probably thinks he is telling the truth.

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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2023, 01:16:09 PM »
Joe, because his mind is so gone he probably thinks he is telling the truth.
    that's what I thought too. that and trump is a more prolific liar as opposed to Biden who might just be dense..
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2023, 01:20:17 PM »
Joe, because his mind is so gone he probably thinks he is telling the truth.

He has spent his entire adult life lying to the public.  People with dementia typically become unfiltered authentic versions of who they really are.  So in that sense, I think he knows he is lying.   

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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2023, 01:21:48 PM »
    that's what I thought too. that and trump is a more prolific liar as opposed to Biden who might just be dense..

He is dense, but also a pathological liar.


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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2023, 02:19:27 PM »
                         What I'd like to see right now in this date in history is both of these two miscreants {Trump, Biden} strapped into a lie detector test for a couple of hours and let the AMERICAN people ask them questions. I wonder which one would fare better in this inquisition. any guesses.

There are three types of questions on polygraph tests (Computer Voice Stress Analyzer); relevant questions, irrelevant questions, and control questions. The CVSA test measures stress levels to detect if someone is lying. Mental illness will likely cause a polygraph test result to be inaccurate. Some folks believe that lie detector tests have no scientific basis at all: it's a complete fraud used to scare admissions/confessions out of naïve and gullible persons. Neither Biden nor Trump are naïve or gullible. A stutter may or may not throw off the results of a CVSA.

Things to consider:

Trump is a better liar than Biden. Trump is mentally ill.
Biden stutters which could be a problem because it disrupts his speech pattern. 

My conclusion is that it would be a tossup who fared best.

Do you have any thoughts about the courtroom camera? Trump's lawyers requested that they not be allowed. Hmm… wonder why?

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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2023, 02:22:35 PM »
He has spent his entire adult life lying to the public.  People with dementia typically become unfiltered authentic versions of who they really are.  So in that sense, I think he knows he is lying.

Trump is also a lifetime liar which apparently does not bother you. Interesting how one person's dishonesty is okay by you but another's is not. 

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Re: Courtroom Cameras
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2023, 02:25:12 PM »
There are three types of questions on polygraph tests (Computer Voice Stress Analyzer); relevant questions, irrelevant questions, and control questions. The CVSA test measures stress levels to detect if someone is lying. Mental illness will likely cause a polygraph test result to be inaccurate. Some folks believe that lie detector tests have no scientific basis at all: it's a complete fraud used to scare admissions/confessions out of naïve and gullible persons. Neither Biden nor Trump are naïve or gullible. A stutter may or may not throw off the results of a CVSA.

Things to consider:

Trump is a better liar than Biden. Trump is mentally ill.
Biden stutters which could be a problem because it disrupts his speech pattern. 

My conclusion is that it would be a tossup who fared best.

Do you have any thoughts about the courtroom camera? Trump's lawyers requested that they not be allowed. Hmm… wonder why?


You completely forgot to mention Joe's Mental Illness- Dementia
He hasn't got a Clue what he's saying or doing most of the time.
Plus the nonstop inventing new words .
The Lie Detection machine wouldn't stand a Chance.

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Re: Courtroom Cameras
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2023, 02:35:06 PM »
Trump is also a lifetime liar which apparently does not bother you. Interesting how one person's dishonesty is okay by you but another's is not.

Trump and Biden are not in the same universe when it comes to lying.  What I have a problem with is people (the media, you liberals/progressives, etc.) completely ignoring Biden's fifty years of lying to the public, as a public servant. 

Take, for example, the Washington Post (?) who purported to track every lie Trump told and came up with some absurd figure of over 10,000, which the media and people like you dutifully repeated.  When Biden was elected, they shut down their lie detector.  Because the left is full of hypocrites.

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Re: Courtroom Cameras
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2023, 02:49:33 PM »

You completely forgot to mention Joe's Mental Illness- Dementia
He hasn't got a Clue what he's saying or doing most of the time.
Plus the nonstop inventing new words .
The Lie Detection machine wouldn't stand a Chance.

I forgot nothing. There is no proof Joe Biden has Dementia. But if he did, dementia is not considered a mental illness, it is a condition of the brain. You are right though, a CVSA "wouldn't stand a chance." of functioning correctly.

Among several other mental conditions, Trump suffers from narcissistic personality disorder which is classified as a mental illness.

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Re: Courtroom Cameras
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2023, 03:36:34 PM »
I forgot nothing. There is no proof Joe Biden has Dementia. But if he did, dementia is not considered a mental illness, it is a condition of the brain. You are right though, a CVSA "wouldn't stand a chance." of functioning correctly.

Among several other mental conditions, Trump suffers from narcissistic personality disorder which is classified as a mental illness.

Well my Dad has Dementia & I'd say its a mental illness & he sure isn't functioning mentally any where
Near as he was 1 year ago.
If you wish to ignore Pervy Pedo Joe declining functioning mentally that up to you.
Jeez he can't be left to walk by himself as he wanders off / has to have god knows what kind of meds
To keep him even slightly cognitive - hell just look at him talking he looks like a wax work dummy
No expressions / blank staring eyes / endless gaffs & mispronounced words & sentences,
Yeah sure he's 100 % Cognitive - And if you really do believe he is - then no wonder you believed & believe
All the lies & Propaganda about China virus restrictions & MRNA T.E.Vaccine.

And Joe pant shitter doesn't have Narcissist personality disorder then  ??
Oh no Pervy Joe's a perfect Saint 😇  isn't he.

P.ease Prime stop being so obtuse all the time.

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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2023, 07:00:30 PM »
Well my Dad has Dementia & I'd say its a mental illness & he sure isn't functioning mentally any where
Near as he was 1 year ago.
If you wish to ignore Pervy Pedo Joe declining functioning mentally that up to you.
Jeez he can't be left to walk by himself as he wanders off / has to have god knows what kind of meds
To keep him even slightly cognitive - hell just look at him talking he looks like a wax work dummy
No expressions / blank staring eyes / endless gaffs & mispronounced words & sentences,
Yeah sure he's 100 % Cognitive - And if you really do believe he is - then no wonder you believed & believe
All the lies & Propaganda about China virus restrictions & MRNA T.E.Vaccine.

And Joe pant shitter doesn't have Narcissist personality disorder then  ??
Oh no Pervy Joe's a perfect Saint 😇  isn't he.

P.ease Prime stop being so obtuse all the time.

I like being obtuse as in insensitive and thickheaded. It keeps people from taking advantage of me and in my old age (nearly 79 years now) you never know when I might develop dementia which would make me vulnerable to all kinds of bad stuff.  ;D

You are welcome to say that dementia is a mental illness if your like. It is technically considered a mental disorder. Disorder and illness might seem like the same thing but there are notable differences. A mental disorder shares the same qualities as a mental illness but is used in reference to the Mental Health Act to describe the symptoms a person has. A mental disorder poses a serious danger to the person's own, or others’ health and safety, or seriously diminishes the capacity of that person to care for themselves. I think most of us know people who are nuts but have no problem taking care of themselves.

Sorry about your dad, this must be hard for you. Nobody likes witnessing their parents become helpless and needy. When my mom was dying from emphysema, she developed dementia due to oxygen deprivation. When she was young and healthy, she was sort of nuts and she was formidable. Did you know that mental disorders early in life increase the risk for dementia and for developing dementia at a younger age? My point is it is possible to be both mentally ill and have dementia.

Dementia is an umbrella term used to describe a range of neurological conditions affecting the brain that worsen over time. It is the loss of the ability to think, remember, and reason to levels that affect daily life and activities. Mentally ill people can, and some do get better over time. Dementia is progressive. Folks don't get over it. It doesn't go away; it just keeps getting worse.

My sister-in-law developed Lewy Body dementia when she was in her 70's. She went from being sharp as a tack and physically very active to needing a walker and later a wheelchair. She eventually began hallucinating. Protein deposits, called Lewy bodies, develop in nerve cells in the brain regions involved in thinking, memory, and movement (motor control). So, as you can see, LBD has a physical cause but can seem like a mental illness. The difference between the two is a fine line which is nuanced.

I believe we were talking about mental illness (nuts) verses mental disorders (dementia). Loss of cognitive function is a disorder. Joe could very well be losing cognitive abilities, but it does not mean he is nuts. He could also have narcissistic personality disorder, but compared to Trump it is clearly underdeveloped... which is a good thing.

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Re: Courtroom Cameras
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2023, 08:47:45 PM »
                         What I'd like to see right now in this date in history is both of these two miscreants {Trump, Biden} strapped into a lie detector test for a couple of hours and let the AMERICAN people ask them questions. I wonder which one would fare better in this inquisition. any guesses.

I have no idea WTF you have against Mr. Trump and America and real Americans and yet you kiss up to Dems here with alarming frequency.  Really.  WTF?  You have no freaking clue as to what really goes on and near as I can tell you support Democrats and their policies.

When you stick to things you are good at like old films and bodybuilding, you know what you are doing but when you incessantly suck up and off the Democratic party it gives one pause.  You cannot play both sides, either you are for America and her true Allies are you are for the child mutilators and pedophiles.   Which is it funk?   

I think you are for the greater part a nice guy but again:  WTF? And no, you do not have to answer me.  I need only check your threads against Mr. Trump and real Americans.  Just because you put Biden in this thread doesn't mean shit in the real world.  You project an image of hating our Nation, Mr. Trump and Americans. 

Fuck YOUR Noise against Mr. Trump and America.  Dammit, WTF Funk? I am not alone in my disgust with the bullshit you posit here.  WTF funk?

And all that voted Democrat?  You are definitely supporters of child mutilators and pedophilia.  How the fuck do you sleep at all?

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Re: Courtroom Cameras
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2023, 09:22:40 PM »
This Alvin Bragg fella ain't too bright and didn't have a reputation to ruin. Other DA have seen all the evidence and declined to charge, it's just that Alvin is that corrupt and puppeted by Soros $$$.

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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2023, 10:41:03 PM »
I have no idea WTF you have against Mr. Trump and America and real Americans and yet you kiss up to Dems here with alarming frequency.  Really.  WTF?  You have no freaking clue as to what really goes on and near as I can tell you support Democrats and their policies.

When you stick to things you are good at like old films and bodybuilding, you know what you are doing but when you incessantly suck up and off the Democratic party it gives one pause.  You cannot play both sides, either you are for America and her true Allies are you are for the child mutilators and pedophiles.   Which is it funk?   

I think you are for the greater part a nice guy but again:  WTF? And no, you do not have to answer me.  I need only check your threads against Mr. Trump and real Americans.  Just because you put Biden in this thread doesn't mean shit in the real world.  You project an image of hating our Nation, Mr. Trump and Americans. 

Fuck YOUR Noise against Mr. Trump and America.  Dammit, WTF Funk? I am not alone in my disgust with the bullshit you posit here.  WTF funk?

And all that voted Democrat?  You are definitely supporters of child mutilators and pedophilia.  How the fuck do you sleep at all?

I just don't get why a few on here hate America & Americans themselves included so much ,
Surely everyone would want their country to be self sufficient & Great.

If they so dislike America why not go to another country thats more suited to them.
Just a thought.

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Re: Courtroom Cameras
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2023, 11:40:56 AM »
  Donald Trump Arrested, Awaiting Arraignment Amid Investigation Into Stormy Daniels ‘Hush Money’ Scheme
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Donald Trump Arrested, Awaiting Arraignment Amid Investigation Into Stormy Daniels ‘Hush Money’ Scheme
Donald Trump Arrested, Awaiting Arraignment Amid Investigation Into Stormy Daniels ‘Hush Money’ Scheme
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Donald Trump has been arrested, as New York law enforcement continues its extended investigation into the former president’s involvement in a “hush money” scheme with adult film actress Stormy Daniels. Although he will not be handcuffed, take a mug shot or be given a perp walk, he was effectively arrested when he surrendered to the court.

The April 4 arraignment is about to take place in a Lower Manhattan courtroom. Trump was spotted leaving Trump Tower in Manhattan around 1:10 pm EST and then drove downtown in a large motorcade. On the walk from Trump Tower to his vehicle, Trump held his fist up and also waved. He also addressed the crowd in the same way when walking from the vehicle to the courthouse.

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On the way to the arraignment, which is scheduled for 2:15 pm EST, Trump took to his social media website, Truth Social, to write, “Heading to Lower Manhattan, the Courthouse. Seems so SURREAL — WOW, they are going to ARREST ME. Can’t believe this is happening in America. MAGA!”

NEW YORK, NEW YORK – APRIL 04: Former U.S. President Donald Trump pumps his fist as he departs Trump Tower for his arraignment on April 04, 2023 in New York, New York. Trump will be arraigned during his first court appearance today following an indictment by a grand jury that heard evidence about money paid to adult film star Stormy Daniels before the 2016 presidential election. With the indictment, Trump becomes the first former U.S. president in history to be charged with a criminal offense. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NEW YORK – APRIL 04: Former U.S. President Donald Trump pumps his fist as he departs Trump Tower for his arraignment on April 04, 2023 in New York, New York. Trump will be arraigned during his first court appearance today following an indictment by a grand jury that heard evidence about money paid to adult film star Stormy Daniels before the 2016 presidential election. With the indictment, Trump becomes the first former U.S. president in history to be charged with a criminal offense. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
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On March 18, Trump publicly declared that he believed his arrest to be imminent. The arrest comes as Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg continues to look into Trump’s involvement in paying adult film star Stormy Daniels a sum of $130,000 to stay silent and remain private about their alleged 2006 affair.
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