reasonable sources list

[Agnostic007]

It occurred to me that in this political section of Getbig it is common for some of us to post links to support a position. Most often the sources are immediately dismissed offhand and therefore useless. Either the source is deemed far right or far left. Ok, there are two charts out there that show bias among news sources. What if we agreed to only post news sources from either the Center of the All Sides chart or the Most Reliable section of the Ad Fontes chart or a combination of both. Unless a source appears in either section, it's not to be used.

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/media-literacy/2021/should-you-trust-media-bias-charts/

Just a thought.. 

[Agnostic007]

Here is a bias chart on Fact Checks

https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/fact-check-bias-chart

[illuminati]

It occurred to me that in this political section of Getbig it is common for some of us to post links to support a position. Most often the sources are immediately dismissed offhand and therefore useless. Either the source is deemed far right or far left. Ok, there are two charts out there that show bias among news sources. What if we agreed to only post news sources from either the Center of the All Sides chart or the Most Reliable section of the Ad Fontes chart or a combination of both. Unless a source appears in either section, it's not to be used.

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/media-literacy/2021/should-you-trust-media-bias-charts/

Just a thought..

Houston we have a problem BBC & Reuter's are both heavily left bias.
Let alone how much BBC censor what news it puts out.

[Agnostic007]

Houston we have a problem BBC & Reuter's are both heavily left bias.
Let alone how much BBC censor what news it puts out.

I think we can all agree we will never completely agree because of our biases. Neither of those are far left in my opinion and I'm surprised you feel that way but that is your opinion, and that's cool. That's why I am proposing using either or both generally acknowledged charts as the standard. From reading about them, while they may not be perfect, a lot of effort was put into them to make them as accurate as possible.

As far as the BBC, at least one, maybe both of the charts only rate US political news. So while you may be correct about censoring, it appears their reporting on US political news falls within the center category. If we don't come up with some criteria, we'll just keep seeing a lot of Gateway Pundit and Breitbart links that I hope we can agree are pretty far right leaning.

[illuminati]

I think we can all agree we will never completely agree because of our biases. Neither of those are far left in my opinion and I'm surprised you feel that way but that is your opinion, and that's cool. That's why I am proposing using either or both generally acknowledged charts as the standard. From reading about them, while they may not be perfect, a lot of effort was put into them to make them as accurate as possible.

As far as the BBC, at least one, maybe both of the charts only rate US political news. So while you may be correct about censoring, it appears their reporting on US political news falls within the center category. If we don't come up with some criteria, we'll just keep seeing a lot of Gateway Pundit and Breitbart links that I hope we can agree are pretty far right leaning.

BBC in UK are totally Leftist that's not up for debate.
There as bad as Gateway/ Breitbart - They're a joke.

As for reuters , they're leftist bias though not as extreme as BBC.

Finding decent honest Truthful & Factual news on any MSM is almost impossible,
Thats the state of MSM 'Journalism'.

[Dos Equis]

It occurred to me that in this political section of Getbig it is common for some of us to post links to support a position. Most often the sources are immediately dismissed offhand and therefore useless. Either the source is deemed far right or far left. Ok, there are two charts out there that show bias among news sources. What if we agreed to only post news sources from either the Center of the All Sides chart or the Most Reliable section of the Ad Fontes chart or a combination of both. Unless a source appears in either section, it's not to be used.

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/media-literacy/2021/should-you-trust-media-bias-charts/

Just a thought..

We don't need charts to determine where to get news.  Especially when the chart is wrong, like identifying NPR as "center."  And people who confine themselves certain news sources are less informed.  It's actually better to check sources from all sides. 

[Agnostic007]

We don't need charts to determine where to get news.  Especially when the chart is wrong, like identifying NPR as "center."  And people who confine themselves certain news sources are less informed.  It's actually better to check sources from all sides.

kind of missed the point. It wasn't about getting news from various sources although getting news from extreme left or right is a bad idea. It was about coming to agreement on acceptable sources on both sides to use here.

[Dos Equis]

kind of missed the point. It wasn't about getting news from various sources although getting news from extreme left or right is a bad idea. It was about coming to agreement on acceptable sources on both sides to use here.

I get your point.  I'm disagreeing with your point.  No, we don't need to agree on where we get our news. 

[Agnostic007]

I get your point.  I'm disagreeing with your point.  No, we don't need to agree on where we get our news.

It was just a thought... that for the purposes of debates on THIS forum, we have a list of sources that are reasonably center and accurate. Otherwise there is literally no point in posting a link to a source as it will just be dismissed as "fake news"

So, business as usual...

[Dos Equis]

It was just a thought... that for the purposes of debates on THIS forum, we have a list of sources that are reasonably center and accurate. Otherwise there is literally no point in posting a link to a source as it will just be dismissed as "fake news"

So, business as usual...

There is no guarantee that a "center" news source (whatever that means) is any more or less accurate than news from the "left" or "right."  Accuracy matters, but all you have to do is read your source, do your own homework, and use your common sense. 

Dismissing something as "fake news" based solely on the source, left or right, without looking at the facts and context, is ignorant. 

[Grape Ape]

NPR is liberal, and I'm deducing that from multiple sources.

I like Breaking Points with Krystal and Sagar - one righty, one lefty, both give their views on a story.  Sometimes middle ground is found, always respectful, although Krystal can sometimes be a dink.

I trust Matt Tabbai, Bari Weiss, and Greenwald.

The only biased site I check in with occasionally is the Daily Wire, but I can generally identify the truth parts from the biased.

[chaos]

Guess this thread backfired.

[SOMEPARTS]

Neither of those are far left in my opinion

Then again, not much is. Been to Target lately? 

[Agnostic007]

Guess this thread backfired.

I suppose it did. I attempted to broker some common ground. That just aint happening on this forum

[illuminati]

I suppose it did. I attempted to broker some common ground. That just aint happening on this forum

It does happen on here sometimes when both sides stand back & reel their necks
in somewhat, It appears many do not want to take a back step or admit who /what
they support is wrong.,which often it blatantly is.

[The Gov]

we all saw and laughed at this list  2 years ago.

The first place to start would be removing the complete perverted imbecile troll known as lurkingForBoys and his many gimmicks.

[chaos]

I suppose it did. I attempted to broker some common ground. That just aint happening on this forum

Common ground would require the acknowledgement that the media narrative is to stretch the truth or outright lie to push their agenda. It would also require people to communicate with each other with their opinions without providing a link to a bias source.

[Agnostic007]

It does happen on here sometimes when both sides stand back & reel their necks
in somewhat, It appears many do not want to take a back step or admit who /what
they support is wrong.,which often it blatantly is.

true

[SOMEPARTS]

It does happen on here sometimes when both sides stand back & reel their necks
in somewhat, It appears many do not want to take a back step or admit who /what
they support is wrong.,which often it blatantly is.

We know who has the most reeling to do. The left is as radically dogmatic as any nutso religion.

[Agnostic007]

We know who has the most reeling to do. The left is as radically dogmatic as any nutso religion.

"We" obviously depends on who's talking. In your case "We" are right wing conservatives. If Someone else was saying that same thing, it would be "right" instead of "left". So it really says nothing. It's a dog whistle.

[Grape Ape]

I suppose it did. I attempted to broker some common ground. That just aint happening on this forum

I tried to list some sources.

[Coach is Back!]

90% of the so called "fact checkers" have been debunked are proven frauds. Zuckerberg said himself that his "fact checkers" are mostly based on the checkers opinion's and again, any disinformation is usually "opinion" We don't Media Bias sites to tell us which ones are bullshit. History already proves that. I haven't paid much attention to Fox since 2020 and completely stopped watching since Carlson left, that being said, they are reliable on most events compared to the others. If I post a source it's usually because they didn't run with every bullshit narrative that either within a few day, weeks or months of a story, it's debunked.

That being said, It was Fox that called bullshit on the fake Russian collusion and were right as were other conservative outlets that didn't buy into it. Media is about 90% liberal anyway

[SOMEPARTS]

"We" obviously depends on who's talking. In your case "We" are right wing conservatives. If Someone else was saying that same thing, it would be "right" instead of "left". So it really says nothing. It's a dog whistle.

Not really. Both parties have moved left. Neither of them are really doing anything for middle aged white men that pay taxes, neither will stop spending...but one is absolutely nuts when it comes to social issues.

Most people here under say 35(citizen or not) would sign off for China to take us over if they got a check in the mail for 5 grand. People are too stupid and lazy to be "conservative". Eventually we will age out and all that will be left is people that think lockdowns and minimum basic income is normal. They own nothing and be happy like the plan says...all while waiting for the rolling blackouts to end so they can warm up their cricket burgers.